Patent: 50-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO for EF-S & EF-M

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<p>That patent train continues for EF-M lens optical formulas, this time we see a 50-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO lens for APS-C sized sensors. This optical formula patent shows the lens for both EF-M and EF-S mounts. It’s definitely interesting to see diffractive optics development for consumer grade cameras.</p>
<p>Patent Publication No. 2016-57444 (Google Translated)</p>
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<li>Published 2016.4.21</li>
<li>Filing date 2014.9.9</li>
</ul>
<p>Example 1</p>
<ul>
<li>Zoom ratio 5.59</li>
<li>Focal length 51.77 135.00 289.53</li>
<li>F-number 4.65 5.05 5.85</li>
<li>Half angle of view (degrees) 14.78 5.78 2.70</li>
<li>Image height 13.66 13.66 13.66</li>
<li>The total lens length 126.05 169.37 184.15</li>
<li>BF 35.50 35.50 35.50</li>
</ul>
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<p>Example 2</p>
<ul>
<li>Zoom ratio 5.90</li>
<li>Focal length 49.13 135.00 290.00</li>
<li>F-number 4.65 4.95 5.85</li>
<li>Half angle of view (degrees) 15.54 5.78 2.70</li>
<li>Image height 13.66 13.66 13.66</li>
<li>The total lens length 108.00 152.12 168.00</li>
<li>BF 15.69 15.69 15.69</li>
</ul>
<p>We have yet to see any full frame optical formulas for a full frame mirrorless camera body. We don’t find this surprising as we expect any such camera be compatible with EF lenses.</p>
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Re: Patent: 50-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO for EF-S & EF-M

On a APC body, that would be equivalent to 80-480. nice range. Now to learn about the optical quality.
 
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Canon already has an optically sound EF-S 55-250 mm (equiv. 88-400 mm) f/4-5.6 IS STM lens which weighs a mere 375 g and priced affordably at US$299

Not sure what the DO lens brings to the table. Maybe slightly reduced weight? But it won't come cheap...
 
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Woody said:
Canon already has an optically sound EF-S 55-250 mm (equiv. 88-400 mm) f/4-5.6 IS STM lens which weighs a mere 375 g and priced affordably at US$299

Not sure what the DO lens brings to the table. Maybe slightly reduced weight? But it won't come cheap...

DO doesn't necessarily mean lighter, but does mean shorter. Despite being slightly wider and adding 50mm at the long end, the EF-S 50-300 DO would be ~1" shorter retracted and ~1.5" shorter fully extended, compared to the EF-S 55-250 STM.
 
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Getting very excited about the M. Can 2016 be the year of the M?

This lens patent just adds to it...
 
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not interested. price likely to be a multiple of EF-M 55-200 ... not worth it for me for a crop tele-zoom.

I would be interested in an *ultracompact* EF-M 85/2.4 STM IS DO though ... if it is optically as good as 22/2.0 and similarly affordable [meaning < 500].
 
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Could be fun. At least its becoming very, very clear that there will be no FF mirrorless from Canon this year.

I think it is also clear that Canon is prioritizing size first and foremost.
 
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nads said:
Could be fun. At least its becoming very, very clear that there will be no FF mirrorless from Canon this year.

I think it is also clear that Canon is prioritizing size first and foremost.

Agreed.

Not sure why there are rumors that Canon is going to release mirrorless FF soon...
 
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Woody said:
nads said:
Could be fun. At least its becoming very, very clear that there will be no FF mirrorless from Canon this year.

I think it is also clear that Canon is prioritizing size first and foremost.

Agreed.

Not sure why there are rumors that Canon is going to release mirrorless FF soon...

The rumor post recently of 2 Mirrorless bodies this year, one possibly being FF didn't help. With the picture becoming clear that fast optics are going to be DSLR territory and small is going to be mirrorless territory, anybody thinking FF is on the way isn't understanding Canon's desire to sustain their very profitable DSLR and EOS ecosystem.
 
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I believe the Chinese consider 2016 as a year of the monkey. But for Canon shooters it looks to be shaping up as the year of Canon throwing the monkeys off it's back:
- Headphone jack on mid-tier body - check
- Better low ISO DR- check
- DPAF on full frame - check
- Touchscreen on full frame - check

There are still plenty of things on the to-do list, but at least we are moving in the right direction.
 
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StudentOfLight said:
- DPAF on full frame - check

don't rate this too highly. So far, Canon DP-AF is not delivering the promised goods. Hybrid CD-AF + on-sensor PD-AF gets better [Live View/mirrorless] AF performance. DP-AF looks way overhyped to me.
 
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AvTvM said:
StudentOfLight said:
- DPAF on full frame - check

don't rate this too highly. So far, Canon DP-AF is not delivering the promised goods. Hybrid CD-AF + on-sensor PD-AF gets better [Live View/mirrorless] AF performance. DP-AF looks way overhyped to me.

My segment where I test this says otherwise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-vkwzq2E3M

The video tracking by the 80D is actually very, very good.
 
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