Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensor?

[Luds34]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

Lets not make big deal of this. Move on...

Really? That is some pretty frightening QA (or lack there of) right there. I'd think some basic tests would be if the camera can take clean pictures. I know I'd be pretty disappointed if I ordered a camera and this was the case.

Yes sir. This seems to be affecting only a few cameras.

Hopefully that is the case. Just a bad production run that so happened to end up in a number of the cameras purchased by our friends over at Lensrental.

I still stand by that this is fairly embarrassing on Canon's part. One would think there would be some sort of a basic manufacturing verification test, that would include a test shot to verify a clean sensor image is being returned. Just my humble opinion of course, free free to disagree.

 

[Luds34]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

Some people, especially in the entry level market of the t6i/750D are likely to never remove the kit lens, and even if they would, never to realize their camera has a flaw that should be covered by the warranty. So only the people who read forums, or have enough technical knowledge to see something is wrong will have their camera fixed, while a bunch of other will be left over with a defective toy.

+1

Even myself, I personally wouldn't expect something this egregious to make it in my hands. I'd probably throw in a memory card and start shooting, at wider apertures. The camera would take pictures, everything would seem fine and I'd be happy. I probably wouldn't notice it until one day (too late for warranty possibly) I'd do a dust sensor test.

 

[mskrystalmeth]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

Lets not make big deal of this. Move on...

What? IS that what they train you to say at Nikon? Sorry Nikon...lol

It is a big deal..if all those spots got by QA of Canon...Someone was lazy. Stevie Wonder could see them spots.

 

[rang]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensor?

CMOS Pox

 

[Tugela]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

I guess I was wrong. This is the calamity of the century. We should all whine and curse and jump up and down waving our hands wildly.
We should discuss this every hour, post on every social media and photography forums till the entire population starts mistrusting Canon. After all Canon has never done anything right for us. We should be as negative as possible in our lives towards Canon.

I was under the impression that Canon has given millions of perfectly working cameras and if some malfunctioned, we should not make a big deal of it.

Canon make money by selling old tech and cost cutting, then telling customers (very successfully) that that is what they really want.

Sometimes the shortcuts come back to bite them on the ass though, at it appears that this is one of those times. It is a bit of the marketing veneer peeled off so that you can see what you are really getting.

 

[Loswr]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

Canon make money by selling old tech and cost cutting, then telling customers (very successfully) that that is what they really want.

Sometimes the shortcuts come back to bite them on the ass though, at it appears that this is one of those times. It is a bit of the marketing veneer peeled off so that you can see what you are really getting.

How does Nikon make money? Speaking of being bitten on the ass, do you think the government of the world's most populous nation is likely to ban sale of the Canon 750D in their country?

 

[Gaf]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

But after scrutinizing the sensor in every way possible, I don't believe that her new T6s is one of those afflicted with the pox.

My father's T6i arrived 2-3 days ago from Camera Canada. Checked it last night and no spots thankfully.

 

[mskrystalmeth]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensor?

They got Spots Also!!! Hummmm

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2015/05/01/canon-t6-sensor-flecks-how-big-an-issue-an-in-depth-look

 

[YuengLinger]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

Canon make money by selling old tech and cost cutting, then telling customers (very successfully) that that is what they really want.

Sometimes the shortcuts come back to bite them on the ass though, at it appears that this is one of those times. It is a bit of the marketing veneer peeled off so that you can see what you are really getting.

How does Nikon make money? Speaking of being bitten on the ass, do you think the government of the world's most populous nation is likely to ban sale of the Canon 750D in their country?

They'll consider it, neuro, based on their track record.

 

[serendipidy]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

So what do we call this?

Canon's Dust-Integrated Sensor?
Canon's Dust-On Sensor?
Canon's Sensor Measles?

Thoughts on names?

Canon balls ;D

 

[Loswr]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensor?

I can't believe people on this forum. For years, we've been subjected to endless repetition – one might even call it droning – about how Nikon sensors were superior. About how Canon had to improve and try to match Nikon or face dire consequences. About Canon's failure to innovate.

Now, Canon paid attention to the superiority of the D600's sensor with oil spots on it...and they responded by producing a sensor with more spots, and innovatively put those spots in the sensor instead of merely on the surface.

