Prediction for next round of DSLR cameras

[viggen61]

I tend to disagree. Touch will not work with gloves. Buttons do. Touch and rain is also a bad combination. And the most important argument is that buttons can be used without taking the eye from the viewfinder. Touch would almost be impossible here.

+1! Touch can be handy, but in many cases, the buttons just do it better. I'd cringe if I were forced to change ISO purely by touch screen. With my 7D, I can change ISO without taking my eye from the viewfinder. I only wish more of the top LCD button functions were like that (many don't give you feedback in the VF, only in the top LCD. ISO is an exception).

Reviewing images is far easier without having to swipe the screen. Again, on the 7D, the buttons are just about perfect. You hold the camera in both hands, your right thumb can hit the review button or cycle through the histograms, or choose the delete button, while your left thumb operates the zoom buttons, the main dial, and the joystick, and you have your right index finger for the 10 image jump with the front dial.

I've owned an iPhone for 5 years, and I'm getting the 5S soon. The touch screen is great - in a phone - but I don't think I want to have to do everything on my Canon via touch. Some things, perhaps, but certainly not all.

 

[jdramirez]

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This has a about zero influence on why I buy a camera.

ditto. I don't want it to be blurry, but improving existing technology is a waste of time for me... in this regard only. please feel fee to improve every other aspect of the camera.

 

[SwampYankee]

Put 35mm sensor in this chassis :

Am I asking too much?

Can do as long as you call it a Sony NEX-9 ;D

 

[Dylan777]

Put 35mm sensor in this chassis :

Am I asking too much?

Can do as long as you call it a Sony NEX-9 ;D

I doubt NEX-9 has retro/classic/vintage body style, which I'm craving for it. I'll look forward to see what Fuji has to offer in FF.

 

[Lichtgestalt]

but improving existing technology is a waste of time for me... in this regard only. please feel fee to improve every other aspect of the camera.

have you used a touchscreen on your camera?

i heard exactly the same about LV when it came out.
no offense, but in my experience some people have to USE a technology to fully understand it.. and it´s benefits.

 

[Ruined]

I tend to disagree. Touch will not work with gloves. Buttons do. Touch and rain is also a bad combination. And the most important argument is that buttons can be used without taking the eye from the viewfinder. Touch would almost be impossible here.

+1! Touch can be handy, but in many cases, the buttons just do it better. I'd cringe if I were forced to change ISO purely by touch screen. With my 7D, I can change ISO without taking my eye from the viewfinder. I only wish more of the top LCD button functions were like that (many don't give you feedback in the VF, only in the top LCD. ISO is an exception).

Reviewing images is far easier without having to swipe the screen. Again, on the 7D, the buttons are just about perfect. You hold the camera in both hands, your right thumb can hit the review button or cycle through the histograms, or choose the delete button, while your left thumb operates the zoom buttons, the main dial, and the joystick, and you have your right index finger for the 10 image jump with the front dial.

I've owned an iPhone for 5 years, and I'm getting the 5S soon. The touch screen is great - in a phone - but I don't think I want to have to do everything on my Canon via touch. Some things, perhaps, but certainly not all.

Explain to me how - without a touchscreen - you would duplicate touch-to-focus in live view on your 7D, or when previewing images to see if various parts are in focus how you'd zip from one part of the image to another, zooming in and out as much as you want, panning as quickly as you want simply by pinch-to-zoom and swiping.

I think those who feel the only benefit of a touchscreen is an iphone-like menu haven't really tried it out on a Canon DSLR, because there is stuff that makes the workflow go a LOT faster with a touchscreen and there are things that you simply cannot do without a touchscreen such as touch to focus in Live View. Again, touchscreens don't REPLACE physical buttons, but it adds intuitive controls and features you simply can't duplicate without a touchscreen.

Also, the flip out screen is nice because it allows you to take off axis images. Sometimes you might want a shot where it would be impossible to see directly behind a camera. Flip out screens allow you to take those pics without having to bust out a mirror or something cumbersome like that.

 

[Don Haines]

I tend to disagree. Touch will not work with gloves. Buttons do. Touch and rain is also a bad combination. And the most important argument is that buttons can be used without taking the eye from the viewfinder. Touch would almost be impossible here.

