Review: Canon EOS M5: \

[Canon Rumors]

<em>“Easily the best “M” so far!”</em></p>
<p>Bryan at The-Digital-Picture has completed his review of the Canon EOS M5 mirrorless camera.</p>
<p><strong>From TDP</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>If you have been waiting to jump into a Canon MILC and an APS-C sensor format works for you, the EOS M5 is a great choice.</p>
<p>While one may feel a tendency to treat a camera of this size as a point and shoot model, using it only for those still-important snapshot opportunities that pop up (it works extremely well for these opportunities) would mean grievously underutilizing a highly-capable camera. The M5 has great image quality, an excellent AF system (intelligent, quickly controllable and good speed) and an impressive set of features and controls. <a href="http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-M5.aspx">Read the full review</a></p></blockquote>
<p>We have yet to use the EOS M5, but I have put one order after reading Bryan’s review and I look forward to actually enjoying the EOS M system for the first time.</p>
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[benkam]

“Easily the best “M” so far!”

Would've sucked if it wasn't so.

The M5 was initially as seen the mirrorless 80D but now it's probably more accurate to consider it the mirrorless 77D, being also not a weather sealed body, having a smaller battery and no headphone jack, among others.

Good step forward for Canon and also looking forward to seeing the actual mirrorless equivalent of the 80D or a leap-frog to a ML "90D", and maybe even the 7D-series. Also, very interested in the mirrorless version of the future 6D Mark II.

 

[CosminD]

without a weather sealed body , dual cards and a decent battery no pro would use it (except for vacations maybe)

 

[tallrob]

The best M so far isn't saying much. Besides, wasn't the M6 just announced?

 

[Tom W]

With the 22 f/2 M lens, it's a nice small package. Could use a larger lens lineup though. Thinking 10, 16, 22, 32, 50 mm primes, all reasonably fast, small, and not too expensive.

 

[Loswr]

without a weather sealed body , dual cards and a decent battery no pro would use it (except for vacations maybe)

Yeah, the 5DII had marginal weather sealing and one CF slot which is why no pros ever used them and none are using them today.

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[goldenhusky]

without a weather sealed body , dual cards and a decent battery no pro would use it (except for vacations maybe)

Yeah, the 5DII had marginal weather sealing and one CF slot which is why no pros ever used them and none are using them today.

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True, but that was almost a decade ago and I doubt if there was another choice. If I get paid to shoot at this day and age I wouldn't shoot with a camera that has only one card slot. There is nothing embarrassing than telling the client who paid that I lost all their precious moments because a memory card failed and not to mention the damage to the reputation. Yes one memory card had failed on me in the past and I did loose some of my own pictures. I do not shoot for money. All pictures I lost were of my own family. So that was OK.

 

[infared]

TDP is so Canon kiss-ass. It takes away from the credibility of the website and all the good work he does.
Fact: Canon's mirrorless lags far behind in that segment. Far behind. Simply wording a review in this manner is like propaganda and misleading.

 

[AlanF]

TDP is so Canon kiss-ass. It takes away from the credibility of the website and all the good work he does.
Fact: Canon's mirrorless lags far behind in that segment. Far behind. Simply wording a review in this manner is like propaganda and misleading.

dpreviews is Canon's kick ass but gives the M5 near rave reviews and a silver star. Are they also losing credibility?

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-m5-review

 

[slclick]

TDP is so Canon kiss-ass. It takes away from the credibility of the website and all the good work he does.
Fact: Canon's mirrorless lags far behind in that segment. Far behind. Simply wording a review in this manner is like propaganda and misleading.

There are Nikon biased sites and Canon and Sony etc etc. What is the big surprise here?

I'd love for someone to name a site with as complete information, specs, comparison tools, recommendations, real world reviews and written as well as Bryan's which covers all the major players equally. Yeah I thought so. (Although I could sometimes wish he had never added Setters)

 

[-1]

without a weather sealed body , dual cards and a decent battery no pro would use it (except for vacations maybe)

No. That's what the M7 is for... With those fast weather sealed "Blueline" primes made available simultaneously! )

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

I stopped at our local camera store two days ago, but they had no M5, nor any of the M models. They had all the Canon DSLR's and most, if not all the Nikon ones (No 1 series or D5). Sony models were pretty well missing, they had just one, a A7S, I believe. It looked like they were abandoning Sony, because they had no interchangeable lenses either, they used to give Sony equal space to Canon and Nikon and had lots of lenses and accessories. I think that what I saw depicts the state of the camera industry, devastated and really tough for the smaller companies. There are a couple more camera stores that carry the high end models,

I may go to them if the snow and ice ever relent. I spent three days(so far) trying to get my sons wheel and tire replaced, that's a nightmare of a story.

 

[ozwineguy]

I just got one. My main camera is a 5Ds, with a bunch of L glass that I've slowly accumulated. I've recently been doing some events, so wanted a second body, but wanted a light one with more FPS. Considered a 7D II, but also really liked the idea of being able to throw this into just about any bag, and also having a smaller camera with built-in flash for shots of our kids. I've only had it a little while, with the 22mm f2, but really like it so far. Sure, it's not up to the standard of mirrorless cameras from others, but it works with my existing lenses, and makes it really easy to carry anywhere.

Downsides are getting used to a different interface (just a matter of time, really) and very limited lenses for those days when I just chuck it in my bag. I mean, even a constant aperture f4 zoom with vaguely decent range would have me sorted. The 18-150mm is tempting, though, as is the 28mm macro, just for everyday carry. Then I'd have a low(ish) light lens with the 22mm, macro and standard with the 28mm, and the 18-150 for everything else, plus all my other lenses when I'm carrying the full kit.

