Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensor?

[ajfotofilmagem]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensor?

This is Canon's attempt at improving sales of 70D

Who said that the 70D sales are low? ???

Why does the wonderful (according to some) Sony A7 is being sold with huge price declines for only US998?

It will be as difficult a full frame camera with image quality better than any Canon (according to some) to compete with the crap camera 70D?

 

[xps]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensor?


An review of the two new bodies.... and a not Canon friendly conclusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG7jmw8CBF4&feature=youtu.be&t=12m06s&hd=1

Found at sonyalpharumors.com

 

[Marsu42]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensor?

An review of the two new bodies.... and a not Canon friendly conclusion.

Well, it's mostly about video - and the guy got it in one: Canon won't put any important video features of their higher-up cams into a Rebel. Otherwise I view this review as rather favorable, it's just that they point out what Canon cut away or didn't put in ... which is great, competition can only improve things for Canon users.

What they say is lacking (for those who don't wanna watch the 15min review)
* viewfinder is small (esp. vs. mirrorless)
* no can do 1080p 60p and low video compression modes (ML to the rescue!)
* hdr video is a gimmick (only auto expo, small difference)
* mediocre high iso performance vs. 20mp sensors
* Nikon 5500 has 39 af pts, but Canon 11pt performs ok except for big af spots
* body is larger than mirrorless or former Rebels -> probably a cue that there won't be a 80d?

The "not Canon friendly conclusion" simply is that a Sony mirrorless bombs away an old-school Canon dslr concerning many specs, features and price ... plus smaller size, if that's what you want. But we already knew that.

 

[Tugela]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

Six of the 20 units Lens Rentals had the problem, so it is probably going to be thousands of units overall that are affected.

I'm not trying to be a Canon fanboi (I wouldn't be good at it ) but I doubt this deduction is valid, too: These cameras most likely aren't a random sample of all t6i units sold, but all come from the same production batch. If some temporal error on some machine was the cause, the cases reported by now might be nearly all, save some ppl who don't have acccess to the net and don't check for themselves.

If there is a more widespread problem, I'm sure Canon will issue some statement, this would be preferable pr-wise to let customers shoot for years with a broken sensor and getting broken pics.

Except that the cameras showing the issue comprised of two different models, so clearly are not from the same production batch.

Canon won't issue a statement until they know the extent of the problem and how they are going to deal with it, because there will be a very substantial amount of money involved. So it might take some time before we hear from them on the issue.

 

[Tugela]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensor?

This is Canon's attempt at improving sales of 70D

Who said that the 70D sales are low? ???

Why does the wonderful (according to some) Sony A7 is being sold with huge price declines for only US998?

It will be as difficult a full frame camera with image quality better than any Canon (according to some) to compete with the crap camera 70D?

There isn't a correlation between sales figures and quality.

Most of the people who buy low to mid end consumer DSLRs are not particularly well informed about the technical aspects of the cameras - they want a "fancy" camera and buy the label they most recognize, basically. That is the main reason Canon sells so many copies.

 

[Loswr]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

Except that the cameras showing the issue comprised of two different models, so clearly are not from the same production batch.

Same production batch of sensors. When Canon uses the same sensor across multiple bodies, they'll produce sizable batches of them, and a batch would be used for assembly of multiple body lines.

That's Manufacturing 101, you see it when Ford or Toyota recall 5-10 different models for a faulty ignition switch or door latch.

 

[Tugela]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

Except that the cameras showing the issue comprised of two different models, so clearly are not from the same production batch.

Same production batch of sensors. When Canon uses the same sensor across multiple bodies, they'll produce sizable batches of them, and a batch would be used for assembly of multiple body lines.

That's Manufacturing 101, you see it when Ford or Toyota recall 5-10 different models for a faulty ignition switch or door latch.

Manufacturing 101 - when you release a new product you build a stockpile. If different models have the same problem, then the problem likely exists in the entire stockpile since the cameras would not be assembled from scratch specifically for LensRentals.

 

[Loswr]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

Except that the cameras showing the issue comprised of two different models, so clearly are not from the same production batch.

Same production batch of sensors. When Canon uses the same sensor across multiple bodies, they'll produce sizable batches of them, and a batch would be used for assembly of multiple body lines.

That's Manufacturing 101, you see it when Ford or Toyota recall 5-10 different models for a faulty ignition switch or door latch.

Manufacturing 101 - when you release a new product you build a stockpile. If different models have the same problem, then the problem likely exists in the entire stockpile since the cameras would not be assembled from scratch specifically for LensRentals.

Obviously. That was my point. A production run of sensors used in the assembly of more than one body model. Say...50,000 sensors used to make 35,000 T6i/750D and 15,000 T6s/760D. Not likely the problem affects the entire production run (i.e. every sensor), since LensRentals' units of both bodies would likely all have come from the same allocation/shipment.

Or...were you refuting the suggestion that Canon produced a batch of 20 cameras specifically for LensRentals? That idea is so ludicrous is doesn't even deserve a response, much less a refutation.

 

[Don Haines]

Re: Possible Issue With T6s & T6i Sensors?

Canon make money by selling old tech and cost cutting, then telling customers (very successfully) that that is what they really want.

Sometimes the shortcuts come back to bite them on the ass though, at it appears that this is one of those times. It is a bit of the marketing veneer peeled off so that you can see what you are really getting.

How does Nikon make money? Speaking of being bitten on the ass, do you think the government of the world's most populous nation is likely to ban sale of the Canon 750D in their country?

They'll consider it, neuro, based on their track record.

There is a huge difference here....

The Nikon action was to deny, deny, deny.....

The Canon action was to exchange for a new unit....

China acted to protect it's consumers from a faulty Nikon product. If the Canon reaction is to say, "yes, there is a problem, we are trying to figure out how widespread it is, exchange it for a new one", no consumer protection is needed.