POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?

[wockawocka]

I had 2 1Dx's on order but the 5D3 has this over / the same as, the 1Dx:

Lighter, AF system practically the same, Higher MP

If it wasn't that I trusted pro bodies and their extra features more I'd probably cancel both orders and go purely 5D but I'll get one of each.

For weddings just how much 'noticeable' difference in IQ will the client see between both bodies?

 

[briansquibb]

For weddings just how much 'noticeable' difference in IQ will the client see between both bodies?

Very good question - I cant see the difference between the 1D4 and 5D2 for shots in reasonable light/flash. I would guess it will be pretty much the same for the 1DX and the 5D3 (printing at A3/16x10)

If the IQ are much the same then the choice would be made on the other IQ enhancing features such as the metering on the AF point, multiple AF point metering etc

A harder choice would be between a 1D4 and a 5DIII as they are not a million miles away in price.

We are talking use as a wedding camera here.

I appreciate that weddings can be done with other bodies too - but we are looking at the best Canon for the job. Even my old 40D would make a good job at a wedding, but just not the best.

 

[bigblue1ca]

This is interesting:

Canon has also evolved the sensor technology, reworking the internals of each pixel on the way to producing what is promised to be a considerably less noisy sensor than its predecessor (and the 5D Mark II was already pretty good in this respect). Westfall indicates that at moderate-to-high ISO sensitivities, the 5D Mark III has about a two-stop advantage over the 5D Mark II. As an example, he says, an ISO 3200 picture shot with the new model has roughly the dynamic range, noise and other characteristics of an ISO 800 picture shot with its predecessor.

He emphasizes that the bulk of the higher ISO image quality improvement comes from enhancements to the image sensor itself, as opposed to heavier-duty noise reduction being applied once the picture has been converted from analog to digital form. The only camera from Canon that will beat the image quality of the 5D Mark III at higher sensitivities, says Westfall, is the EOS-1D X.

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-11675-12364

 

[waving_odd]

I had 2 1Dx's on order but the 5D3 has this over / the same as, the 1Dx:

Lighter, AF system practically the same, Higher MP

If it wasn't that I trusted pro bodies and their extra features more I'd probably cancel both orders and go purely 5D but I'll get one of each.

For weddings just how much 'noticeable' difference in IQ will the client see between both bodies?

I've switched my pre-order of 1D X to two 5D III's. It looks like by the time the general public is still waiting for their 1D X pre-order to be filled, I might have been actually having fun with 5D III for at least a month on client assignments.

I'm also considering to get one of each and I'm pretty sure a used 5D III within the first 6 months will still be a hotcake. One of my 2 5D III's is more likely to be the stop gap before getting 1D X.

 

[sublime LightWorks]

Still not fully committed to the 1D X, but strongly leaning that way so voted accordingly. Reserving final judgement until after the official announcement. I don't feel the need to wait for reviews - I'm sure both cameras will be excellent. What I'm waiting for is the tech articles from Canon, similar to what they did for the 1D X, with the details of the systems, particularly AF and metering. I'm not bothered by the lower MP count of the 1D X, there's really not a huge difference between 22 MP and 18 MP (but on the other side of the fence, the difference between 36 and 16 MP would make for a harder decision). Aside from the obvious features of double the fps and a stop more ISO, there are a few minor things that incline me to the 1D X:

• I prefer two CF to one each CF + SD
• Integrated grip (annoyed by the flex of the separate grip)
• Spot metering linked to any AF point
• Customizable limits on shutter speed and aperture
• Higher flash sync speed

Note that some of those are assumptions, which is a big reason I'm waiting for official information.

Ultimately, though, it may be as simple as the fact that the 1D X is 'the best', and I want 'the best'...

Interestingly enough, if you pop over to the Canon USA website and click over to the 1Dx page, you'll see this note buried at the bottom of the page:

*The EOS-1D X has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission. These devices are not and may not be offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained.

I've never seen that before on any camera listing. I'm wondering if it's possible to see if the FCC has approved other cameras in the past (like the new 5D3 for example), or does the the 1Dx have something in it that requires an FCC approval.

 

[briansquibb]

I've never seen that before on any camera listing. I'm wondering if it's possible to see if the FCC has approved other cameras in the past (like the new 5D3 for example), or does the the 1Dx have something in it that requires an FCC approval.

Like WiFi?

 

[smirkypants]

waiting on f8

 

[bigblue1ca]

I've never seen that before on any camera listing. I'm wondering if it's possible to see if the FCC has approved other cameras in the past (like the new 5D3 for example), or does the the 1Dx have something in it that requires an FCC approval.

Like WiFi?

That's what I was thinking, but not being an American I have no clue if the FCC regulates WiFi bands/devices?

 

[sublime LightWorks]

I've never seen that before on any camera listing. I'm wondering if it's possible to see if the FCC has approved other cameras in the past (like the new 5D3 for example), or does the the 1Dx have something in it that requires an FCC approval.

Like WiFi?

Yes, but that's an option on most of the camera's, and it is an external option here. You would think that would be stated on the Wifi module, not the camera. You don't need the module to operate that camera and it's not built-in.

