Patent: Canon EF 28-560mm f/2.8-5.6

TeT said:
I don't know... I really like my all purpose zooms to be 24mm on the wide end...

If the 24-105L is a mess at 24mm, imagine what 24-560 would be! :o

But I hear you. I'd be changing out a 28-something zoom so much more often than a 24-something zoom. Just a few millimeters, but it's tremendously useful. One has to wonder if that trend will continue... 20-70mm f/2.8L, anyone?

- A
 
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ahsanford said:
unfocused said:
j-nord said:
...Are they really going to produce competitive IQ with that zoom ratio for under $2k?

No.

J-nord, again, refer to my prior meme with Obi-Wan. The under-$2k long supertele we expect to see will be in the vein of the Nikon 200-500 f/5.6 VR for the amateur wildlife/birding crowd. Many threads have beaten up how Canon might do this, and the math and the money just gets thorny:

  • Zooming up to 600mm coupled with Canon's insistence on f/5.6 at the slowest (for the EF mount) kind of blows up the low-cost + front-filterable option. 600 / 5.6 = a very large entrance pupil.

  • Only going up to 500mm like Nikon did (wise for cost + filterability) may be passed over by the market for the three Tamron and Sigma 150-600mm options.


  • Given the cost of the 100-400L II, it's hard to see a 200-500 f/5.6L IS coming in under $2k, and I'm not convinced Canon will pull the L moniker off of the product and go plasticky/STM to keep it cheap. So I see more of a $3k lens than a $2k lens here. (I'm still waiting for proper reviews of the 200-500 Nikon to see what corners the designers cut to get that down to $1,400 -- at present, it seems like they are practically giving the lens away at cost to land-grab amateur birders all in a tizzy about the D500 :P).

- A
It was a rhetorical question :P It seems highly unlikely they'd make a FF lens with this spec regardless of price or performance.

p.s. I posted before your meme 8)
 
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Besisika said:
East Wind Photography said:
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If it makes it to production, i hope its L standard.
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And then everybody will be intimidated when you point that thing at them.
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Snipped quotes for brevity.
I too was buy one of these - if the IQ was good enough across the whole range.

I would expect people to be intimidated if you're pointing a Canon at them with the intention of shooting. ::) :P
 
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KeithBreazeal said:
Well, this is going to totally suck. I'll only need one lens/body on the black rapid. I'll need a 20 pound block of lead attached to the other strap for balance. Need to start the wight training program again.

You could carry it low and directly in the front as subliminal suggestion. ;)
 
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CanonFanBoy said:
KeithBreazeal said:
Well, this is going to totally suck. I'll only need one lens/body on the black rapid. I'll need a 20 pound block of lead attached to the other strap for balance. Need to start the wight training program again.

You could carry it low and directly in the front as subliminal suggestion. ;)

LOL! Is that a Canon or are you happy to see me?
 
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GMCPhotographics said:
The objective lens is going to be quite large, minimum 96mm in diameter. So it's unlikely to be a cheap lens. The other thing that struck me was....why the odd focal length...560mm??? Where did that come from?

400mm with a 1.4 extender is 560mm, not sure if that has any effect, but it's a prominently used focal length for that reason. If this doesn't have a built in extender, which it looks like it doesn't have one, I'm guessing it was a compromise for size reasons. 560 / 5.6 = 100, might have to do with the objective lens diameter, but I'm not too well versed in lens design.
 
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Interestingly all four working examples describe the same type of lens.
The aberration graphs are not as abysmal as one might expect. At 300 mm in total length this is fairly comparable to the other super telephoto zooms already on the market.
There is also at least a superficial resemblance to the Tamron 16-300 mm APSC lens. This lens may be a stepping stone or derivative design of a Canon cropped superzoom.
 
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slclick said:
Three Lenses for the Portrait-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Studio-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to EF-S,
One for the Dark Lord on his D5,
In the Land of DR where the Shadows lie.
One Lens to rule them all, One Ring USM to find them,
One Lens to bring them all and in the darkness push them
In the Land of Canon where the Red Rings lie.

That right there is pure awesome.
 
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GMCPhotographics said:
The objective lens is going to be quite large, minimum 96mm in diameter. So it's unlikely to be a cheap lens. The other thing that struck me was....why the odd focal length...560mm??? Where did that come from?



560mm is a number Egami made up. The patent specifies 540mm

Check my math, but in WE1, the first element has a thickness of 1.90366 mm with a radius of curvature of 230.39mm and 114.55mm; this would put the diameter at around 60mm.
 
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