Sell non L primes to get 24-70LII

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Hey Wildmudflowers,

I shoot more weddings than anything, and though I do not own the 24-70ii, I rented it for a wedding a couple of weeks ago just to try it out. This lens was prenominal, and was used for more pics than the 17-40, 35L, 50L, or 70-200ii, however, it was primarily used on my crop frame 60D rather than the 5Dii. This may just be my style, but the big tele came in handy more often for my ff. My 2c, rent one or both and try them out. I also rented the 50L, and was not deeply impressed, and though I may buy it eventually, I am not as excited to buy it as I was previously.

If you would rather buy before you try then the 24-70ii is one of the best lenses I have ever used, and I think you will be very happy with it for your events. I would sell anything you can reasonably justify.

Cheers,
-Tabor
 
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Personally - if you "have" to sell all that gear to get the 24-70 II then you can't afford it :-/

The 24-70 II is a great lens with great focal length flexibility, but without a camera that's exceptional in dark conditions - read 6D, 5D3, 1DX - you may struggle with low light images - check how many of your favourites are below f2.8 before making any change
 
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hi wildmudflowers, sounds like you want to have it and try to find arguments (and cash). am not a pro by any means, but gave myself the lens as a birthday present couple of weeks ago. And since I feel I wastetd too much of my time on my 24-105 for the past 7 years. It might be, that later versions of that may be better than my original copy that came bundled with my 5D classic, but IQ wise the latest 24-70 is out of this world. Go test one, and be ready to just wanting it so much more..
Have fun
drolo
 
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pwp said:
I still find the 24-105 very useful for events. In low light the IS is often more valuable than the f/2.8 max aperture of the 24-70II, and the extra reach is very, very useful.

FWIW I couldn't function at events work without the 70-200 f/2.8IIis. I run the 24-105 on a 5D3 body with 580exII and the 70-200 on a 1D4 body also with 580EXII. Often my best shots will be candids shot with the 70-200.

-PW

I think this sums up what I was trying to say more clearly. I don't mean to dissuade you from the lens. It's a great lens. but I agree if you're shooting events, the 70-200 would be my first pick. Why the need to to upgrade from the 24-105? zoom creep can be fixed with a $5 lens band. 70-200 IS II is also "faster, sharper, and shallower"
 
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I'm sure the 70-200 is great. But I don't need it. I'm too lazy to carry it.
I'f I had to pick one lens to use forever it would probably be the 35l. But thats to impractical of a purchase for right now.
NO event client of mine would justify all that equipment. I all ways have full acess to everything and dont need to discreetly get shots. For a headshot I just see my self ever needing more that 135mm, but even if it was I wouldn't want to use it unless I was getting paid well. If its a personal project, 85mm is long enough for me.

AudioGlenn said:
pwp said:
I still find the 24-105 very useful for events. In low light the IS is often more valuable than the f/2.8 max aperture of the 24-70II, and the extra reach is very, very useful.

FWIW I couldn't function at events work without the 70-200 f/2.8IIis. I run the 24-105 on a 5D3 body with 580exII and the 70-200 on a 1D4 body also with 580EXII. Often my best shots will be candids shot with the 70-200.

-PW

I think this sums up what I was trying to say more clearly. I don't mean to dissuade you from the lens. It's a great lens. but I agree if you're shooting events, the 70-200 would be my first pick. Why the need to to upgrade from the 24-105? zoom creep can be fixed with a $5 lens band. 70-200 IS II is also "faster, sharper, and shallower"
 
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That's amazing. I had no idea it was such a quick fix. I thought I needed to take my lens to the repair shop and spend a bunch of money to get it fixed.
I hate the zoom creep. Thats my number 1 pet peeve while working.

What $5 band?


AudioGlenn said:
pwp said:
I still find the 24-105 very useful for events. In low light the IS is often more valuable than the f/2.8 max aperture of the 24-70II, and the extra reach is very, very useful.

FWIW I couldn't function at events work without the 70-200 f/2.8IIis. I run the 24-105 on a 5D3 body with 580exII and the 70-200 on a 1D4 body also with 580EXII. Often my best shots will be candids shot with the 70-200.

-PW

I think this sums up what I was trying to say more clearly. I don't mean to dissuade you from the lens. It's a great lens. but I agree if you're shooting events, the 70-200 would be my first pick. Why the need to to upgrade from the 24-105? zoom creep can be fixed with a $5 lens band. 70-200 IS II is also "faster, sharper, and shallower"
 
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The great thing about the 24-70II is that it is sharp across all apertures - and you can't say that for any of your existing lenses. In fact, I doubt of one of your existing lenses can compare to the 24-70 at f2.8 - you would probably have to stop down to f4 or f5.6 to get sharpness - but not on the 24-70II. For me that is what it is all about. I can choose the aperture I want for the DOF I need as opposed to trading off sharpness (or lack thereof) for DOF.

