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To the OP,
Both systems are fine. I have been a Canon user for 13 years and as Neuro pointed out, while Nikon does have a couple of lenses that Canon does not, Canon has many more that Nikon does not. In the end, great photographs are possible from both systems provided the user has the creativity and eye for composition and the technical knowledge to execute it. While Canon's sensor tech may lose a little in the dynamic range department, I feel the options for glass vastly outweigh this slight shortcoming. Personally I've found Canon's ergonomics work better for me than the few times I've played with Nikon DSLRs.
Just my opinion....
Both systems are fine. I have been a Canon user for 13 years and as Neuro pointed out, while Nikon does have a couple of lenses that Canon does not, Canon has many more that Nikon does not. In the end, great photographs are possible from both systems provided the user has the creativity and eye for composition and the technical knowledge to execute it. While Canon's sensor tech may lose a little in the dynamic range department, I feel the options for glass vastly outweigh this slight shortcoming. Personally I've found Canon's ergonomics work better for me than the few times I've played with Nikon DSLRs.
Just my opinion....
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The last thing I would do is change brands because of sensor.
The canon sensor is the best....
Then Olympus comes out with the best sensor....
Then Sony comes out with the best sensor....
Then Nikon comes out with the best sensor...
Then Canon comes out with the best sensor...
Then Sony comes out with the best sensor...
It's all where things are in the product cycles....NOBODY lives all the time at the top.
Personally, as a Canon shooter, I am more concerned with good Canon glass and autofocus... that's where IQ mostly comes from. If I were a Nikon shooter, I would be more concerned with good Nikon glass and autofocus
The canon sensor is the best....
Then Olympus comes out with the best sensor....
Then Sony comes out with the best sensor....
Then Nikon comes out with the best sensor...
Then Canon comes out with the best sensor...
Then Sony comes out with the best sensor...
It's all where things are in the product cycles....NOBODY lives all the time at the top.
Personally, as a Canon shooter, I am more concerned with good Canon glass and autofocus... that's where IQ mostly comes from. If I were a Nikon shooter, I would be more concerned with good Nikon glass and autofocus
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Go to Flickr and see pictures that have been explored. It's actually possible to get good results with even an entry level camera with a 50mm 1.8. If you don't get the results you want, perhaps get a few good photography books and get some inspiration. Camera is only a tool. Switching to d600 doesn't automatically give you good pictures.
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Surely there must be more than just the sensor as a reason to change?
Not sure I understand the whole change over logic. If you have a base of lenses you need for various applications /situations, plus flash, batteries, chargers etc, it's a sizable investment. Not to mention experience in camera handling, settings, preferences and so on. To the sell / trade all this for a whole new system based one one criteria which may well be leapfrogged at some point in the future anyway, makes me wonder whether it is worth it, even if the sensor isn't as good.
Some years back I sold an image from my 7yold 350d. It was enlarged to over 2m2, not sure how, but that was not my problem! It hangs in a boardroom somewhere. My point is that a sensor is just one aspect of the package you use to take images, the image is what really counts. Don't be too caught up about just a sensor.
Not sure I understand the whole change over logic. If you have a base of lenses you need for various applications /situations, plus flash, batteries, chargers etc, it's a sizable investment. Not to mention experience in camera handling, settings, preferences and so on. To the sell / trade all this for a whole new system based one one criteria which may well be leapfrogged at some point in the future anyway, makes me wonder whether it is worth it, even if the sensor isn't as good.
Some years back I sold an image from my 7yold 350d. It was enlarged to over 2m2, not sure how, but that was not my problem! It hangs in a boardroom somewhere. My point is that a sensor is just one aspect of the package you use to take images, the image is what really counts. Don't be too caught up about just a sensor.
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First of all thanks for all the replies!
I didn't get why in my area 20 photographers shoots with canon and only 1 with nikon, but i think i get it now.
Both companies has there own "pros and cons" and i think Canon has a bit more "pros". Maby not in image quality but maby in all the other things to make beauteful pictures.
I have to rent a camera from both in the same price class and just go out shooting. Then i know what i want and what i like
TBC...
True! my investment in lenses/flash will get useless. at the end its the photographer who handles the gear and takes the picture, so i just take what fits me the most.
I didn't get why in my area 20 photographers shoots with canon and only 1 with nikon, but i think i get it now.
