wickidwombat said:
Jim Saunders said:
privatebydesign said:
Jim Saunders said:
I expect to see second curtain and wireless zoom in the next generation of Canon flashes.
Jim
I don't, if they were going to introduce those as features then they would have done it with the introduction of the RT system. They chose to go five groups instead of three ( much more useful to me), and built in tranceivers, an industry first.
I agree with you on the rest, make no mistake; I stand by my assertion that zoom and wireless second curtain sync will be in the next flash. That may be due to unresolved technical issues or an interest in having something to set the new flash apart, but I have no doubt it'll show up.
Jim
i've never had any issues with remote second curtain sync with my odins what technical issues are you referring to?
I've only experienced 100% success with these things. I've had less reliability with 580ex 2 flashes in the hotshoe or optically slaved as the 580 exII have this tendency to dump full power blasts randomly which they don't seem to do when going through the odins
Ah the internet and crossed conversations.
I didn't say the Odin had an issue second curtain syncing with your camera and your flash in the old style three group mode, I said Canon probably didn't feel 100% comfortable introducing it in the newer 5 group RT system. I also alluded to any and all third party reverse engineering and work around solutions, not specifically the Odin, lets be honest as far as flash systems go they have a pretty poor record, just look at Pocket Wizard blaming the 580 EX II for their own failings as the best example.
Besides, as you point out in your reply above this one, the Odin solution is not the cheap solution, a 580EX II and an Odin cost more than a 600-EX-RT. So from a price point of view Canon vs Odin becomes a features issue, I value built in manufacturer reliability with five groups and future proofing more than second curtain sync and remote head zooming in a piggybacked old style three group third party solution.
Of course the costs workout differently for people depending on what they have already, but it is all just choices. Quite how Yongnuo expect to sell many YN-600-EX-RT flashes at $400-$450 compared to frequent sales of Canon 600-EX-RT's at $499 I am not quite sure though.
As for being sure the remote zoom and second curtain sync coming in a 610-EX-RT, well I wouldn't say categorically they won't, but even if they did it will, by previous top of the range flash life expectancy, be 5 or 6 years before they do, and as for product differentiation there are a million other things they could do to make the 600 "better" before adopting those two features, besides the lower order flashes are due for makeovers before it is. Electronic control over colour temp would be another groundbreaking first in a Speedlite, zooming to 300mm, not needing a diffuser panel to go super wide, a better implementation of their gel system complete with a good selection of auto setting or chipped gels, smooth detents for angled bounce, I can't be the only one finding the current system inefficient, how about a locking ball type mount you can unlock, position the head and re-lock with one hand? Infinite adjustment and more secure with bigger modifiers. Maybe I should write a white paper for the Canon Speedlite team
