Some Canon EOS 6D Mark II Talk [CR2]

[testthewest]

Sounds like a good set of specs for an entry level FF dSLR. Should sell like hotcakes.

Now, here come the Canon haters to start bashing the camera based on a rumor, months before it launches...

Honestly: Here are so many more mindless fanboys than haters, I think you can stop it now....or at least modify it into: "In before the CANON IS GOD! THEY CAN'T MAKE MISTAKES!-crowd."

As for the 6DII: If the specs are true, I'll buy it at a heartbeat! That's exactly what I wanted. A modest increase in MP, touchscreen+tilt-screen, a fair price (I'd even call 2500€ fair for this), the new sensor that isn't too far behind sony and a great autofocus (surely it will have some more AF-points than the 6D)!
This could be the thing Canon invested people like myself have waited for! I could even see this becoming more popular with the professionals than the 5DIV.

 

[Don Haines]

Sounds like a good set of specs for an entry level FF dSLR. Should sell like hotcakes.

Now, here come the Canon haters to start bashing the camera based on a rumor, months before it launches...

I remember when the 60D came out and it was superior in many ways to the 7D.....

I remember when the 80D came out and it was superior in some ways to the 7D2....

I remember when the 6D came out and was superior in some ways to the 5D3....

I am sure that there will be a lot of people going on about protecting sales, but the reality is, when Canon (or Nikon or Sony) introduces a camera in a slot of their range, the camera will be as good as it can be PROFITABLY sold for in that price range and the only thing that deliberately crippling features would achieve would be to hurt sales...

 

[slclick]

Sounds like a good set of specs for an entry level FF dSLR. Should sell like hotcakes.

Now, here come the Canon haters to start bashing the camera based on a rumor, months before it launches...

Honestly: Here are so many more mindless fanboys than haters, I think you can stop it now....or at least modify it into: "In before the CANON IS GOD! THEY CAN'T MAKE MISTAKES!-crowd."

As for the 6DII: If the specs are true, I'll buy it at a heartbeat! That's exactly what I wanted. A modest increase in MP, touchscreen+tilt-screen, a fair price (I'd even call 2500€ fair for this), the new sensor that isn't too far behind sony and a great autofocus (surely it will have some more AF-points than the 6D)!
This could be the thing Canon invested people like myself have waited for! I could even see this becoming more popular with the professionals than the 5DIV.

Playing both sides of the coin sure is a fun game around here as of late.

 

[NorbR]

Tilty touchscreen and DPAF in a full frame camera under $2k... Yes please !

Now I'll wait to see if the interchangeable focussing screen is still there. It's the only reason I'm keeping my 6D at the moment, and I'd probably have to keep it a bit longer if Canon took that option out of the 6D2.

 

[Loswr]

You know, if you weren't always the first one to post and preemptively start the war, the war might actually end...

 

[mistaspeedy]

They should have a customer loyalty program so I can swap my 20D for a 6D mark II (which needs to match the 1DX Mark II in features), for $100. Otherwise Canon is doomed... Just kidding...

But yeah, it's probably time I upgraded my camera.

The 6D mark II can't really go wrong in terms of specs... as long some features are comparable (a bit lower) to either the 80D or 5D IV (and better than the original 6D).

 

[ahsanford]

Tilty touchscreen and DPAF in a full frame camera under $2k... Yes please !

Now I'll wait to see if the interchangeable focussing screen is still there. It's the only reason I'm keeping my 6D at the moment, and I'd probably have to keep it a bit longer if Canon took that option out of the 6D2.

And I don't mean to take something away from the 6D camp like I'm the grinch, but I simply fail to understand why a critical element of working with higher end MF lenses (by no means a beginner's need) was given to the 6D camp and withheld from 5D3 and now 5D4. I recall Canon spoke to the transparent (translucent) overlay with the 5D3 VF as a reason why it could not be changed out, but not being able to use an MF screen seems like a nontrivial unmet need.

I am truly curious to see if the 6D2 keeps this feature.

- A

 

[LesC]

Hope it retains GPS. Not sure why it would 'only' have a tilting screen when even entry level dslrs now have fully articulating?

As always, price will be the deciding factor as too how well received it is. Even a price of $2000 will probably be a big increase over what I paid for my 6D in the UK; dollar prices tend to translate to the same over here so it's likely to be £2000 over here whereas I paid £1279 for mine 2 years ago....

 

[docsmith]

Great list of specs. In addition to the AF, the other main question in my mind is ergonomics. Joystick and better back wheel please....

