Review: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV by DPReview
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zim said:YuengLinger said:
I'd photograph a fart in a space suit. It would be as conclusive and relevant;D
Thank you for focusing every bit of your middle school education on the assignment.
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douglaurent said:
Maybe because their copies did not overheat. Maybe you should do a review. How in the world could anyone else know what YOUR camera is doing? :
Besides, didn't Sony have to do a firmware update to fix overheating issues when recording in 4K? Answer: Yes.
You know, some people could have a gift of $1,000,000 tax free dumped in their back yard... and would complain about the paper cut they got while counting it... then say that Rupees would have been better.
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You just need the right cameraStudentOfLight said:
You can shoot thermal videos with a Fluke Tix 5200 (got one at work).....
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CanonFanBoy said:douglaurent said:
Maybe because their copies did not overheat. Maybe you should do a review. How in the world could anyone else know what YOUR camera is doing? :
Besides, didn't Sony have to do a firmware update to fix overheating issues when recording in 4K? Answer: Yes.
You know, some people could have a gift of $1,000,000 tax free dumped in their back yard... and would complain about the paper cut they got while counting it... then say that Rupees would have been better.
Did you really just liken complaining about something you paid for fail to complaining about the form of something given freely?
Come on.
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3kramd5 said:CanonFanBoy said:douglaurent said:
Maybe because their copies did not overheat. Maybe you should do a review. How in the world could anyone else know what YOUR camera is doing? :
Besides, didn't Sony have to do a firmware update to fix overheating issues when recording in 4K? Answer: Yes.
You know, some people could have a gift of $1,000,000 tax free dumped in their back yard... and would complain about the paper cut they got while counting it... then say that Rupees would have been better.
Did you really just liken complaining about something you paid for fail to complaining about the form of something given freely?
Come on.
douglaurent said:
No, I was commenting on $itching for $itching's sake.
One complaining and thinking the whole world must be in the same doldrums of despair as oneself is, and that getting something fantastic is cause to worry and fret when there is no fail.
In other words, "There ain't no pony in this pile of manure."
"Reviews didn't mention my particular problem", so there must be a conspiracy.
"Somebody just dumped a million dollars in my back yard and I got a papercut." Somebody must be out to get me. Come on.
Return the got dang camera then. SSSSOOOONNNNYYYY!!!!
Or do your own got dang review explaining your problem instead of $itching that other reviewers didn't mention your problem probably because the reviewer didn't have the problem. Come on!
At least we now all know the whole 5D Mark IV line is all crap and reviewers are leaving out the faults because... there's a conspiracy.
I think the "Fun Fact" part is the problem here: The snarky, snobby, sarcastic, childishness instead of just stating there is a problem with his particular Mark IV is the stupidity.
Then of course "Sony" which had to do a firmware update, which he fails to mention, to fix an overheating problem while recording 4K.
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Interesting..... What were the conditions?douglaurent said:
BTW, I have never had a Canon overheat shooting video, but I did have a 7D2 overheat shooting stills..... It was 38C out and this was after several hours in the sun..... I have had my waterproof P/S overheat, but throw it in the river for 30 seconds and the problem is solved.... ( can't do that with the Canon ) GoPros overheat like crazy, I had to make a sun shield to keep it running.....
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Don Haines said:
Thanks for the info on the GoPro. I've got a Hero3 and all the accessories including a custom case. Have not used it in about two years because it was so buggy.
As slow as I am, Don, I don't need an action cam for my movements anyway. A stills camera does just fine :-[
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Reviewed in different times with different standards. They did lot of work showing differences in IQ between 5D4 vs others without AA filter with respect to aliasing. Showed lot of screen comparisons similar to some one posted here showing aliasing. They actually mentioned AA filter in Cons list initially. When someone pointed out this anomaly which contradicts their own IQ analysis of 5D4, they removed it from cons list. Basically they are pixel peepers. They are kinda agreeing that aliasing is not considered as good IQ. There is a aliasing with king of DR even reduced to 5d4 resolution which they also pointed out. They also removed girl horse riding picture from King of DR as soon as someone pointed out.candyman said:
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Just a little warning, guys.
In Japan, some 5DIV owners found a "little glitch" on the camera.
When you put an Extender EF1.4XIII [or EF2XIII] with no lense on 5DIV,
A battery power consumed very fast with power off. Like approx. 30% per hour.
