Specifications & Images of the Upcoming Canon Lenses

[H. Jones]

This is just too exciting! Will be very interested to see how the quality and autofocus turns out, but I have no reason to expect it won't be excellent.

 

[FramerMCB]

I may be way off but I think this lens will be reasonably priced for a new L. I don't see anything in the specs that indicates this requires any exotic optics. It's a lens they should have released years ago along with an updated 50mm. The 100 2.8L macro sells for $800. I think they price it at $1299 at launch and they sell a good number of them. Not sure how much of a market there will be if they go well above $1500. Wishful thinking? Maybe.

You make good points but I don't see this lens being cheaper than the 35 1.4L II was at intro. My best guess would be $1,499 or $1,599. Maybe even $1,699. I don't see it being more than the 85 1.2L. I think you make some excellent points. Now if it has the BR stuff, probably leaning towards $1,699 or higher. But you're right in that there is nothing ground breaking here...

 

[Chaitanya]

mount on new light seems like its same as original which mean no need to buy new flash brackets from RRS or others. waiting for release of that light.

 

[Ladislav]

I may be way off but I think this lens will be reasonably priced for a new L. I don't see anything in the specs that indicates this requires any exotic optics. It's a lens they should have released years ago along with an updated 50mm. The 100 2.8L macro sells for $800. I think they price it at $1299 at launch and they sell a good number of them. Not sure how much of a market there will be if they go well above $1500. Wishful thinking? Maybe.

You make good points but I don't see this lens being cheaper than the 35 1.4L II was at intro. My best guess would be $1,499 or $1,599. Maybe even $1,699. I don't see it being more than the 85 1.2L. I think you make some excellent points. Now if it has the BR stuff, probably leaning towards $1,699 or higher. But you're right in that there is nothing ground breaking here...

Unless you consider IS and f1.4 ground breaking because there is no other lens like that in Canon lineup.

 

[IglooEater]

Re: And here's the new 85mm 1.4L IS

Image doesn't seem to be manipulated more than placing the logo as watermark over the lens.
I made a size comparison based on lined-up mounts of the 85/1.8, 85/1.2L II. Quite a large lens, but not as big as I feared.

Image shows rubber gasket around mount, so weather sealed is a pretty safe bet.

Nice. It'll be hard to know it's not the 35L ii in the dark.

You'd probably feel the 200g difference in weight and the 8mm difference in diameter (roughly 10%) might also be noticeable, but yes, they'd be quite similar.

My knee-jerk reaction was, "Wait, that's just a photoshopped 35mm 1.4L"

 

[mb66energy]

I may be way off but I think this lens will be reasonably priced for a new L. I don't see anything in the specs that indicates this requires any exotic optics. It's a lens they should have released years ago along with an updated 50mm. The 100 2.8L macro sells for $800. I think they price it at $1299 at launch and they sell a good number of them. Not sure how much of a market there will be if they go well above $1500. Wishful thinking? Maybe.

You make good points but I don't see this lens being cheaper than the 35 1.4L II was at intro. My best guess would be $1,499 or $1,599. Maybe even $1,699. I don't see it being more than the 85 1.2L. I think you make some excellent points. Now if it has the BR stuff, probably leaning towards $1,699 or higher. But you're right in that there is nothing ground breaking here...

I was quite shure that 1500 EUR / $ is a very good estimate and I think it's shure for the street price one year after introduction. But now, considering it's weight, I think it is more on the 1700-1800 EUR / $ side at introduction because of it's weight and therefore the needed amount of special glasses.
But I im in the same order of magnitude like you.

Comparing it to the 35mm ii: In my opinion it isn't that critical to correct 85mm compared to 35mm: Less curvature, less retrofocus, less efforts to correct lateral CAs ... It has more glass and maybe the AF motors must be stronger to move a bigger lens group for the IS (if they haven't found a solution to move a thin lens/group - diameter must be around 40mm for the IS element). There is no (at the moment at least) hint on very special materials like the organic compound for the BR refractive element - this is for me a hint that they haven't the extra cost for a specialized process to produce and especially integrate a specialized material.

At the moment Canon (again my opinion) relies on their great set of lenses and keeps a lot of their customers in their camp. If I hadn't a collection of 8...9 lenses (o.k., only two L lenses but 2.0 100 or 2.8 100 Macro or 2.8 40 are definitely very fine lenses) I would have tried other companies products. And they compete with other lens manufacturers so they must keep their lens lineup attractive and cannot set prices too high.

 

[Memdroid]

A sub 2000 price is wishful thinking based on their major lens releases in recent years. I won't be surprised if the 85mm comes in at $2200/€2200 maybe even more.

 

[padam]

I really hope the sharpness of the new 85mm is similar to the 35mm II. Instant buy if it is!

I'd love to upgrade my trusty, old 85mm f/1.8, get a little better IQ, aka wide open sharpness and especially CA. However this would be a costly upgrade and one I'd struggle to justify. Just the same I look forward to people getting their hands on this and sharing some images showing what this lens can do!

Patents are out for new 85/1.8 and 100/2 lenses, but it will take a few years until they will be released.

