[Poll] Canon Reign Supreme Again?

[jukka]

Details, noise 5dmk3 and D800. Nikons "6400 iso" = 1/1600sec f-8
Both cameras 5dmk3 and d800 with the same exposure= time and f-stop. RAW and latest camera raw.
Details can be seen more clearly in the fabric, letters, face, etc. in the d800 image.


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[RLPhoto]

Canon continues to make a series of mistakes on they're product lines. Perhaps a lot like Kodak eh?

 

[NormanBates]

The title makes absolutely no sense. Whoever thinks Canon is reigning supreme now, must by all means think this was so all along (since it is now that Nikon is most competitive), therefore "again" makes no sense, and gives away the fact that you're just kidding yourself or trying to fool others.

Now, the comment about the certification for ISO 9001 was real funny, that alone makes me glad I clicked on this thread ;D

 

[hammy]

Why do they compare 22 mp Canon to 36 mp Nikon ? is that even a fair assessment?

 

[NormanBates]

well, there's all that "but small photosites will make your image noisier" debate, which needed to be disproved with samples such as those posted above

 

[jukka]

This is 1dx and d800 and the same exposure 1/1600 sec F-8 6400iso


There are a lot more resolution in d800 compared to 1dx and 6400iso .
The main difference regarding S/N will be after 12800iso (Nikon iso)


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[christianronnel]

I use auto-ISOs so don't see what the fuss is about. All of Canon's gear is rated for ISO 9001 at least, check the following link:

http://www.canon-europe.com/About_Us/sustainability/business/iso_9001/

iso 9001 is a manufacturing standard. It is a book of standards on how to conduct manufacturing. It has nothing to do with camera sensitivity. If you manufacture goods, and want to convince investers you are doing so responsibly, you mention that you manufacture to iso 9001 standards, or you are iso 9001 certified. You could manufacture tires, or bicycles, or clothes to these standards, it doesn't mean certified camera sensitivity.

I was about to explain that. I'm glad some people knew what they are talking about.

 

[Fishnose]

how i see the battle between Canon and Nikon:

Canon 1DX vs Nikon D4 - on pear no clear winner in my opinion.

Canon 5Dmk3 vs Nikon D800 - the D800 have a overall advantage over the Mk3

Canon 7d - still without a direct competitor

Nikon d300S vs Canon 50D ( the rightful competitor from canon) - clearly Nikon win.

Canon 60D vs Nikon D7000 - Nikon clearly wins in almost all aspects

Canon 650D vs Nikon D5200 - by faaaaar Nikon win.

Canon D1200 vs Nikon D3200 - Nikon win again.


Overall Nikon have a clear advantage over Canon....

Missing:
Canon 6D vs. Nikon D600

About 7D - it does have a direct competitor. The Nikon D90 is roughly the same age (1 yr older), meant for the same kind of customer. Less resolution, but better DR and much else. IQ is on par. Otherwise the D700 is a valid competitor as well.

And yes - it is fair to compare 5D3 to D800. These are the respective manufacuters highest res cameras, similar style bodies, similar prices.

 

[Ivan Muller]

Its quite amusing to read the heated discussions on which brands are better...as a Canon fan I accept that Nikon probably has better sensor technology at the moment and its cameras seem to be well priced. As a pro I also realize that most camera's quality far exceed the quality requirements of my clients...

But all this technology is like a yo yo one year canon is up and the next nikon and who knows maybe the year after that it will be sony!

Will that make me change systems? Definitely not, as a pro I need something far more than just image quality, I need a system...which btw it looks like almost all the big brands provide anyway...so we are spoiled for choice at the moment...but all the mudslinging is really more for camera collectors, the ones that worry about the street cred of their 'male jewelery'...the rest of us really don't worry about things like that.

I am much too heavily invested in canon at the moment to ever consider changing...For now I leave the battle of the 100% pixel peepers to the folks that have the time and the patience and strong eyes...me I am investing in lenses that will improve my vision, like the 24TS, the pancake and certainly the new 35mmf2 IS..also maybe a fourth 430ex2 flash to make my location portraits easier and a panhead for video, radio triggers, upgrade to CS6, more software, etc etc the list goes on and on...me I think I will wait for the 5dmk4 or the megapixel canon that is surely to come...and when it does I will have quality glass to match! In the meantime I am glad that nikon/sony is 'better' than canon, there is nothing like a bit of competition to improve matters

To see my work follow this link....http://www.ivanmuller.co.za/node/2080

 

[Ivan Muller]

This is 1dx and d800 and the same exposure 1/1600 sec F-8 6400iso


There are a lot more resolution in d800 compared to 1dx and 6400iso .
The main difference regarding S/N will be after 12800iso (Nikon iso)


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...actually what I see here, apart from the obvious is that the 1dx resolution is not that far off from the d800, which just shows you that double the pixels does not quite equate to double resolution...what I also see is amazing quality from both cameras, the D800 is simply suberb, with the 1dx not far behind...we live in exciting times and what all this pixel peeping prove is that you really cant go wrong buying either a canon or a nikon and I am sure the sony is up there too...!(and I am not forgetting Leica)

 

[jukka]

If you should have the double resolution then you need 72 Mp
I think there is a big difference in resolution , look at X and the text authentic beers

 

[rpt]

My personal opinion - and you can kill me for that - I think there is very little noise in the images. There is more N/S in this thread. The signal is provided by the few who tried to inject humor in here... So am I going to get the silent treatment or are you guys going to lighten up and realize what you have in your hand is just a hammer? (and I am so happy I am doing this on the internet [ and my doors are bolted ].

 

[V8Beast]

To see my work follow this link....http://www.ivanmuller.co.za/node/2080

Very nice portraits, with some slick post processing as well. I love how you make the midtones pop. If you care to give me some pointers on how to accomplish that, I'm all ears

 

[rpt]

To see my work follow this link....http://www.ivanmuller.co.za/node/2080

Very nice portraits, with some slick post processing as well. I love how you make the midtones pop. If you care to give me some pointers on how to accomplish that, I'm all ears

Ivan, lovely pictures.

 

[poias]

If you should have the double resolution then you need 72 Mp
I think there is a big difference in resolution , look at X and the text authentic beers

Look who cares about the labels below the name? Only pixel peepers care about those. Viewers only look at the image for like 2 seconds and move on. What matters is the actual composition and exposure, not silly things like resolution or detail.

 

[nicku]

what about a Canon 1DX vs Nikon D4 comparison??? If D800 is on pair with 1Dx that means D4 is way ahead...

 

[jukka]

what about a Canon 1DX vs Nikon D4 comparison??? If D800 is on pair with 1Dx that means D4 is way ahead...

why? it is on par up to 12800iso then the other sensors in d4 , 1dx with larger cells does a better job because of the low read out noise and pixel surface area. http://theory.uchicago.edu/~ejm/pix/20d/tests/noise/noise-p3.html

 

[jukka]

If you should have the double resolution then you need 72 Mp
I think there is a big difference in resolution , look at X and the text authentic beers

Look who cares about the labels below the name? Only pixel peepers care about those. Viewers only look at the image for like 2 seconds and move on. What matters is the actual composition and exposure, not silly things like resolution or detail.

It is all about resolution, noise, details, or we can close down this entire discussion regarding high iso etc!!!!!!!!