+1! Touch can be handy, but in many cases, the buttons just do it better. I'd cringe if I were forced to change ISO purely by touch screen. With my 7D, I can change ISO without taking my eye from the viewfinder. I only wish more of the top LCD button functions were like that (many don't give you feedback in the VF, only in the top LCD. ISO is an exception).

Reviewing images is far easier without having to swipe the screen. Again, on the 7D, the buttons are just about perfect. You hold the camera in both hands, your right thumb can hit the review button or cycle through the histograms, or choose the delete button, while your left thumb operates the zoom buttons, the main dial, and the joystick, and you have your right index finger for the 10 image jump with the front dial.

I've owned an iPhone for 5 years, and I'm getting the 5S soon. The touch screen is great - in a phone - but I don't think I want to have to do everything on my Canon via touch. Some things, perhaps, but certainly not all.

Explain to me how - without a touchscreen - you would duplicate touch-to-focus in live view on your 7D, or when previewing images to see if various parts are in focus how you'd zip from one part of the image to another, zooming in and out as much as you want, panning as quickly as you want simply by pinch-to-zoom and swiping.

I think those who feel the only benefit of a touchscreen is an iphone-like menu haven't really tried it out on a Canon DSLR, because there is stuff that makes the workflow go a LOT faster with a touchscreen and there are things that you simply cannot do without a touchscreen such as touch to focus in Live View. Again, touchscreens don't REPLACE physical buttons, but it adds intuitive controls and features you simply can't duplicate without a touchscreen.

Also, the flip out screen is nice because it allows you to take off axis images. Sometimes you might want a shot where it would be impossible to see directly behind a camera. Flip out screens allow you to take those pics without having to bust out a mirror or something cumbersome like that.

As to touchscreen... It is an ADDITION to methods to control your camera.... and it is small step from controlling with a touchscreen on the back of the camera to controlling with a tablet in your hands.... Tilt/swivel/walk away with

As to built in tilt/swivel.... very usefull when taking pictures at ground level and even more so when the tripod is in a beaver swamp and the camera is a few inches above the water... and you can face the LCD inwards to protect the screen...

 

[Drizzt321]

I tend to disagree. Touch will not work with gloves. Buttons do. Touch and rain is also a bad combination. And the most important argument is that buttons can be used without taking the eye from the viewfinder. Touch would almost be impossible here.

+1! Touch can be handy, but in many cases, the buttons just do it better. I'd cringe if I were forced to change ISO purely by touch screen. With my 7D, I can change ISO without taking my eye from the viewfinder. I only wish more of the top LCD button functions were like that (many don't give you feedback in the VF, only in the top LCD. ISO is an exception).

Reviewing images is far easier without having to swipe the screen. Again, on the 7D, the buttons are just about perfect. You hold the camera in both hands, your right thumb can hit the review button or cycle through the histograms, or choose the delete button, while your left thumb operates the zoom buttons, the main dial, and the joystick, and you have your right index finger for the 10 image jump with the front dial.

I've owned an iPhone for 5 years, and I'm getting the 5S soon. The touch screen is great - in a phone - but I don't think I want to have to do everything on my Canon via touch. Some things, perhaps, but certainly not all.

Well, I hope you want to control your DSLR via touch! Buttons and joysticks need you to actually push them, which means you need to touch them

As long as, unlike on the EOS-M, they offer a way to completely turn off the touch screen (which it appears the 70D does), then I'm perfectly fine with them including it. It's probably the way things are heading anyway, so might as well get it out of the way.

 

[9VIII]

I'm confused, when did anyone say that they wanted the buttons removed in favour of purely touchscreen based controls?

 

[Drizzt321]

I'm confused, when did anyone say that they wanted the buttons removed in favour of purely touchscreen based controls?

Not sure it was explicitly stated...but I think some of us are worried that Canon is going to be insane and think that just because smartphones have gone completely touch that it'd be a good idea for DSLRs to do the same.

Personally I want a good quality portrait keyboard (ala Palm Treo style) on my phone, even if it has a good sized touch screen. But then, I guess I'm just an old curmudgeon that thinks that because I'm so efficient at it I should be able to find a phone like that in the marketplace somewhere.

 

[surapon]

Put 35mm sensor in this chassis :

Am I asking too much?