So unless you are shooting in very, very dark places the 24-70 at 2.8 will do everything you need it to do while giving you pinsharp images. Can't ask for any better.
 
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/834030-REG/LENSBAND_628586557901_Lens_Band_Black.html

wildmudflowers said:
That's amazing. I had no idea it was such a quick fix. I thought I needed to take my lens to the repair shop and spend a bunch of money to get it fixed.
I hate the zoom creep. Thats my number 1 pet peeve while working.

What $5 band?


AudioGlenn said:
pwp said:
I still find the 24-105 very useful for events. In low light the IS is often more valuable than the f/2.8 max aperture of the 24-70II, and the extra reach is very, very useful.

FWIW I couldn't function at events work without the 70-200 f/2.8IIis. I run the 24-105 on a 5D3 body with 580exII and the 70-200 on a 1D4 body also with 580EXII. Often my best shots will be candids shot with the 70-200.

-PW

I think this sums up what I was trying to say more clearly. I don't mean to dissuade you from the lens. It's a great lens. but I agree if you're shooting events, the 70-200 would be my first pick. Why the need to to upgrade from the 24-105? zoom creep can be fixed with a $5 lens band. 70-200 IS II is also "faster, sharper, and shallower"
 
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There's a link to the item from B&H (in my last reply).

the lens band proved to be more than a quick band-aid fix for me when I owned the 24-105. I used it in a way that way that was half on the barrel and half on the zoom ring and it gave a nice resistance to the zoom after a little bit of a break in period. loved it. it made it feel like new again. I'd try that first if you're relatively happy with the IQ of that lens.

personally, I didn't like my 50 1.4 between f/1.4-2.6 so I decided to sell it and put the $ towards the 24-70 II. If you're using the 24-105 at f/4 all the time, i think you'll be super happy with the 24-70 at f/2.8. It's quite a bit sharper wide open. I found I used my 24-105 more between 70-105 which I why I actually got the 70-200 2.8 first.

sounds like you got a good plan in your head based on what you want. I say go for it.
 
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Haydn1971 said:
Personally - if you "have" to sell all that gear to get the 24-70 II then you can't afford it :-/

The 24-70 II is a great lens with great focal length flexibility, but without a camera that's exceptional in dark conditions - read 6D, 5D3, 1DX - you may struggle with low light images - check how many of your favourites are below f2.8 before making any change

every lens I've ever purchased was done so with the eventual intent to sell it. look at my signature... I go through lenses and bodies like condoms... well when I was in college....

someone tried to convince me the 18-200 was all the lens I would ever need... and I tried to convince then they were stupid. yes, our gear is redundant, so when you get new gear, some old gear will be sacrificed to non use.
 
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jdramirez said:
Haydn1971 said:
Personally - if you "have" to sell all that gear to get the 24-70 II then you can't afford it :-/

The 24-70 II is a great lens with great focal length flexibility, but without a camera that's exceptional in dark conditions - read 6D, 5D3, 1DX - you may struggle with low light images - check how many of your favourites are below f2.8 before making any change

every lens I've ever purchased was done so with the eventual intent to sell it. look at my signature... I go through lenses and bodies like condoms... well when I was in college....

someone tried to convince me the 18-200 was all the lens I would ever need... and I tried to convince then they were stupid. yes, our gear is redundant, so when you get new gear, some old gear will be sacrificed to non use.

+1
 
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Grumbaki said:
We get one topic like this per week. "should i sell my x/y/z to get the new 24-70L" Maybe there should be a sticky "Get it if you can really afford it, it rules". With an Oprah gif saying ëverybody gets a 24-70.

that is where I most contribute, because I love to spend other people's money.

and honestly, if it helps someone make s right decision or they feel more comfortable with their decision, then I am glad to have helpedeven if it is redundant.
 
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jdramirez said:
Grumbaki said:
We get one topic like this per week. "should i sell my x/y/z to get the new 24-70L" Maybe there should be a sticky "Get it if you can really afford it, it rules". With an Oprah gif saying ëverybody gets a 24-70.

that is where I most contribute, because I love to spend other people's money.

and honestly, if it helps someone make s right decision or they feel more comfortable with their decision, then I am glad to have helpedeven if it is redundant.

I too am ok with helping people feel better about their purchase as long as it's the right purchase for their needs.
 
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I'm bothered by depreciation, or I guess I should say, prices. I'm not in a rush to buy, I'm fairly certain that there will be a sale this august on the 5d3 etc. With that camera and the 24-70 2.8 I think I can save $400 combined by waiting 2-3 months. I'll probably wait until christmas for the 5d3 and get a new lens this summer.

THanks for all your comments. I think I'm going to get the lens. I'm just debating on weather or not I should sell the 50mm 1.4

It's nice to have a lightweight backup lens like that.
 
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