Review - Canon EOS 80D

slclick said:
mdflare said:
lpwphoto said:
Awesome review! I love reading all of Dustin's reviews. They seem to be the most practical reviews I've seen. I was thinking about half way through "Man, if only all of this could be in a 6D2!".

+1 +1 (and no video castration like the 6D line-skipping b*S___)

And for the love of everything the swifel Screen please. Its the biggest loss when coming from a 60D. Its robust, usefull far beyond a gimmick and switched around an awesome display protection.

That gimmick can make or break certain ground level macro shots.

You mean you don't want to get your clothes dirty.
 
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Great review. It may not be the sort of review everyone wants as it mostly compared it to the older Canon's, but as a 70D owner it was right in my alley of the differences between the two, and whilst I quite like my 70D, this does seem to improve those areas I wouldn't mind improving in the 70D, in my case the burst, AF smarts (apparently anyway), and the whole cleaner noise thing. Canon making a big improvement in sensor noise was always one of the big ones I'd need to upgrade from a 70D (having, for other reasons, gone 50 to 60 to 7 to 70) and looks like it's done that.

The price is still a bit high for me to be willing step up though even with the improvements because the 70D is still decent enough given my ability. I'd also need to factor in the price of a couple of new cards too as my current Sandisk Extremes are the 45MB/s ones (plenty for the 70D). Though I'm still way ahead in terms of not splurging for the Extreme Pro 95MB/s ages back when I bought the cards.

I'll say this puts it in that danger region of being impulse bought if I have a bad week or month as retail therapy LOL :D
 
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YuengLinger said:
slclick said:
mdflare said:
lpwphoto said:
Awesome review! I love reading all of Dustin's reviews. They seem to be the most practical reviews I've seen. I was thinking about half way through "Man, if only all of this could be in a 6D2!".

+1 +1 (and no video castration like the 6D line-skipping b*S___)

And for the love of everything the swifel Screen please. Its the biggest loss when coming from a 60D. Its robust, usefull far beyond a gimmick and switched around an awesome display protection.

That gimmick can make or break certain ground level macro shots.

You mean you don't want to get your clothes dirty.

You're talking to the wrong guy. I do ground level macro work in below zero temps, over 100 in mud and dirt and all that. Laying on frozen rivers with a trash bag beneath me and well, you get the picture? I don't appreciate you calling someone out as a wuss here because you can't appreciate a feature that will allow an angle to be achieved during a shot that otherwise would not. I've laid on the ground countless times getting my clothes dirty while nearly breaking my neck to get shots. Yeah, an articulating screen on a weather sealed FF body would be awesome. YMMV.
 
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dilbert said:
YuengLinger said:
slclick said:
mdflare said:
lpwphoto said:
Awesome review! I love reading all of Dustin's reviews. They seem to be the most practical reviews I've seen. I was thinking about half way through "Man, if only all of this could be in a 6D2!".

+1 +1 (and no video castration like the 6D line-skipping b*S___)

And for the love of everything the swifel Screen please. Its the biggest loss when coming from a 60D. Its robust, usefull far beyond a gimmick and switched around an awesome display protection.

That gimmick can make or break certain ground level macro shots.

You mean you don't want to get your clothes dirty.

I think it is very reasonable to not want to get your clothes dirty or wet.

I've been out on photo shoots where I had to make this choice: use MILC + swivel and stay clean or use DSLR and get covered in mud. I chose MILC and clean over getting covered in mud.

I don't have a MILC, so I've always kept a bin bag in the camera bag. Lightweight, small when folded, but big enough for me to kneel down and crouch over...
 
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Stu_bert said:
dilbert said:
YuengLinger said:
slclick said:
mdflare said:
lpwphoto said:
Awesome review! I love reading all of Dustin's reviews. They seem to be the most practical reviews I've seen. I was thinking about half way through "Man, if only all of this could be in a 6D2!".

+1 +1 (and no video castration like the 6D line-skipping b*S___)

And for the love of everything the swifel Screen please. Its the biggest loss when coming from a 60D. Its robust, usefull far beyond a gimmick and switched around an awesome display protection.

That gimmick can make or break certain ground level macro shots.

You mean you don't want to get your clothes dirty.

I think it is very reasonable to not want to get your clothes dirty or wet.

I've been out on photo shoots where I had to make this choice: use MILC + swivel and stay clean or use DSLR and get covered in mud. I chose MILC and clean over getting covered in mud.

I don't have a MILC, so I've always kept a bin bag in the camera bag. Lightweight, small when folded, but big enough for me to kneel down and crouch over...
Last week I was taking documentation pictures of a field trial, including the setups in several vans. In cramped quarters a tilt-swivel screen is VERY!!!!!!!!!!!!! useful. I got so frustrated that I gave up on shooting for the day and came in the next day with my 60D and remote from home.
 