Thank you , Sir Dear Dyland777.
That will be my day, I will buy 3 of them.
Similar to my dear Canon Tank FT-QL my first Japanese Camera in 1955-56, which my dear Dad brought me from PX camp/ American Air force Camp in Thailand / Vietnam war era. Yes, Before that I use my Daddy's Leica III f.
Thanks again dear Dylan777---You make my day.
Surapon

 

[zim]

No one up for a new improved version of the eye control thingy ?

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Higher resolution LCD screens

If Canon were to produce an LCD with the same pixel pitch (326 ppi) as the iPhone 4-5S and the 3:2 aspect ratio it would have a resolution of -
3.0": 814 x 542 (1.32 million dot)
3.2": 868 x 579 (1.51 million dot)
3.5": 960 x 640 (1.84 million dot) - same size as iPhone 4/4S

If Canon were to produce an LCD with the same pixel pitch (441 ppi) as the Samsung Galaxy S4 and 3:2 AR it would be -
3.0": 1100 x 733 (2.42 million dot)
3.2": 1174 x 783 (2.76 million dot)
3.5": 1284 x 856 (3.30 million dot)

Better than the current 720 x 480 (1.04 million dot) displays (288 ppi @ 3", 270 ppi @ 3.2"), and could allow Canon to tout the highest resolution LCD on any DSLR (Samsung would still have the biggest, though, with the almost-unusably-large Galaxy series at 4.8"). Does anyone know what type of panel technology is used in current DSLR LCDs (TN, MVA, PVA, IPS, eIPS, etc)?

What are your thoughts?

Canon does not produce LCD's, they buy them from Sony.

I'd like them to use a OLED display so it is bright enough to use outdoors.

 

[luciolepri]

No one up for a new improved version of the eye control thingy ?

You mean the one that came out with the EOS 5?
I liked it...

 

[surapon]

No one up for a new improved version of the eye control thingy ?

You mean the one that came out with the EOS 5?
I liked it...

Dear Friends and Canon.
If you Provide New improve version eye control spot focus similar to my dear old 1992 Canon A2E ( EOS 5 , another name), I will buy it Now, I love that A2E so much.
Surapon

 

[KyleSTL]

Higher resolution LCD screens

If Canon were to produce an LCD with the same pixel pitch (326 ppi) as the iPhone 4-5S and the 3:2 aspect ratio it would have a resolution of -
3.0": 814 x 542 (1.32 million dot)
3.2": 868 x 579 (1.51 million dot)
3.5": 960 x 640 (1.84 million dot) - same size as iPhone 4/4S

If Canon were to produce an LCD with the same pixel pitch (441 ppi) as the Samsung Galaxy S4 and 3:2 AR it would be -
3.0": 1100 x 733 (2.42 million dot)
3.2": 1174 x 783 (2.76 million dot)
3.5": 1284 x 856 (3.30 million dot)

Better than the current 720 x 480 (1.04 million dot) displays (288 ppi @ 3", 270 ppi @ 3.2"), and could allow Canon to tout the highest resolution LCD on any DSLR (Samsung would still have the biggest, though, with the almost-unusably-large Galaxy series at 4.8"). Does anyone know what type of panel technology is used in current DSLR LCDs (TN, MVA, PVA, IPS, eIPS, etc)?

What are your thoughts?

Canon does not produce LCD's, they buy them from Sony.

I'd like them to use a OLED display so it is bright enough to use outdoors.

Yes, the same Sony that makes the Xperia Z (5.0" LCD at 1080p - 443ppi).

OLED would be a good option. My dream is for someone to come up with a full color screen that is as easy to read in full sunlight as e-Ink but also has backlight for darker conditions. Also, S-IPS color accuracy (100%+ sRGB spectrum), RGB LED backlight and 1000:1 contrast ratio. I'm not asking for too much, am I?

 

[mackguyver]

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This has a about zero influence on why I buy a camera.

+1 as long as it's not tiny or crap, I've been happy since the 2"+ screens came out. As long as I can see the histogram in sunlight and enough detail in Live View when I manually focus, I'm good to go.

 

[douglasgottlieb]

Put 35mm sensor in this chassis :

Am I asking too much?

I'd buy a tiny, retro styled Canon mirrorless that looks like this in a heartbeat. But you've filed in the DSLR section! You want "mirrorless," two doors down.

Where's the EOSM2? Lovely mockup!