 

[docsmith]

I stopped at our local camera store two days ago, but they had no M5, nor any of the M models. They had all the Canon DSLR's and most, if not all the Nikon ones (No 1 series or D5). Sony models were pretty well missing, they had just one, a A7S, I believe. It looked like they were abandoning Sony, because they had no interchangeable lenses either, they used to give Sony equal space to Canon and Nikon and had lots of lenses and accessories. I think that what I saw depicts the state of the camera industry, devastated and really tough for the smaller companies. There are a couple more camera stores that carry the high end models,

I may go to them if the snow and ice ever relent. I spent three days(so far) trying to get my sons wheel and tire replaced, that's a nightmare of a story.

Sorry to hear about the snow and ice. I was without power on Spokane's south hill for a couple of days during an ice storm, if I recall, '96 or '97.

What you described is what I am seeing. I am looking for a pocketable camera, I am shocked at the number of Best Buy's, Walmarts, and Targets that used to have a nice array of cameras that now have next to nothing. I finally found 2 Best Buys, one on a business trip, the other ~50 miles away. But, there is little doubt that the big box retailers have moved on.

As for TDP review, the M5 is being pretty universally praised. If anything, they are just confirming what others are saying. The first positive review I saw was from Nikon lovin' Kai himself. Then dpreview. I actually haven't seen a bad review yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhHpV0kc7as

 

[rajdude]

Canon needs to wake up to the reality that this camera is years behind the curve. It is year 2017, everyone is buying a 4K TV, we have the capability to enjoy 4K, so why would I go without 4K home videos for years when I can have it for the same price?

I am buying a Sony a6300 instead.

I have spent a long time with both cameras (in a store), to be fair, the M5 is really, really good especially the touchscreen.........but the M lenses looks like cheap plastic toys. and no 4K? Come on Canon!

 

[privatebydesign]

Canon needs to wake up to the reality that this camera is years behind the curve. It is year 2017, everyone is buying a 4K TV, we have the capability to enjoy 4K, so why would I go without 4K home videos for years when I can have it for the same price?

I am buying a Sony a6300 instead.

I have spent a long time with both cameras (in a store), to be fair, the M5 is really, really good especially the touchscreen.........but the M lenses looks like cheap plastic toys. and no 4K? Come on Canon!

From my experience with having owned a 70" 4K TV for a year, 4K is vastly overrated at this point. 1080 scaled, automatically by the TV, is so close as to be indistinguishable most of the time. Besides, good 1080 has been shown many times to be higher quality than modest 4K footage.

The only people that benefit from 4K capture at this time are people interested in future proofing their footage. 'Everybody' might be shooting 4K, you just can't deliver it unless you go blue ray. There are possibly 20 titles of actual programes on Netflix in 4K, the internet can't deliver it at 99% of USA households.

 

[Bernard]

Thing is, over-compressed 4K footage looks awful. HD with a decent bit rate and codec (which this camera offers) looks much better.

Sure, you could always attach an external recorder to get clean 4k, but those cost more than the camera. It's not something that many consumers would do.

 

[Loswr]

Canon needs to wake up to the reality that this camera is years behind the curve. It is year 2017, everyone is buying a 4K TV, we have the capability to enjoy 4K, so why would I go without 4K home videos for years when I can have it for the same price?

I am buying a Sony a6300 instead.

You need to wake up to the reality that your needs and wants don't necessarily represent those of the global market.

Enjoy your a6300 (and hope you never need to have it serviced, but hey, if you do Precision Camera should fix it for you in a few weeks...or months...).

 

[TWI by Dustin Abbott]

Canon needs to wake up to the reality that this camera is years behind the curve. It is year 2017, everyone is buying a 4K TV, we have the capability to enjoy 4K, so why would I go without 4K home videos for years when I can have it for the same price?

I am buying a Sony a6300 instead.

You need to wake up to the reality that your needs and wants don't necessarily represent those of the global market.

Enjoy your a6300 (and hope you never need to have it serviced, but hey, if you do Precision Camera should fix it for you in a few weeks...or months...).

I agree, Neuro. I sold my M3 several months ago before I reviewed the M5 in expectations that I'd probably just snap one up. Most of of you saw my review of the M5 and its pros and cons, but overall I like the camera, but...I am shooting a lot of my YouTube reviews in 4K now (5D IV) and then downsampling them to 1080P. I get a cleaner finished product plus the option to crop in a lossless fashion. So, I haven't just snapped up a M5 for myself. I looked at the Sony options, and Panasonic, and Fuji...and, well, I still don't have any mirrorless body right now. All of them have major shortcomings. Sony finally has a touchscreen on the a6500, but it is terrible. The physical controls aren't nearly as good as the M5, and the video tracking isn't on par with DPAF. My lens collection isn't designed around M43, so I'm loathe to buy into Panasonic.

There is no perfect option right now, and, in many ways, the M5 is one of the best all around options. It just lacks some major features and has at least one major ergonomic issue (impingement of the tilt screen by just about anything).

 

[LDS]

without a weather sealed body , dual cards and a decent battery no pro would use it (except for vacations maybe)

If you believe that every "pro" only shoots with large, bulky cameras with multiple cards you could be surprised it isn't true.

Sure, there are situations when it's difficult (and risky) to renounce to a second card (and even a backup body...), or weather sealing, others where a small, inconspicuous yet capable camera is exactly what you need. Bigger (and heavier) is not always better.