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I so disagree, not sure what the fuzz is about,had it for two days, laughed and gave it back .. this camera has a horrible autofocus, way worse than my 5d3 .. the movie focus so so ..it does everything and everything mediocre ... it is a beginner camera for everything that is slow moving .. yes it will make smart phone shooters happy, but photographers .. never ..
 
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Don Haines said:
Stu_bert said:
dilbert said:
YuengLinger said:
slclick said:
mdflare said:
lpwphoto said:
Awesome review! I love reading all of Dustin's reviews. They seem to be the most practical reviews I've seen. I was thinking about half way through "Man, if only all of this could be in a 6D2!".

+1 +1 (and no video castration like the 6D line-skipping b*S___)

And for the love of everything the swifel Screen please. Its the biggest loss when coming from a 60D. Its robust, usefull far beyond a gimmick and switched around an awesome display protection.

That gimmick can make or break certain ground level macro shots.

You mean you don't want to get your clothes dirty.

I think it is very reasonable to not want to get your clothes dirty or wet.

I've been out on photo shoots where I had to make this choice: use MILC + swivel and stay clean or use DSLR and get covered in mud. I chose MILC and clean over getting covered in mud.

I don't have a MILC, so I've always kept a bin bag in the camera bag. Lightweight, small when folded, but big enough for me to kneel down and crouch over...
Last week I was taking documentation pictures of a field trial, including the setups in several vans. In cramped quarters a tilt-swivel screen is VERY!!!!!!!!!!!!! useful. I got so frustrated that I gave up on shooting for the day and came in the next day with my 60D and remote from home.

I wasnt suggesting they weren't Don, and when I once had my tripod at 8' tall without having any steps with me, I would have indeed found one useful.

I used to have a Coolpix 900 or was it the 950 with a swivel body and a massive 2MP. I loved that you could position it like a top down viewfinder...

But, I have neither of those now, so I improvise :P

In film days I used to invert the tripod head for low shots.. I rarely bother now, and just use the plastic to grovel

And if it's likely to be really wet & I need to do that sort of stuff I use waterproofs. Horses for courses. :D

Actually having said I would find it useful, can you articulate the screen down towards the ground?
 
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Stu_bert said:
Actually having said I would find it useful, can you articulate the screen down towards the ground?
Yes, you can aim it at the ground. The 60D screen could be seen from front or back, left or right, top or bottom, when used in landscape or portrait orientation.....
 
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slclick said:
YuengLinger said:
slclick said:
mdflare said:
lpwphoto said:
Awesome review! I love reading all of Dustin's reviews. They seem to be the most practical reviews I've seen. I was thinking about half way through "Man, if only all of this could be in a 6D2!".

+1 +1 (and no video castration like the 6D line-skipping b*S___)

And for the love of everything the swifel Screen please. Its the biggest loss when coming from a 60D. Its robust, usefull far beyond a gimmick and switched around an awesome display protection.

That gimmick can make or break certain ground level macro shots.

You mean you don't want to get your clothes dirty.

You're talking to the wrong guy. I do ground level macro work in below zero temps, over 100 in mud and dirt and all that. Laying on frozen rivers with a trash bag beneath me and well, you get the picture? I don't appreciate you calling someone out as a wuss here because you can't appreciate a feature that will allow an angle to be achieved during a shot that otherwise would not. I've laid on the ground countless times getting my clothes dirty while nearly breaking my neck to get shots. Yeah, an articulating screen on a weather sealed FF body would be awesome. YMMV.

Oh, yeah? I've been on my belly in the molten nickel of Mercury and the methane slush of Neptune--while wearing a torn spacesuit. And through all that, my flippin' sense of humor, for better or worse, survived somehow. ::)

(Get it? Flippin'...flip screen...Just want to make sure!)
 
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YuengLinger said:
slclick said:
YuengLinger said:
slclick said:
mdflare said:
lpwphoto said:
Awesome review! I love reading all of Dustin's reviews. They seem to be the most practical reviews I've seen. I was thinking about half way through "Man, if only all of this could be in a 6D2!".

+1 +1 (and no video castration like the 6D line-skipping b*S___)

And for the love of everything the swifel Screen please. Its the biggest loss when coming from a 60D. Its robust, usefull far beyond a gimmick and switched around an awesome display protection.

That gimmick can make or break certain ground level macro shots.

You mean you don't want to get your clothes dirty.

You're talking to the wrong guy. I do ground level macro work in below zero temps, over 100 in mud and dirt and all that. Laying on frozen rivers with a trash bag beneath me and well, you get the picture? I don't appreciate you calling someone out as a wuss here because you can't appreciate a feature that will allow an angle to be achieved during a shot that otherwise would not. I've laid on the ground countless times getting my clothes dirty while nearly breaking my neck to get shots. Yeah, an articulating screen on a weather sealed FF body would be awesome. YMMV.

