Sony Claims Adapted Canon Lenses AF Nearly as Fast as on a Canon DSLR.

[gobucks]

Sony seems to be so disperate to sell their sensors to Canon. Making so much fuss about compatibility with Canon lens than their own lens performance.

Im not sure if I'd use the word desparate, Sony's camera department is probably their biggest bright spot right now. It's true their FE lens selection currently is pretty bare, but a lot of what they do have is good. It will just take years to flesh it out. In the meantime, it makes perfect sense to make it easy for canon shooters to jump to sony. More people in the FE ecosystem means they can spend more on developing new lenses, and they will sell more of them. I love my 6D, and am not ready to jump ship yet, but if the 6DII fails to impress, and sony keeps improving their A7 line, i might consider it come upgrade time.

 

[tiltshift]

Having had the 5dIII since it came out and having had the a7R since it came out I think it is great that Sony is evolving. I dont think I'll buy another canon body unless they do the same. that said I wont be selling my system either. I think that getting a a7R II plus a metabones just gives you best of both words if you're already invested in Canon. want better DR or ISO performance and dont mind MF pick up the Sony, need AF Canon. end of story. I was worried initially with the EVF but now if I had the option I would love a 5d series body with a EVF. so much more information, that said I don't use polarizers often, which is one of the largest drawbacks to EVF in my opinion.

Now I am in a pickle but the 85 otis for both systems or just the batis.... :-\

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Sony seems to be so disperate to sell their sensors to Canon. Making so much fuss about compatibility with Canon lens than their own lens performance.

Sony is doing just fine selling sensors, and Canon buys a lot of them from Sony, just not the large ones. Sony does have the advantage of having a AF system that works with Canon lenses. It will sell some Bodies for Sony, but might also sell some of the high end lenses that Sony can't match for Canon. It really sounds like a win-win deal, at least for the photographer.

I have also heard that Sigma DSLR's have compatibility with the Canon AF system, but by having the same 44mm registration distance, a adapter is not possible without lens elements. Some have had the lens mount changed out to a Canon mount, but its a major job.

 

[AA]

MY 5D IV has just been announced

I will only need to change my flash guns, and radio transmitters, nothing else. Not even that because my YN-E3-RT and Canon 600EX-RTs will work with the A7RII in manual mode. I only need to buy a Sony flashgun for TTL.

Go Sony! Canon deserves their costumers to leave them! If this thing is as good as they say, I found my new Canon. It's a Sony!

 

[stochasticmotions]

I can't wait to see what this camera can actually do. I have been using both Canon and Sony together for quite some time now. I mostly shoot nature and a bit of landscape and find both sets of tools pretty complimentary right now. I carry the 1D IV with either the 100-400 II or the sigma 120-300 with the canon 2x converter for long shots (still looking for a nice used 500 or 600 ) and carry the a6000 with the 70-200 f4 for closer stuff. (A7R I use with sony 24-70 or various canon lenses for landscape and macro work.

This new camera could make me get rid of both the original a7r and the a6000 if the autofocus with the sony lenses is reasonably close to the a6000 for in flight shots (I'm not expecting it to be as good, since getting used to the a6000 it is the fastest, most consistent tracking that I have ever used). Anything better than the original a7r autofocus would be good, reasonable tracking speed would be great and the bonus of better on the canon/sigma lenses would mean I could use the long lenses for at least perched birds without having to go to manual peaking.

I haven't decided what canon camera will make me finally upgrade the 1D, so far the improvements in the canon bodies have not been enough to make me jump. 5DSR and 5D IV might be it.

I didn't think I would consider upgrading either of the sony cameras for at least another revision but they have put so much into this next generation that it is highly likely unless actual reviews show some major issues.

Biggest decision will end up being which wide angle zoom will I end up getting....four great choices now with canon 11-24, 16-35 f4, the tamron 15-30 and the sony zeiss 16-35 f4.

 

[that1guyy]

After reading about this online, I'd be inclined to take this news with a grain of salt. This is coming from someone really looking forward to this camera.

I don't know how fast the AF will be and if it will be as fast as on a Canon DSLR. Seems a bit too good to be true. Plus, the same interview says that the Sony does 240fps at 1080p which is contradictory to the official specs . Only 120fps at 720p. That makes me think the Sony engineers in the interview had no clue what they were talking about or exaggerating.