So far, it only happened very limited situation which is ...
"5DIV with Extender only". So if you're keep your 5DIV like this, don't.
Some people already reported Canon about this glitch, although
Japan is three-days-holiday weekend now.
Offices opens Tuesday so we're gonna have to wait few more days
to receive any answer from Canon.
If you guys never heard of it, I'll let you know what Canon said about it.
In Japan, some 5DIV owners found a "little glitch" on the camera.
When you put an Extender EF1.4XIII [or EF2XIII] with no lense on 5DIV,
A battery power consumed very fast with power off. Like approx. 30% per hour.
So far, it only happened very limited situation which is ...
"5DIV with Extender only". So if you're keep your 5DIV like this, don't.
Some people already reported Canon about this glitch, although
Japan is three-days-holiday weekend now.
Offices opens Tuesday so we're gonna have to wait few more days
to receive any answer from Canon.
If you guys never heard of it, I'll let you know what Canon said about it.
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-The Video guy
About Canon DSLRs overheating. I can tell you that it CAN happen (while liveview is activated). Can here means that it could occur for about 1:10.000 ratio of video shooters. And by the way, the 7D original was the first APS-C (So 535) DSLR that could shoot 24p 1080p. And this camera was the most Canon DSLR ever made prone to overheating. But even with that camera, 2:10.000 ratio would be my estimate as EVERYBODY shot films of it.
Living in Dubai, in the middle eastren desert with temptatures at arout 50 celcius (how much Fehrenheit?). I've shot with the 5D II and 7D I and 550D, from 2 min pieces to continuous 20 day projects with 5-6 hours media on each camers, in the 50 degree temp. And thet're all rigged up in cages (so more heat). All my compitiors do (did - now they're all a7s Log abd when I ask about heat vs Canons (yes after firmware uograde) they say even if it heats up they have bsckups so it's no poblrm unless you'll go out and shoot with one unit. I would noy hesitiste to shoot long video a signle Canon in Dubai, that's the real comparison, it canlt be qualified by numbers due to the incrrdible amout of variables).
In 3 months I've had the A7sII overheat somewhere around 10-15 time under heavy usage. In 5 years, I've seem heat warning on my 7D only (warning not shut) twice under heavy usage. And I've had the 1Dc heat once (in 2 years if ABUSE in desert lands shooting straight 4K for days and days, abuse. Strangely, while I got all the 5D II and 7DI and 1Dc under similar work and abuse, the 5D II was the inly one that never heated. And crazy as it is, it was the favourite clients' video. They love shallow DOF!
Remember, tempretature, rain, sand, dust are all extremelt different down here. A torture test fir any camera. I believe if I had bought and shot the a7SII say in newyork (normal city) I'd have not had overheating issues or at aleast not nearly enough at all to make me sell it.
So Canon 5DII/III is RELIABLE. Shoots in conditions where man cannot stand, and I expect the 5DIV to be MORE reliable if not as good, in all modes especially 4K. Unless it has crazy cleanly samples 1080p (a7sI like) them great HD + DPAF touch + slomotion + short 4k bursts, I'm still buying, but clean a7sI/c100 like HD is not very likely. Strangely enough, the 5DsR manages to produce extrenely detailed HD images and is almost C100 level when sharpened, it's one hell of an image! (Res+colour ). This is all real world shooting of scenes and people not test charts. 5DSR shooters, TRY VIDEO MODE! you'll be absolutely surprised by how crisp and good looking it is. Best internal Canon FF 1080p by far!! 5div may be better no idea, but 1dxII is worse. I wiuld not hesitate to shoot a feature film fir cinema projection with the 5DsR image paired with high quality L glass (35mm II for wides and a 70-200mm 2.8 for the rest) and make people wonder how good the image is (sharp + perfect colours + FF is a pretty sight!!)
Getting off course talking about Canon video (it's where most of my expertise lie, Canon DSLRs video =D)
So everyone: please if you have a 5DIV just keep it rumning video in the hottests room you have. THIS IS IMPORTANT. I will not buy until 5 users run it for hours and have no heating.
And please, could someone share some 1080p 24p frames non graded? Would bd highly appreciated, even mor so if you share the the same grab at 60p and 120p. Just three Joegs from your NLE.