Do you people acknowledge and praise Canon for finally surpassing Nikon's sensor spot technology? Of course not. You just complain all the more.

There really is no pleasing some people. Sheesh.

;D

 

[Aglet]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensor?

I can't believe people on this forum. For years, we've been subjected to endless repetition – one might even call it droning – about how Nikon sensors were superior. About how Canon had to improve and try to match Nikon or face dire consequences. About Canon's failure to innovate.

Now, Canon paid attention to the superiority of the D600's sensor with oil spots on it...and they responded by producing a sensor with more spots, and innovatively put those spots in the sensor instead of merely on the surface.

Do you people acknowledge and praise Canon for finally surpassing Nikon's sensor spot technology? Of course not. You just complain all the more.

There really is no pleasing some people. Sheesh.

;D

No kidding!
The Canon sensor is coming with the spots already pre-installed, you had to WAIT for the ones to show up on the D600 and, even then, the ones on the Nikon can be all too easily removed by cleaning whereas the Canon ones are more permanently affixed.
Canon is really doing everyone a huge favor with this more robust feature.

 

[rpt]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

So what do we call this?

Canon's Dust-Integrated Sensor?
Canon's Dust-On Sensor?
Canon's Sensor Measles?

Thoughts on names?

Canon balls ;D

;D ;D ;D ;D

 

[Tugela]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

Lets not make big deal of this. Move on...

Really? That is some pretty frightening QA (or lack there of) right there. I'd think some basic tests would be if the camera can take clean pictures. I know I'd be pretty disappointed if I ordered a camera and this was the case.

Yes sir. This seems to be affecting only a few cameras.

Hopefully that is the case. Just a bad production run that so happened to end up in a number of the cameras purchased by our friends over at Lensrental.

I still stand by that this is fairly embarrassing on Canon's part. One would think there would be some sort of a basic manufacturing verification test, that would include a test shot to verify a clean sensor image is being returned. Just my humble opinion of course, free free to disagree.

The same issue has been reported by individual users on the DPReview forums, where they are seeing faint bullseye watermarks all over their images. Based on the number of cameras in the Lens Rental sample that showed the defect, I am guessing that the problem is serious and widespread.

 

[jrista]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensor?

It's encouraging to hear Canon is actively looking into the issue already. At least they are not denying it exists, which is something Nikon has done with several of the issues in their camera models.


Sometimes things slip through QC. Nature of the high volume manufacturing business.

 

[Sporgon]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensor?

I presume this new sensor tech will be great for getting shots of Dalmations but not so good for Zebras.

 

[Marsu42]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

I am guessing that the problem is serious and widespread.

With about 100% of people having this problem probably posting all around the net, it's really impossible to tell - esp. as we don't know how many camera bodies are produced, if the sensors are all from the same fab and so on.

But I very much doubt such an obvious problem could slip by Canon q&a in large numbers, it's not like the Nikon sensor oil that needed some time shooting to show itself.

 

[kphoto99]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensor?

This is Canon's attempt at improving sales of 70D

 

[Tugela]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

I am guessing that the problem is serious and widespread.

With about 100% of people having this problem probably posting all around the net, it's really impossible to tell - esp. as we don't know how many camera bodies are produced, if the sensors are all from the same fab and so on.

But I very much doubt such an obvious problem could slip by Canon q&a in large numbers, it's not like the Nikon sensor oil that needed some time shooting to show itself.

We do have numbers on a reasonable sample size though. Six of the 20 units Lens Rentals had the problem, so it is probably going to be thousands of units overall that are affected.

And even if your particular camera doesn't show the effect, how sure can you be that it won't show up later?

I would not advise buying a Rebel 6 series now period, at least until such time as they do a general recall and issue new cameras with the defect corrected.

 

[Marsu42]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

Six of the 20 units Lens Rentals had the problem, so it is probably going to be thousands of units overall that are affected.

I'm not trying to be a Canon fanboi (I wouldn't be good at it ) but I doubt this deduction is valid, too: These cameras most likely aren't a random sample of all t6i units sold, but all come from the same production batch. If some temporal error on some machine was the cause, the cases reported by now might be nearly all, save some ppl who don't have acccess to the net and don't check for themselves.

If there is a more widespread problem, I'm sure Canon will issue some statement, this would be preferable pr-wise to let customers shoot for years with a broken sensor and getting broken pics.