 

[Berowne]

My guess is, that the pricing of new 85L will not be below 2000€, because the 35L Mk II sets the Standard, so with IS it may cost about 2500€. I am pretty curious, if Rogers law about "Big and Beautful Lenses" proves to be true, because this one isnt soo big.

Anyway, if these pics are genuine, we will have all answers within a few days.

 

[Luds34]

I really hope the sharpness of the new 85mm is similar to the 35mm II. Instant buy if it is!

I'd love to upgrade my trusty, old 85mm f/1.8, get a little better IQ, aka wide open sharpness and especially CA. However this would be a costly upgrade and one I'd struggle to justify. Just the same I look forward to people getting their hands on this and sharing some images showing what this lens can do!

Patents are out for new 85/1.8 and 100/2 lenses, but it will take a few years until they will be released.

Oh really? I was not aware of that. I'll be keeping my eyes open on that front as in general I've found Canon's "consumer" primes to be really good.

 

[SV]

Re: Specifications & Images of the Upcoming Canon Lenses - RT on flash photo

If you look closely, you can see an "RT" in the macro flash photo...

 

[Chaitanya]

Re: Specifications & Images of the Upcoming Canon Lenses - RT on flash photo

If you look closely, you can see an "RT" in the macro flash photo...

Also looks like there is filter thread as well. Probably same 67mm filter thread found on MR-14ex II.

 

[privatebydesign]

Re: Specifications & Images of the Upcoming Canon Lenses - RT on flash photo

If you look closely, you can see an "RT" in the macro flash photo...

Looking at the Nikon equivalent I'm not sure the batteries in each head and completely wireless wouldn't have been a stronger approach than just remote control.

 

[Joska]

Should read 1:2 not 2:1 for the tilt shift lenses.

 

[Drainpipe]

Re: Specifications & Images of the Upcoming Canon Lenses - RT on flash photo

If you look closely, you can see an "RT" in the macro flash photo...

Looking at the Nikon equivalent I'm not sure the batteries in each head and completely wireless wouldn't have been a stronger approach than just remote control.

Nah. Batteries in each head would be a pain. I'd much rather only have one set of batteries to worry about.

Should read 1:2 not 2:1 for the tilt shift lenses.

I wish that typo were real : I'm planning to try the 50mm TS as a run and gun macro. I love my MP-E, but I'm thinking (hoping? Praying?) that the tilt shift will add a lot of DoF to my shots.

 

[sulla]

Those are not going to be cheap lenses. None of them.
Not at ~1kg each and with a red ring. This is a serious amount of glass.

 

[privatebydesign]

Re: Specifications & Images of the Upcoming Canon Lenses - RT on flash photo

If you look closely, you can see an "RT" in the macro flash photo...

Looking at the Nikon equivalent I'm not sure the batteries in each head and completely wireless wouldn't have been a stronger approach than just remote control.

Nah. Batteries in each head would be a pain. I'd much rather only have one set of batteries to worry about.

Should read 1:2 not 2:1 for the tilt shift lenses.

I wish that typo were real : I'm planning to try the 50mm TS as a run and gun macro. I love my MP-E, but I'm thinking (hoping? Praying?) that the tilt shift will add a lot of DoF to my shots.

I can see advantages for both solutions, the Nikon way makes using one to four heads very easy, sure you can switch one Canon one off but that isn't the same. But the Canon method makes battery management much easier and the heads lighter.

The 50 TS-E will take a 25mm tube and get you close to 2:1.

 

[Joska]

Re: Specifications & Images of the Upcoming Canon Lenses - RT on flash photo

I wish that typo were real : I'm planning to try the 50mm TS as a run and gun macro. I love my MP-E, but I'm thinking (hoping? Praying?) that the tilt shift will add a lot of DoF to my shots.

(Never used a tilt/shift lens...
I don't think you can get more DOF but change the plane of focus and thereby maybe position your DOF better.

 

[Drainpipe]

Re: Specifications & Images of the Upcoming Canon Lenses - RT on flash photo

(Never used a tilt/shift lens...
I don't think you can get more DOF but change the plane of focus and thereby maybe position your DOF better.

Right! For things like spiders which like to lay flat, I'll be able to take an off-angle shot, but have the entire spider in focus, front to back. Now I focus on the eyes, which gets me the eyes, part of their mouthparts, and a little rearward of their heads.

On the one hand having the focus plane being parallel helps to isolate the eyes, but when you're trying to get all the important bits for identification in focus it kinda stinks :/

 

[Drainpipe]

Re: Specifications & Images of the Upcoming Canon Lenses - RT on flash photo

I can see advantages for both solutions, the Nikon way makes using one to four heads very easy, sure you can switch one Canon one off but that isn't the same. But the Canon method makes battery management much easier and the heads lighter.

The 50 TS-E will take a 25mm tube and get you close to 2:1.

Ah more like 68mm of tubes (1.86:1). 25mm tube would be a 1:1. Unless I'm using this calculator wrong: http://extreme-macro.co.uk/extension-tubes/#calculator

Those are not going to be cheap lenses. None of them.
Not at ~1kg each and with a red ring. This is a serious amount of glass.

Right? I'm guessing $2k easy for the 50mm, and I don't even want to guess on the 135mm.