Poll - 1DX Mark II: To Buy Or Not To Buy ...

[MTCWBY]

I just ordered one. I currently shoot a 5DIII for youth sports and weekend's rental of a 7dII last year showed me what even that FPS difference added. I also found my keeper rate went up ~15% with the better autofocus. I really considered the 1DX. Especially after the price drop but decided to wait for the II. I'm not sure I've ever regretted buying camera equipment but there's plenty of shots early on that I wish I had a better camera system. Now I just have to wait.

 

[Loswr]

Most likely will not buy, unless catastrophe befalls my 1D X. Mostly incremental changes (but several of them, and some good ones along with at least one step backward IMO), quite happy with my current camera, and there are so many lenses I have not yet bought...

What is the one step backwards that you see?

Mixed card slots, I'd have preferred dual CFast. Better for those (like me) who write to both for an instant backup.

 

[cervantes]

Most likely will not buy, unless catastrophe befalls my 1D X. Mostly incremental changes (but several of them, and some good ones along with at least one step backward IMO), quite happy with my current camera, and there are so many lenses I have not yet bought...

What is the one step backwards that you see?

Mixed card slots, I'd have preferred dual CFast. Better for those (like me) who write to both for an instant backup.

You can still do that, you'll just be limited to 73 images burst size.

 

[arthurbikemad]

I shoot with a 5D3, have a good few lumps of glass, always wished I had got a 1DX, was going to jump on the UK's 4K price of a new 1DX now, but think this time I will stump up the extra 1K and just get the Mk2 this time, if I get 3-5 years from it, I will be happy.

 

[Rob Carter]

It’s just too big and heavy.

I go back a long way and well remember the weight of a motorised 2¼” quarter square. The popularity of 35 mm was due in a large extent to its light compact shape.

Moving from film to digital did not see a change. When I consider the progress in mobile phones with miniturisation over the years then I would expect to see a similar trend in top end cameras.

 

[Click]

Nope... I'll stick with the 1Dx until round 3.

Same here

 

[R1-7D]

Most likely will not buy, unless catastrophe befalls my 1D X. Mostly incremental changes (but several of them, and some good ones along with at least one step backward IMO), quite happy with my current camera, and there are so many lenses I have not yet bought...

What is the one step backwards that you see?

Mixed card slots, I'd have preferred dual CFast. Better for those (like me) who write to both for an instant backup.

Ahh yes, that makes sense. I agree, a single format would have been better.

Cheers. Thanks for the response.

 

[expatinasia]

I agree, I do think it would have made more sense to have dual CFast slots. Canon, obviously thought differently.

Silly thing, is most people will still need to buy a CFast card just so they can use both slots so the argument that some would save money does not work.

 

[slclick]

I'm still finding new ways to use my 3.5 year old 5d3

 

[Silverman]

Preordered one from the day after announcement after my dealer called and made a nice offer. For the EU it looks like first bodies become available somewhen in April - early May.
So far I am a convinced user of the current 1DX and have no real hurry to upgrade. However - beeing able to use all focus points with the new 1DX II and f8 lens setup exactly fit my needs and a game changer for myself.
If the body works well for me then my current 1DX has to go.
I am still curious about the silent mode of the 1DX II. So far my main reason to work with a 5D III is the silent shutter mode.

 

[eml58]

I'd like to buy one... but at au$9k in Oz I have a hard time justifying it for what I do.

Where did you find an Aus price?

Teds and a couple of other sites are advertising it...although Teds may be a bit optimistic that it will be here in March.

https://www.teds.com.au/canon-eos-1dx-mkii-body

Also Camera House have it for 8999, I Pre Ordered mine from DigiDirect, they have a better price than Camera House, basically I'm paying USD$200 over the B'H price, so works for me (I bought 2 Bodies so I did get a good price).

The interest for me is the 61 AF points @ f/8, allows me to use any focus point when using the Mk III Converters, so for Wildlife this on it's own is worth the upgrade.

Essentially on the Video side your getting the 1Dc with some upgrades.

The C Fast Card, again, worth the upgrade, 16fps & 173 RAW images to fill the Buffer ?? for fast action Cheetah chases, worth the upgrade.

We will wait & see regards any improvement in DR, if there is an improvement that will be a Bonus.

The GPS is also great, saves a tongue, WiFi would be nice, but with the Magnesium Framework, like the Nikon D5, hard ask, so not a big issue for me.

2 x 1Dx Bodies going cheap

 

[kaihp]

I agree, I do think it would have made more sense to have dual CFast slots. Canon, obviously thought differently.

Agree on having identical slots.

Silly thing, is most people will still need to buy a CFast card just so they can use both slots so the argument that some would save money does not work.

Erh, no. Canon is giving you your first* CFast card & a card reader 'for free': In the US through the "Premium Kit" and in Europe if you buy & register before Oct 1st.

*) Is it just me or are they thinking like a drug dealer: "your first shot is free" ;D

 

[Stu_bert]

Preordered one from the day after announcement after my dealer called and made a nice offer. For the EU it looks like first bodies become available somewhen in April - early May.
So far I am a convinced user of the current 1DX and have no real hurry to upgrade. However - beeing able to use all focus points with the new 1DX II and f8 lens setup exactly fit my needs and a game changer for myself.
If the body works well for me then my current 1DX has to go.
I am still curious about the silent mode of the 1DX II. So far my main reason to work with a 5D III is the silent shutter mode.