Oh, yeah? I've been on my belly in the molten nickel of Mercury and the methane slush of Neptune--while wearing a torn spacesuit. And through all that, my flippin' sense of humor, for better or worse, survived somehow. ::)

(Get it? Flippin'...flip screen...Just want to make sure!)

You win!
 
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dilbert said:
Don Haines said:
Stu_bert said:
And if it's likely to be really wet & I need to do that sort of stuff I use waterproofs. Horses for courses.

Same here! There is a lot to be said for using the right tool for the job....

That assumes you now what the conditions are going to be like before you get there ...
please read the above before commenting.....

"If it is likely to be really wet" usually means that one knows that it is likely to be really wet.....

I am heading out in my canoe today to photograph loons, the weather forecast is partially sunny with showers. I bring my Canon and lenses in a pelican case and a waterproof P/S in the pocket of my PFD so that I can shoot in the rain. I also carry a complete change of clothes in a dry bag and an umbrella. I have no guarantee as to what will happen, but it never hurts to be prepared.
 
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Dustin, I'll chime in and also say thanks for a very thorough review. Sometimes, though, it sounds so wonderful that in a few parts I thought I was reading a very slick sales pitch. I'm sure this speaks to the excellence of the camera!

I was toying with the idea of mirrorless, but this looks like a smarter body for me, as I already have lenses and would like to have a solid APS-C for my 100-400mm II. I could kind of justify it with the video features, as my wife wants to have something for home movies of the babies. :P

However, I don't imagine it would be easy for somebody not familiar with dSLR's (i.e. my wife) to use for vids of kids...
 
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YuengLinger said:
I was toying with the idea of mirrorless, but this looks like a smarter body for me, as I already have lenses and would like to have a solid APS-C for my 100-400mm II. I could kind of justify it with the video features, as my wife wants to have something for home movies of the babies. :P

However, I don't imagine it would be easy for somebody not familiar with dSLR's (i.e. my wife) to use for vids of kids...
Just put a 24mm F2.8 IS in 80D, and his wife can not go wrong the videos of babies. It would be good to avoid tele lenses, so that it does not disturb with excessively shallow DOF.

In fact, Canon 18-55mm STM makes great home videos, if the ambient light is not too weak.
 
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ajfotofilmagem said:
YuengLinger said:
I was toying with the idea of mirrorless, but this looks like a smarter body for me, as I already have lenses and would like to have a solid APS-C for my 100-400mm II. I could kind of justify it with the video features, as my wife wants to have something for home movies of the babies. :P

However, I don't imagine it would be easy for somebody not familiar with dSLR's (i.e. my wife) to use for vids of kids...
Just put a 24mm F2.8 IS in 80D, and his wife can not go wrong the videos of babies. It would be good to avoid tele lenses, so that it does not disturb with excessively shallow DOF.

In fact, Canon 18-55mm STM makes great home videos, if the ambient light is not too weak.

Tempting suggestion!
 
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dilbert said:
Don Haines said:
Stu_bert said:
And if it's likely to be really wet & I need to do that sort of stuff I use waterproofs. Horses for courses.

Same here! There is a lot to be said for using the right tool for the job....

That assumes you now what the conditions are going to be like before you get there ...


Even when I travel abroad, I have a good idea of the likely weather for that period, and pack accordingly. During the day, again, I have a good idea of the weather, sunrise/sunset, high/low tide. Research and preparation are the mainstay of any trip...

And when I am looking for inclement weather, then I act accordingly.

Ever been caught out by wrong forecasts? Sure I have, but I normally have enough with me to adapt / improvise, and for me thats the best I can do - especially when abroad. If the weather changes more or longer than expected then that's why I bring a credit card with me, or sufficient foreign funds ;D

To be honest, if I really wanted a shot and I was caught out, then I get wet / muddy and use the towel which is normally in the vehicle.

Nothing is perfect - horses for courses...
 
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hne said:
Adelino said:
PLEASE make the 6DII just like the 80D.

...except with a joystick for af selection.

No chance. (Unfortunately) Canon are using that feature as one of the differentiation features between the "top tier" cameras and the "mid range". I am pretty sure we can see the 6D range losing the user interchangeable screen next time round too, and the 5D series gain it again, to be in line with the 80D / 7DII.

The lack of joystick is one of the reasons I sold my 6D and have kept the 5DII. At this stage I'm not sure if I'll add a 5DIII / s / IV as I'm finding that due to the continual improvement of crop I'm now using the FF camera as I used to use (film) MF, and the crop as I used to use 35 mm.
 
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