In any case, we can just wait and see.

 

[WorkonSunday]

quoting certain movie: "I nearly had you". lol

on a more serious note. lawsuit probably, but i think canon will make a move on metabone first since they are the one that did the interface. but then again, same as any other third party lens out there. even if they did managed, metabones design has been copied a million times in china, how many unbranded factory can be traced and possibly shut down? look at all these copycat cars in china, and yet the judge ruled out any element of copying and let them keep going. sony never highlight it was for canon lens in their official statement, they said third party, they may be very well refer to the older sigma native E mount lens. anyway, it will be interesting to see how this develops

 

[WorkonSunday]

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on a more serious note. lawsuit probably, but i think canon will make a move on metabone first since they are the one that did the interface. but then again, same as any other third party lens out there. even if they did managed, metabones design has been copied a million times in china, how many unbranded factory can be traced and possibly shut down? look at all these copycat cars in china, and yet the judge ruled out any element of copying and let them keep going. sony never highlight it was for canon lens in their official statement, they said third party, they may be very well refer to the older sigma native E mount lens. anyway, it will be interesting to see how this develops

If Canon took action against Metabones then other manufacturers (Tamron, Sigma) might start asking questions about if they're next. The net result might make Canon feel good (about doing some chest beating) but would be a net loss for us (the consumers.) It would definitely turn me off Canon.

Be that as it may, I think you'll find that Metabones is safe and thus so is Sony.

i agree. but canon has been doing some unpredictable (arguably, stupid) moves of late like blocking out ML via firmware. so blocking out all third party lens? well, i think it's on the same level as ML.

 

[Oli4]

This could easily backfire on Sony. If it is true what they are claiming about AF than why would anyone continue buying Sony glass? Why would you buy 'OK' glass that is more expensive? Because you had to if you were a Sony shooter. I think more Sony shooters will switch to Canon glass than Canon shooters will switch to Sony bodys. Win win for Canon.

 

[AcutancePhotography]

This could easily backfire on Sony. If it is true what they are claiming about AF than why would anyone continue buying Sony glass? Why would you buy 'OK' glass that is more expensive? Because you had to if you were a Sony shooter. I think more Sony shooters will switch to Canon glass than Canon shooters will switch to Sony bodys. Win win for Canon.

Maybe Sony really does not want to get into the glass business for their cameras. They had to offer some lenses at first, but perhaps they intend on only building sensors and cameras.

It could be a matter of letting each company do what they do best.

Canon makes good glass, so why would Sony invest their money in glass making. They know it would be very expensive (time and money) to even attempt to produce better glass than Canon/Sigma. So don't play in a game you can't win.

Every dollar Sony spends on glass is money they are not spending on what they do best, which is make sensors and (time will tell) cameras.

It is a win win for Sony too.

 

[fragilesi]

This could easily backfire on Sony. If it is true what they are claiming about AF than why would anyone continue buying Sony glass? Why would you buy 'OK' glass that is more expensive? Because you had to if you were a Sony shooter. I think more Sony shooters will switch to Canon glass than Canon shooters will switch to Sony bodys. Win win for Canon.

Maybe Sony really does not want to get into the glass business for their cameras. They had to offer some lenses at first, but perhaps they intend on only building sensors and cameras.

It could be a matter of letting each company do what they do best.

Canon makes good glass, so why would Sony invest their money in glass making. They know it would be very expensive (time and money) to even attempt to produce better glass than Canon/Sigma. So don't play in a game you can't win.

Every dollar Sony spends on glass is money they are not spending on what they do best, which is make sensors and (time will tell) cameras.

It is a win win for Sony too.

Very possibly that's true. I've made this point many times now. It would be incredibly expensive / difficult to make money by being the best or even second best at everything across such a broad spectrum. People say Canon aren't innovating but this just doesn't stack up at all. If they had done the same as Sony I think there would be a LOT more unhappy people about. There would be less choice not more.

 

[BRunner]

Nikon is doomed

Now, Nikon is doomed too!!!