I read somewhere, perhaps Andy Rouse, where it was mentioned it was still louder that the 5d

 

[danski0224]

I'd kinda like a 200 f/2... can't get both.

The all AF points at f/8 is a big deal, so maybe I'll ponder it some more once the production versions are out.

 

[expatinasia]

I agree, I do think it would have made more sense to have dual CFast slots. Canon, obviously thought differently.

Agree on having identical slots.

Silly thing, is most people will still need to buy a CFast card just so they can use both slots so the argument that some would save money does not work.

Erh, no. Canon is giving you your first* CFast card & a card reader 'for free': In the US through the "Premium Kit" and in Europe if you buy & register before Oct 1st.

*) Is it just me or are they thinking like a drug dealer: "your first shot is free" ;D

There are two options. One is with CFast and a reader the other is without.

I would still be buying the just body one so I can choose the card. I do not need the reader.

 

[Crapking]

While mostly incremental improvements (resolution, ISO, FPS, buffer), the addition of anti-flicker (a totally under-appreciated feature IMHO as it really simplifies PP workflow in high school/college gyms) and multiple f8 AF points, along with the significant video upgrades led me to preorder (as I did with 1Dx). Added the WFT as well, as more and more clients want 'instant' gratification.

 

[kaihp]

There are two options. One is with CFast and a reader the other is without.

Yes, there are two options. But since they are offered at exactly the same price (at least for now) why not take the Premium Kit that includes the CFast card & reader and go?

 

[arbitrage]

The updated AF system and improved high ISO performance look VERY interesting to me and may be enough to make the decision for me.
Unfortunately I don't like the new battery and charger (I believe you can't charge the older batteries on it). I am not happy with how much of the camera's design has been optimised for video - don't even know how to turn mine on after over 2 years! The C Fast slot is a pain and serves no purpose for me so it's a single card camera as far as I am concerned.
To me the 1DX Mk2 has taken quite a few steps backward from the 1DX, however if the ISO and AF are as good as some report then I will forgive them.
Pity they didn't make a stills only version without the new battery, video, C Fast and that silly GPS thingy - I am not a complete wally, I know where I am and don't need a camera to tell me! They won't make it though!

Just to address a couple of your concerns....the old batteries both the 4 and 4n will fully charge in the new charger and can be used in the new camera with a FPS drop to 12FPS from 14. Then new battery will work in the older cameras also. The only limitation is the old charger won't fully charge (or maybe won't charge at all...mixed reports on that) the new battery. Here is an article about that.... http://learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2016/eos1dx_mkii/eos1dx-mkii-battery.shtml

Also it looks like in most markets you will get a free 64GB C-Fast card and reader if you are ordering in the first couple months. I think till June in US and Canada. Every dealer I've looked at has this deal in N. America at least. That is a $270 USD bonus at current B&H prices. Therefore it will turn your camera into a two slot one at no cost. Until you need more cards!!

 

[expatinasia]

Just to address a couple of your concerns....the old batteries both the 4 and 4n will fully charge in the new charger and can be used in the new camera with a FPS drop to 12FPS from 14. Then new battery will work in the older cameras also. The only limitation is the old charger won't fully charge (or maybe won't charge at all...mixed reports on that) the new battery. Here is an article about that.... http://learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2016/eos1dx_mkii/eos1dx-mkii-battery.shtml

My CPS told me this:

LP-E19 could work on EOS-1DX but the old charger LC-E4N could not charge LP-E19. LP-E4N could work on EOS-1DX MKII, but could not be up to 16 pictures/sec.

 

[kyle86]

I'd like to buy one... but at au$9k in Oz I have a hard time justifying it for what I do.

Where did you find an Aus price?

Teds and a couple of other sites are advertising it...although Teds may be a bit optimistic that it will be here in March.

https://www.teds.com.au/canon-eos-1dx-mkii-body

Also Camera House have it for 8999, I Pre Ordered mine from DigiDirect, they have a better price than Camera House, basically I'm paying USD$200 over the B'H price, so works for me (I bought 2 Bodies so I did get a good price).

The interest for me is the 61 AF points @ f/8, allows me to use any focus point when using the Mk III Converters, so for Wildlife this on it's own is worth the upgrade.

Essentially on the Video side your getting the 1Dc with some upgrades.

The C Fast Card, again, worth the upgrade, 16fps & 173 RAW images to fill the Buffer ?? for fast action Cheetah chases, worth the upgrade.

We will wait & see regards any improvement in DR, if there is an improvement that will be a Bonus.

The GPS is also great, saves a tongue, WiFi would be nice, but with the Magnesium Framework, like the Nikon D5, hard ask, so not a big issue for me.

2 x 1Dx Bodies going cheap

Yeah im thinking of waiting for a 10% off sale from DigiDirect hehe Did Digi give you a price yet and did they mention anything about the special with a 64gb CF card and reader or that just in the US ?