It's just funny I had never seen that on any previous camera announcements, and I'm wondering if it does not have current FCC approval, if that's the delay. Think about it, would you roll these off an assembly line if they weren't approved yet for FCC radio noise interference? And if you did, and found out you had to make a pretty significant shielding change, then what?

Sell the failing ones overseas? But you could not use them in the US....

This is kinda interesting, because if the line has not started producing them yet pending FCC approval, it might be a lot longer than April/May for them to start showing up.

 

[sublime LightWorks]

I've never seen that before on any camera listing. I'm wondering if it's possible to see if the FCC has approved other cameras in the past (like the new 5D3 for example), or does the the 1Dx have something in it that requires an FCC approval.

Like WiFi?

That's what I was thinking, but not being an American I have no clue if the FCC regulates WiFi bands/devices?

Yes the FCC does regulate that, but as I mentioned in another reply above, the wifi is in an optional module, not in the camera. I would not have expected to see such a statement on the camera itself.

 

[CandiColoredPixels]

I'm still shooting to purchase the 1DX. The Mark III only has about 6FPS, which just isn't quite fast enough for me. I'm working with the Mark II and at 4FPS it's tough to work with while shooting college sports.

 

[deerylou]

Canon 5D Mark III vs 1DX

Just curious - as a wedding photographer - I'm ready to upgrade from my 5D Mark II, which has given me considerable focusing issues (another subject all together) - if money were no object (ha) - would a 1DX be the best bet, or would it be overkill? I want to purchase the camera best suited for my needs: low light situations, gorgeous portraits and a BETTER AUTOFOCUS

What would or are you all going to do?

 

[wrack_of_lamb]

BTW, does anyone know if D800's 90k RGB metering can do the same?

The D800 has the ability to meter off of an AF point. In fact, many inexpensive Nikon bodies have had this feature, including the Nikon D40 from 2006 and the newer D3100 and D5100. I'm not sure why only the 1-series has it.

 

[nightbreath]

BTW, does anyone know if D800's 90k RGB metering can do the same?

The D800 has the ability to meter off of an AF point. In fact, many inexpensive Nikon bodies have had this feature, including the Nikon D40 from 2006 and the newer D3100 and D5100. I'm not sure why only the 1-series has it.

It's simply because manufacturers have to distinguish different product lines. I believe Canon's aim is to make 5D best selling product (as both 1D X and 5D Mark III are great all-around cameras and you'd defenitely want one of those for yourself), whereas Nikon have clear separation of the target audience their professional cameras aimed for.

 

[briansquibb]

BTW, does anyone know if D800's 90k RGB metering can do the same?

The D800 has the ability to meter off of an AF point. In fact, many inexpensive Nikon bodies have had this feature, including the Nikon D40 from 2006 and the newer D3100 and D5100. I'm not sure why only the 1-series has it.

The 5DIII has this capability as well.

 

[noodles]

Sorry if this an ackward question but: Is it possible to select pre-defined cases directly from the exposure mode button? And if yes, how many cases can be assigned?

 

[PhilDrinkwater]

I'm very much in the market for one of them. The 5d3 would be a great replacement for my 5d2 but would the 1dx offer even more? Would it save me time in post by having more accurate exposure and white balance (?)? Would I keep it longer due to the extended shutter life? (probably not )

It's a complicated equation.

Fundamentally the 5d3 seems to solve all of the problems I had with the 5d2 so the obvious smart money would take that, but at the same time I wonder whether the 1dx would offer me some extra things which were worthwhile.

My only disappointment is the battery life on the 1dx

 

[briansquibb]

I'm very much in the market for one of them. The 5d3 would be a great replacement for my 5d2 but would the 1dx offer even more? Would it save me time in post by having more accurate exposure and white balance (?)? Would I keep it longer due to the extended shutter life? (probably not )

It's a complicated equation.

Fundamentally the 5d3 seems to solve all of the problems I had with the 5d2 so the obvious smart money would take that, but at the same time I wonder whether the 1dx would offer me some extra things which were worthwhile.

My only disappointment is the battery life on the 1dx

Look at the Canon site where they list the 1DX features. See what extra it offers and decide wheter you want to pay for them

The headline benefits are probably fps and weatherproofing

 

[DzPhotography]

Planning to get 1DX in August / September when funds are complete

Then will be probably saving up for 5D3 and maybe getting rid of 7D as backup.

Voted accordingly

 

[Archangel72]

I'm still want to buy 1Dx, but... ???

In last few days I red many articles, previews & reviews considering new Canon EOS 5D MarkIII, and the stuff there is pretty convincing.
Pictures I saw from 5DMarkIII, videos, noise levels, resolution, new 61 point AF system, 6fps, audio controls, new body... all that for 3.090,00 Euros (body only) !
They implement so many good things from 1Dx, that I really have to ask myself do I need IDx any more.

I understand that 1Dx is professional camera with even more robust body, 12fps, and little less noise than 5DMarkIII, but...

Now my question is... is 1Dx that much better than 5D MarkIII that can easily justify it's double price (around 6.000,00 Euros, maybe even more than that).
Canon has to put a little more effort for pottentional 1Dx buyers, cause, 5DMarkIII looks really, really good.
Is the gap between these 2 cameras big enough (except the price)?
I will wait a little longer for reviews and comparission between these two, but I admit, I'm a little confused right now.
Please Canon, remove my doubts.

Archangel72