About Canon DSLRs overheating. I can tell you that it CAN happen (while liveview is activated). Can here means that it could occur for about 1:10.000 ratio of video shooters. And by the way, the 7D original was the first APS-C (So 535) DSLR that could shoot 24p 1080p. And this camera was the most Canon DSLR ever made prone to overheating. But even with that camera, 2:10.000 ratio would be my estimate as EVERYBODY shot films of it.
Living in Dubai, in the middle eastren desert with temptatures at arout 50 celcius (how much Fehrenheit?). I've shot with the 5D II and 7D I and 550D, from 2 min pieces to continuous 20 day projects with 5-6 hours media on each camers, in the 50 degree temp. And thet're all rigged up in cages (so more heat). All my compitiors do (did - now they're all a7s Log abd when I ask about heat vs Canons (yes after firmware uograde) they say even if it heats up they have bsckups so it's no poblrm unless you'll go out and shoot with one unit. I would noy hesitiste to shoot long video a signle Canon in Dubai, that's the real comparison, it canlt be qualified by numbers due to the incrrdible amout of variables).
In 3 months I've had the A7sII overheat somewhere around 10-15 time under heavy usage. In 5 years, I've seem heat warning on my 7D only (warning not shut) twice under heavy usage. And I've had the 1Dc heat once (in 2 years if ABUSE in desert lands shooting straight 4K for days and days, abuse. Strangely, while I got all the 5D II and 7DI and 1Dc under similar work and abuse, the 5D II was the inly one that never heated. And crazy as it is, it was the favourite clients' video. They love shallow DOF!
Remember, tempretature, rain, sand, dust are all extremelt different down here. A torture test fir any camera. I believe if I had bought and shot the a7SII say in newyork (normal city) I'd have not had overheating issues or at aleast not nearly enough at all to make me sell it.
So Canon 5DII/III is RELIABLE. Shoots in conditions where man cannot stand, and I expect the 5DIV to be MORE reliable if not as good, in all modes especially 4K. Unless it has crazy cleanly samples 1080p (a7sI like) them great HD + DPAF touch + slomotion + short 4k bursts, I'm still buying, but clean a7sI/c100 like HD is not very likely. Strangely enough, the 5DsR manages to produce extrenely detailed HD images and is almost C100 level when sharpened, it's one hell of an image! (Res+colour ). This is all real world shooting of scenes and people not test charts. 5DSR shooters, TRY VIDEO MODE! you'll be absolutely surprised by how crisp and good looking it is. Best internal Canon FF 1080p by far!! 5div may be better no idea, but 1dxII is worse. I wiuld not hesitate to shoot a feature film fir cinema projection with the 5DsR image paired with high quality L glass (35mm II for wides and a 70-200mm 2.8 for the rest) and make people wonder how good the image is (sharp + perfect colours + FF is a pretty sight!!)
Getting off course talking about Canon video (it's where most of my expertise lie, Canon DSLRs video =D)
So everyone: please if you have a 5DIV just keep it rumning video in the hottests room you have. THIS IS IMPORTANT. I will not buy until 5 users run it for hours and have no heating.
And please, could someone share some 1080p 24p frames non graded? Would bd highly appreciated, even mor so if you share the the same grab at 60p and 120p. Just three Joegs from your NLE.
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1. does setting fine picture mode for JPGs also improve fine image detail in 4k video mode?
2. will it continue shooting video even if you bring up 10x zoom?
2. will it continue shooting video even if you bring up 10x zoom?
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douglaurent said:
"Video is, of course, also a big deal. The [SONY] a99 II [announced today] can capture 4K at 100Mbps (using XAVC S) with full sensor read-out and no pixel binning. A Super 35 option is also available, with 1.8x oversampling. A 'Slow and Quick' mode lets users jump between 1 and 120 fps at the push of a button. All of the capture tools you'd expect are available, including zebra patterns, time code, S-Log2 and S-Log3 profiles and [4k - 5D4 only does 1080P over HDMI because supposedly Canon planned the 5D4 a long time ago when 4k HDMI parts did not yet exist, funny though that cameras that come out a year earlier had the arts, it's probably because Canon execs only at the last second agreed to 'dare' allow 4k in a consumer camera, at which point they had already settled on some old chips?? or maybe more market segmentation nonsense] 4:2:2 output over HDMI. [Stills are 8fps at 42MP or 12fps depending upon mode.]"
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