Purchase 5DIII now, or wait for 5DIV?

Hi Maiaibing!

And thank you very much for putting me on the right spot. (Where I already had been IMHO).
And also for spending so much attention to the OPs needs and questions. Or not ::)

Maiaibing said:
Maximilian said:
You're talking about a camera (5D4) that is not even at the horizon although some talk about a potential announcement in 2015.
Canons Camera Division Executive Masaya Maeda has twice confirmed that a new high megapixel camera is coming soon. He mentioned it the first time back in SEP 2014.

DEC 14, 2014 he said: "We are thinking of a high pixel count cameras for users who want high resolution images, and it will come out soon. It will retain pixel quality while increasing pixel count.
Did Mr Maeda say or do you know that this mentioned camera will be the 5D4 or lets call it the successor of the 5D3?
I see it in a different part of the market.
Did Mr Maeda say or do you you know when exactly and with which specs this camera will be announced and (much more important) released?
Of course everybody knows that there will be new cameras to come, maybe even in the near future, but until a real good rumor with any potential specification release date and price has appeared, I beg to be allowed to call this "not on the horizon". ::)
But maybe Canon will prove me wrong :P

Maximilian said:
No one here knows. So why ask?

Why answer, when you are not following the announcements from Canon?
What do you know about me to think so? ::)
You should better refer to the questions of chrisnosleep

Even if we do not know exactly what this camera will look like it would be rushing it to buy a Canon camera right now unless you absolutely need it or can exclude that you would be interested in Canon's soon-to-come-according-to-Canon-mangement DSLR.

This new DSLR will hopefully at least catch up with the substantial advances that Nikon has made since the 5DIII came out. And why should we not expect Canons newest DSLR will be better than anything Nikon has out there already?
And if you read the OPs needs and my response (as well as the rumors about new Canon cameras) carefully enough you could see that an upcoming Canon high MP camera will presumably not meet the needs of chrisnosleep (indoor sports = high ISO, high FPS), because it surely will not blow anything out of the water but will be some evolution but no revolution with all it's pros and cons.

If nothing else a new release will certainly lower Canon 5DIII prices even more.

Time from presentation to market is only a few weeks for new Canon DSLRs, so with any luck the new camera will hit stores in April if launched at the same photo show as the 5DIII was 3 years ago (guessing here).
Yes, just guessing here!
So if chrisnosleep and you have time to wait, you can do so. (As I stated in my initial post)
Maybe you're right that this new camera could hit the storse til April.
But my guess (from all the rumors within the last months, which I DID read) is that this will not be a 5D4 and even if it is called so it will (pretty sure) not meet the needs of chrisnosleep.
 
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Thank you all for the comments and suggestions. I very much appreciate all the different perspectives.

Mt Spokane Photography said:
I'd be happy with a 6D, I don't go for using high FPS, but rather resort to timing, its really not that difficult. I've done 10 FPS, and I don't like wading thru hundreds of photos to find the one I would have taken with a 1 shot setting.

I completely agree. That being said, one of my issues with the 6D is the lag between button click to shutter click. It seems like 1/2 to 3/4 second to take the shot. With sports, I'm pushing the button a split second before I predict the shot I want. The result is nearly always a late shot after the peak of the action which I was attempting to get. I've got about 20K shots with the 6D, which I feel is a fair enough amount to get used to the lag, but I just can't seem to program it into my brain. Having the 70D makes this even more difficult since its so much better with the lag. In fact, in burst mode, its difficult to get just one frame. Its usually catching a minimum of two, when set to burst, before I can get off it.

Mt Spokane Photography said:
You can get a pretty good price on a 5D MK III thru Canon Price Watch ($2399). Its from a authorized dealer, with full warranty. It may be a better deal than the one from B&H.

I did see this as well, but I was finding it hard to trust since I've not known of anyone to use them. Is this system trustworthy? Have any of you used this method and had good experiences? Clearly they can beat B&H price, but I know and trust them.
 
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Normally, as others have said, buy when you need, not make descitions based on rumors. However, CP+ is just around the corner. I would have waited until CP+ had finished before making a descition. If the 5D4 is not mentioned here, I would just go with the 5D3.
 
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Maiaibing said:
Maximilian said:
You're talking about a camera (5D4) that is not even at the horizon although some talk about a potential announcement in 2015.

Canons Camera Division Executive Masaya Maeda has twice confirmed that a new high megapixel camera is coming soon. He mentioned it the first time back in SEP 2014.

DEC 14, 2014 he said: "We are thinking of a high pixel count cameras for users who want high resolution images, and it will come out soon. It will retain pixel quality while increasing pixel count.

Maximilian said:
No one here knows. So why ask?

Why answer, when you are not following the announcements from Canon?

Even if we do not know exactly what this camera will look like it would be rushing it to buy a Canon camera right now unless you absolutely need it or can exclude that you would be interested in Canon's soon-to-come-according-to-Canon-mangement DSLR.

This new DSLR will hopefully at least catch up with the substantial advances that Nikon has made since the 5DIII came out. And why should we not expect Canons newest DSLR will be better than anything Nikon has out there already?

If nothing else a new release will certainly lower Canon 5DIII prices even more.

Time from presentation to market is only a few weeks for new Canon DSLRs, so with any luck the new camera will hit stores in April if launched at the same photo show as the 5DIII was 3 years ago (guessing here).


Yes that .

Also, the old adage works, good things come to those who wait.

Technology almost always gets better.... so does IQ

Prices on current gear (excluding exceptions) always goes down.

So it makes sense to wait..... unless:

There is a definite need with a financial Impact. At the end of the day this decision will be driven by your patience, and if you are looking for confirmation then here is it from me:

Wait for the 5d4 or even a year longer for the 6D2.
 
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chrisnosleep said:
So I'm on the fence about whether I should wait and hope for the 5DIV to come out within the year, or go ahead and finally put down the money for the 5DIII. Also, any input on what people are thinking the 5DIV is going to be priced at would be nice. If its more than $1000 higher than the 5DIII or more than a year out, I probably won't be in the market for it after all. I currently have the 70D and 6D usually paired with the 70-200 2.8 II and I shoot mostly sporting events. The 70D does a decent job for the outside events, but anything indoors is too grainy. The 6D does fine on the graininess indoors, but misses focus way to often. So this is my dilemma, any help would be greatly appreciated.


Can't tell you which is the right decision for you. However, my beloved 6D (the three month old one not the 2013 model) was recently stolen from an apartment I was renting. Seriously considered the 5D mkiii as a replacement, but don't need the better focusing for bif and action photos and really liked the 6D sensor in low light. Have used the 5D mkiii briefly that my sister owns and it is quite a bit nicer body....buuut the new 6D was under 1500 (under 1300 now for grey market). It's the age old question, a new body or new lenses? The later is the wiser investment imo. Always get the best lens(s) you can afford!

btw, they also got my 24-70 f/4 is and the new copy just doesn't have the same IQ snap (bummer).
 
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