But, if I were to guess where the 6DII will be "nerfed" it is:

• Quantity of AF Points. I am thinking 18-25
• Quality of AF points. EV-3, only center is f/8, fewer are cross, etc.
• Body. Build quality, weather sealing, etc
• Ergonomics. No joy stick, lower quality wheel, fewer buttons (I actually use most on my 5DIII)
• No 4K video. It would be a surprise.

If the rumored spec list is true, upgrade in sensor tech from 1Dx II, 5DIV, etc carries over and it is limited in the above ways, I would still be tempted. Biggest limitations to me will be the f/8 AF points and the ergonomics. I very much enjoy shooting my 5DIII. I'd hate to give up the joystick, wheel, etc.

 

[bsbeamer]

this sounds like a great 2nd body to my 5D4, or MAYBE good enough for me to sell that and pickup two of these instead? will wait for more details.

hopeful this may be a better 4K implementation and maybe (doubtful) that will prompt a firmware update for the 5D4...

 

[addola]

Good set of specs for the 6D successor. My biggest complaint with my 6D is the sub-par AF points. Only center one is cross type.

It would be nice if it has the 5D Mark iii AF points (since the original 6D inherited the 5D Mark ii AF points)

They should probably have a more efficient video codec than M-JPEG.

 

[ahsanford]

If the rumored spec list is true, upgrade in sensor tech from 1Dx II, 5DIV, etc carries over and it is limited in the above ways, I would still be tempted. Biggest limitations to me will be the f/8 AF points and the ergonomics. I very much enjoy shooting my 5DIII. I'd hate to give up the joystick, wheel, etc.

Great point -- it's poll time. 5D3 owners who skipped the 5D4 only, please:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=31726.0

- A

 

[johnhenry]

A sub $2K FF body with 4K?

Seriously hobbled without High Speed Cf cards

Canon keeps doing this:

It doesn't want to give anyone 4K video in any decent fashion just so it can drive 2% of those people to 4K video.

More will simply keep their aging cameras like my 7D for even longer.

At some point we'll get sick of waiting and jump or just leave our cameras as is without upgrades until they die

 

[hubie]

Hope it retains GPS. Not sure why it would 'only' have a tilting screen when even entry level dslrs now have fully articulating?

As always, price will be the deciding factor as too how well received it is. Even a price of $2000 will probably be a big increase over what I paid for my 6D in the UK; dollar prices tend to translate to the same over here so it's likely to be £2000 over here whereas I paid £1279 for mine 2 years ago....

Oh dear dont hang yourself up on the word "tilt". Think just a second.
Give up the "Ruggedness" of a non flipscreen and then only implement a tilt screen when you have already a real-world proven articulating screen recipe?
Nope. Not going to happen. Even with "stupid Canon".
It's just rumor and words probably not chosen 100% accurate...

 

[Bags]

Got the 80D for Christmas. Couldn't wait any longer to upgrade. :-\

Maybe next Christmas I can finally get a FF. (But, by then more mirror less FF rumors will be flying around...)

It does sounds nice.

 

[unfocused]

... One might think you actually enjoy endlessly bickering over the same meaningless stuff... :

I can't believe it's taken you this long to figure that out.

 

[transpo1]

this sounds like a great 2nd body to my 5D4, or MAYBE good enough for me to sell that and pickup two of these instead? will wait for more details.

hopeful this may be a better 4K implementation and maybe (doubtful) that will prompt a firmware update for the 5D4...

It would be excellent if they implemented 4K with a lighter codec and log and gave the 5D4 a few extra video features via firmware update...Canon might get some 4K video customers back from Sony this way.

 

[Diko]

Sounds like a good set of specs for an entry level FF dSLR. Should sell like hotcakes.

Now, here come the Canon haters to start bashing the camera based on a rumor, months before it launches...

I kind of think it would be plastic and slow... But this "Tilting LCD" is quite a deal.

 

[Don Haines]

I'm looking at it from a slightly different viewpoint..... I really really really want a nice camera for nighttime work. To me, image noise at higher ISOs is the most important factor, as I would be using it a lot at ISO6400 and above for things like night-time landscapes, critters in the evenings, and astrophotography.... Of course my astrophotography will not produce images like jrista, but I really enjoy going out and trying....

If it better than the 6D for that, I will be happy. If it is significantly better, then I will be significantly happier

 

[Besisika]

4K is the key, if 4K then I am upgrading my 5D III.
Perfect for a video B-camera for a close up and hand-held video. Would be a king of B-rolls.
As far as photos, tilt screen lightweight full frame will separate it clearly from the rest.