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I've already dumped the garbage G12 and my new Nex7 is on order. Canon have lost me in the section of the market, and with the lack of EOS 1Ds news they may well loose me altogether now.
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-zero- said:So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
ouch, did it break?
(sory I couldn't resist )
DavidRiesenberg said:The spec list looks great but something is iffy with the sample shots. They look too processed. Like they use too much NR and sharpening. At first I thought it is just sloppy job on dpreview's part but imaging-resource shows the same thing.
Fleetie said:So, if the A77 has a purely electronic viewfinder, what's the mirror there for?
Just for the AF system? And if so, why is it half-silvered and not fully-silvered?
Thanks,
Martin
but the mirror is down on an SLR when you change lenses anyway. i mean i look at the pictures of their SLT bodies and I see similar gaps on the side and bottom to SLRs that dust would go through. or is their SLT design more airtight in ways that aren't readily apparent? what would annoy me is that there'd now be two surfaces which affect image quality that can collect dust instead of just one. it's annoying enough to clean a sensor let alone also have to worry about a mirror.NormanBates said:this means you lose 1/3 stop of light on the sensor; but it also means it's much more difficult for dust to get to your sensor (eventually, it will get there, and it will be more difficult to get rid of it, but that probably will take longer than the camera will stay with me; in the meantime, I'll be much less worried when changing lenses in a windy day in the countryside: the mirror is much easier to clean than the sensor)
Zerg2905 said:After the Walkman there was someting that made Sony genius(es) scratch its (their) head (heads): it's called iPod; followed by iPhone; followed by iPad; followed by...
Sony might be the "800 pound electronics industry gorilla" (to quote The Luminous Lanscape article) but let's say that in photo, serious photo, they are not quite there yet. And they need not just one innovation, but a few dozens more.
My point is not to drop your current C or N gear just yet. If you think that the two old crows (Canon & Nikon) cannot make a "wundercamera" you are quite wrong. They can. But it is not a matter of possibility & tech, but of price; you cannot have a 36 MP FF shooting at 20 FPS and at ISO 102000 or more and filming in FULL HD (or maybe not, 21:9 or 2560/1080 will do great too - ouch, it was Philips that implemented that first hand and not Sony, right?...) for 2000 USD...
CANON EOS 1V (35 mm film SLR) was able to shoot at 10 FPS FF. A decade ago; with 45 AF points etc, tank-like construction etc; NIKON F6 - a monster camera; again, just think about price - here is the real war.
Cheers.
Z.
dr croubie said:So it's APS-C, and $1400, so going to compete against the 7D basically.
24MP vs 18MP win.
12fps vs 8fps win (even beating the 1D4 there).
GPS vs none win (but lose if you don't care and can't switch it off to save battery life).
50/60fps 1080p video win. (but only 28MBPS, up from 24MBPS in 24/25fps? more compression = bad?)
19pt AF/11cross vs 19pt/19cross lose (just on numbers, we'll see how well it works later).
In camera-panorama win if you like it, don't care if you'd rather stitch in-PC
Sensor-based IS win for old lenses, lose for battery life and heat.
ISO 50-25,600 (I always remember a TDP quote, just because you can, doesn't mean you should).
Selectable ISO range in AutoISO win (my mum's 6-year old IST *DL can, 550D too, why can't my 7D?)
5-frame AE bracketing win.
1200-zone metering win? 7D is 63-zone in viewfinder, not sure about in live-view.
30-1/8000s, 1/250s flash same.
Flash GN 12 (i think 7D is GN15?)
Buffer 13 JPG shots big lose (maybe blame the SD card?)
Battery life 400 shots viewfinder lose (7D is 1000 shots i believe).
Electronic viewfinder lose for me, battery life and dark-tracking main reasons. Depends if it's worth the extra 12FPS to you.
Ergonomics are always personal, and you'll learn to use what you've got after a few months. Personally, i'm sticking with my 7D. But yay for Sony, hopefully it's lit a fire under their 7Dmk2 development team, I expect nothing less that 28MP 9FPS 25ptAF for $1500 now.
awinphoto said:dr croubie said:So it's APS-C, and $1400, so going to compete against the 7D basically.
24MP vs 18MP win.
12fps vs 8fps win (even beating the 1D4 there).
GPS vs none win (but lose if you don't care and can't switch it off to save battery life).
50/60fps 1080p video win. (but only 28MBPS, up from 24MBPS in 24/25fps? more compression = bad?)
19pt AF/11cross vs 19pt/19cross lose (just on numbers, we'll see how well it works later).
In camera-panorama win if you like it, don't care if you'd rather stitch in-PC
Sensor-based IS win for old lenses, lose for battery life and heat.
ISO 50-25,600 (I always remember a TDP quote, just because you can, doesn't mean you should).
Selectable ISO range in AutoISO win (my mum's 6-year old IST *DL can, 550D too, why can't my 7D?)
5-frame AE bracketing win.
1200-zone metering win? 7D is 63-zone in viewfinder, not sure about in live-view.
30-1/8000s, 1/250s flash same.
Flash GN 12 (i think 7D is GN15?)
Buffer 13 JPG shots big lose (maybe blame the SD card?)
Battery life 400 shots viewfinder lose (7D is 1000 shots i believe).
Electronic viewfinder lose for me, battery life and dark-tracking main reasons. Depends if it's worth the extra 12FPS to you.
Ergonomics are always personal, and you'll learn to use what you've got after a few months. Personally, i'm sticking with my 7D. But yay for Sony, hopefully it's lit a fire under their 7Dmk2 development team, I expect nothing less that 28MP 9FPS 25ptAF for $1500 now.
Keep dreaming with your 7d2 expectations... We still need to see IF the 24mp vs 18mp is truely a win if the image looks like crap. Also can the 12FPS keep up with the AF and lock focus or does it just shoot a burst without AF change? GPS i dont care about and 19 pt AF is where it should be... Other than that, no level, no flash commander... the 7d still shines on.
Canon 14-24 said:next is a nex9 full frame with a couple pancake primes at a third of the price of a m9?!