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/new-nikon-f-to-sony-e-mount-electronic-adapter-coming-soon/

 

[East Wind Photography]

http://sigma-rumors.com/2015/06/sigma-full-frame-fe-mount-lenses/

This makes me happy and hopefully it comes true sooner than later.

It would be very cool to see Sigma 50/1.4 Art with a native E or FE mount for Sony.

Same too if Tamron delivered a 15-30 and 24-70/2.8 VC for Sony mount.

If I were Sony I'd be talking to Sigma and Tamron about getting lenses for E & FE mounts out in the market.

Sony seems to have thought through how they can get others like Canon and Nikon users to use one camera body, this is a smart move

Not so smart. The Sony still cannot do what I need a dslr to do. I actually needed a mirrorless for a particular need, not to replace nor can it replace what I already have in dslrs.

 

[AcutancePhotography]

Not so smart. The Sony still cannot do what I need a dslr to do. I actually needed a mirrorless for a particular need, not to replace nor can it replace what I already have in dslrs.

I think the chances of a big company like Sony making a camera aimed at a particular need, as you alluded to, are pretty slim.

Sony like Canon will make a camera they feel will appeal to the widest subset of their target demographic.

 

[fragilesi]

http://sigma-rumors.com/2015/06/sigma-full-frame-fe-mount-lenses/

This makes me happy and hopefully it comes true sooner than later.

It would be very cool to see Sigma 50/1.4 Art with a native E or FE mount for Sony.

Same too if Tamron delivered a 15-30 and 24-70/2.8 VC for Sony mount.

If I were Sony I'd be talking to Sigma and Tamron about getting lenses for E & FE mounts out in the market.

Sony seems to have thought through how they can get others like Canon and Nikon users to use one camera body, this is a smart move

Seems like a lot of people are trying to credit Sony with what Metabones have done . . .

 

[tcmatthews]

I will take it with a grain of salt but if it does focus that much better than the A7II I will have to get one. If it makes auto focus with the 100L IS work well, I can remove the Sony FE 90 macro from my buy list. Not to mention my 70-200f4 L will become stabilized. Both of those are just to slow to auto focus on the A7II.

The question I have is, will I need version 4 of the metabones adapter? My Tamron 150-600 does not work at all with version 3. I guess that lens will have to live on my Canon 6D from now on. It basically does anyway. So not selling the Canon any time soon.

While all my old FD Canon lenses picked up on Ebay work well on the A7II I have no doubt they will fall apart on a A7RII. So Lenses first. If only I had more money. At this time I cannot afford the A7rII until next year.

 

[farhad]

The only problem with sony was lens choice....this is being sorted out now and will get better. The way canon is treating us i think they should better their character or their shop will be closed by sony and some other players in the market.

 

[AvTvM]

Just love the A7R II specs and to watch, how SOny ios now reaölly hunting down Canon and their uninnovative boring old mirrorslappers.

BUT ... I am very sceptical when it comes to using Canon EF lenses via a third party adapter (Metabones) on a Sony camera. Canon has so often resorted to making oh so slight changes to their proprietary EF lens mount protocol in order to throw a monkey wrench into third party plays.

If Sony wants to brag about their AF system in conjunction with Canon glass, they really should make that adapter themselves and sell it to their A7-purchasers for a reasonable 99 USD/Euro. Rather than relying on fly-by-night third party reverse engineers like metabones who will make you buy yet another version of their adapter every year at 500 USD a piece.

 

[canonvoir]

I purchased an a7ii to see what the fuss was about. I instantly saw a better quality image than my 5Diii. I have preordered the a7rii. I have also filled out my lens collection with native FE glass. I will be holding a 1DX with 300 on the sideline this year but have an a7rii with 55mm around my neck as a second body. Should be a fun season.

Canon needs to stop screwing around and use the Sony sensor if nothing else.

 

[that1guyy]

This guy does a great hands on preview.

http://www.mirrorlessons.com/2015/06/16/sony-a7r-mark-2-first-impressions/

Watch the video. The AF speed with native lenses seems pretty good to me for most purposes. the AF performance with Sony A-mount lenses with an adapter is kind of disappointing as it hunts quite a bit. Still waiting to see how it performs with Canon lenses though.