My headmaster (principal) arranged when I was a schoolboy a lecture from the member of the Flat Earth Society to broaden our experience. I think the lecturer is now an active member of CR.
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I have seen scores of D500s on my regular bird photo outings. How many bird photography events and expeditions do you go to? Tell us the sales figures for D500s.Maybe. I'd like to see something other than "I was at X and four out of five people have switched to the D500." Given Nikon's rather anemic sales overall, I'm skeptical of such claims.
Thank you for taking the time and effort to answer my question - I appeciate it. However, you had missed what I had written earlier.
I use Spot AF on my 5Div and 5DSR and it is much smaller than the smallest AF square on my M5, and I want to know whether Canon can do the equivalent on the R series.
Amazon DSLR Listing: D500 is #74, 7DII is #87. Neither one is exactly burning up the charts. Top 10: Eight Canons and two Nikons. Everything below $600.I have seen scores of D500s on my regular bird photo outings. How many bird photography events and expeditions do you go to? Tell us the sales figures for D500s.
You may be the smartest person on this forum.I am seeing a silver lining in this conversation. I use the ORIGINAL 7D. I also have a Canon full frame and lots of amazing glass. I use the 7D for wildlife. I live on an island so about 80% my shooting is in a salt water environment. All those years of rugged use are starting take their toll on my ancient 7D . I am looking foreward to picking up a new 7DII at a fire sale price!
I agree conceptually, if not semantically. I was surprised by the elimination of the ‘upgrade path’ of users buying FF lenses while using an APS-C camera, facilitating their eventually buying a FF camera. But Canon has years of data with millions of data points (i.e., product registrations) to inform on just how common that is...and decided to make RF lenses incompatible with the M-series body anyway.
The did decide to make the M series separate from the R series, but ‘orphaned’ is the wrong connotation. It’s like saying the 50 year old billionaire who’s parents just died was ‘orphaned’. The APS-C market remains far larger than the FF market.
Only problem is that the specs mentioned, are 1D replacement. Why put APS-C sensor when you can put FF sensor and get a much better result? Mirrorless cameras are all about the electronics. So is you have a 30MP FF or 30MP APS-C sensor, it is (as far for anything else) the same electronic solution (design). So why taking the R camera, and place an APS-C sensor it in for? you already have the R camera with 30MP sensor in it.Just a guessing.... a R-mount 7D would mean APS-C and the rumored high speed body.... well, this may all make sense to me...
I might add, that most of the new features are those one will hardly ever use. My 7D produce wonderful pictures, this one for instance, was printed on 20X30inch paper and it looks amazing.IMO if Canon scraps the 7D Series without offering an up to date alternative Pro Wildlife/Sports/Action APS-C Camera "DSLR" Body, they have obviously decided these types of shooters are not a high priority in their targeted marketing strategy going forward....
I use a 80D with a Sigma 150-600mm Lens for my wildlife and birding shooting, etc., and it works pretty well for me in the right conditions. I was looking forward to getting the 7Diii in a couple years from now, but I reckon the 90D will have to do. It's a bit insane to me to just change systems over a few features, I can improvise and make what I have work (and always do).
It does amaze me to hear so many are capable of dumping 10 or 20 grand every couple years to switch systems for a few new features!
I get a different set of figures. The D500 is 35th best selling and the 7DII is 118th DSLR body on Amazon.com whereas they are 14 and, 19 on Amazon.co.uk. Whatever, the D500 outsells the 7DII on Amazon you will have to agree. Now please answer the rest of my question about how many bird photography outings do you go on to have any first hand knowledge of the occurrence of the D500 in the field.Amazon DSLR Listing: D500 is #74, 7DII is #87. Neither one is exactly burning up the charts. Top 10: Eight Canons and two Nikons. Everything below $600.
Are we approaching a point where consumers no longer put much faith in the "perceived reach advantages of the 1.6 crop factor," thanks to education and experience?
Why would we be? A 32MP APS-C sensor in the 90D will still have more 'reach' through density than any other Canon camera, even the fabled 70MP RS.
It is certainly an interesting situation. The fact that the 7D II moves lenses suggests that that's what they want out of moving it to the R mount. Canon may need to get more people buying into that system as quick as possible to keep it moving. Canon has aggressively priced the R and RP, likely to get more mounts into the wild which need lenses. I wouldn't be surprised if both the R and RP were loss leaders considering the cost of comparable DSLR release prices in the Canon ecosystem.
Here's an idea - if the spiritual successor to the 7DII was a full frame R camera with a (somewhat) lower resolution sensor, maybe they could release that alongside an EF mount adaptor with a built in teleconverter. The R can focus at f/11, so with a 2x version you could effectively turn the 100-400 into an autofocusing 200-800 on a full frame with improved light collection. Releasing a full frame camera with a somewhat lower resolution to allow a much faster burst rate combined with a EF adapter/teleconverter would could tick a lot of those boxes the 7D II was filling while giving better light collecting power, and provide a better vehicle to move those with interest in crop sensors to move up to full frame and start buying RF glass. Who knows what something like that would cost, but if the 90D is moving up market I would expect the 7D II successor to do the same. Crazy ideas, I know, but if Canon's objective is to get more people buying into RF glass then moving the camera which sells the most glass to the RF mount could be one way to do it!
I think quite a lot of them have EF-S 15-85.
Yes. If you want to shoot wide angle to normal on a 7DII, it makes much more sense to use an EF-S lens. The 15-85, 17-55 2.8 and 10-22 are all popular lenses.
... the 90D.
Are you saying that you, an owner of a 5D series body, would not be buying the same lenses if you didn't have a 7D series body?I've never shot anything shorter than a 70-200 on my 7D Mark II. That's what my 5D Mark III is for.
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The lens sales that 7D series cameras generate are in the 70-200mm range and up, not EF-s lenses.