Both companies has there own "pros and cons" and i think Canon has a bit more "pros". Maby not in image quality but maby in all the other things to make beauteful pictures.
I have to rent a camera from both in the same price class and just go out shooting. Then i know what i want and what i like
TBC...P_R said:
True! my investment in lenses/flash will get useless. at the end its the photographer who handles the gear and takes the picture, so i just take what fits me the most.
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neuroanatomist said:rumorzmonger said:
Or how about:
a Canon 5DIII and TS-E 17mm f/4L;
a Nikon D800E and...
a Canon 5DIII and MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro;
a Nikon D800E and...
a Canon 5DIII and handholdable 600mm f/4L IS II;
a Nikon D800E and...
a Canon 5DIII and an f/1.2 prime lens;
a Nikon D800E and...
we could do this all day :
Yeah but Nikon has Ashton Kutcher, and it sounds fancier when you pronounce it in the British accent "Nick-ohn"
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I rather like the idea (though not the expense...) of owning more than one system in order to benefit from their various strengths (plus, let's face it, it's fun to play with new toys). Right now I have Canon FF and Olympus OMD, both of which have their obvious relative advantages, and I have no intention of dropping either.
As we all know, Nikon FF (I'm not much interested in crop) has relative advantages too (notably current sensor technology, though most of the time I think the differences are overrated), and I sometimes think it might be nice to have access to those advantages, especially if in the context of lenses they're complementary. It seems pretty clear that Canon wins at the long end (zooms and primes, with the exception perhaps of the new Nikon 80-400) and wins at mid-range zooms, and pretty clear that Nikon wins with ultrawide zooms. My problem is that I don't want an ultra-wide lens often enough to justify the expense (it would make more sense for me to buy the m43 equivalents, which are extremely good, much smaller and much cheaper) and I'm having a hard time coming up with other Nikon lenses of interest to me that Canon doesn't do at least as well. Nikon's 50mm 1.8G, 85mm 1.8G and 85mm 1.4G probably qualify (the latter if only because Canon doesn't have one), and the 135mm f2 with its adjustable bokeh sounds intriguing. (Putting inferior lenses on a superior sensor seems pointless to me.)
So my question to those of you who use or have used both Nikon and Canon FF is this: which Nikon lenses, in your experience, are either superior to their Canon counterparts or have no Canon counterpart?
Thanks in advance.
As we all know, Nikon FF (I'm not much interested in crop) has relative advantages too (notably current sensor technology, though most of the time I think the differences are overrated), and I sometimes think it might be nice to have access to those advantages, especially if in the context of lenses they're complementary. It seems pretty clear that Canon wins at the long end (zooms and primes, with the exception perhaps of the new Nikon 80-400) and wins at mid-range zooms, and pretty clear that Nikon wins with ultrawide zooms. My problem is that I don't want an ultra-wide lens often enough to justify the expense (it would make more sense for me to buy the m43 equivalents, which are extremely good, much smaller and much cheaper) and I'm having a hard time coming up with other Nikon lenses of interest to me that Canon doesn't do at least as well. Nikon's 50mm 1.8G, 85mm 1.8G and 85mm 1.4G probably qualify (the latter if only because Canon doesn't have one), and the 135mm f2 with its adjustable bokeh sounds intriguing. (Putting inferior lenses on a superior sensor seems pointless to me.)
So my question to those of you who use or have used both Nikon and Canon FF is this: which Nikon lenses, in your experience, are either superior to their Canon counterparts or have no Canon counterpart?
Thanks in advance.
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1. how old are you? can't you just do a research and make your own judgement about buying stuff?
2. you are in canon forum and post a question of switching to nikon?
base on (1) and (2), i can see how smart you are...
all digital camera nowadays allow you to yield a good images... if you are not there? blame your technical skills instead of camera.
want to know how good you are? COVER YOUR LCD WITH BLACK GAFFER TAPE, then go around the neighbor where has different lightings, take images... go home, load them into computer and see how many of them you can have without much of post process...
2. you are in canon forum and post a question of switching to nikon?
base on (1) and (2), i can see how smart you are...
all digital camera nowadays allow you to yield a good images... if you are not there? blame your technical skills instead of camera.
want to know how good you are? COVER YOUR LCD WITH BLACK GAFFER TAPE, then go around the neighbor where has different lightings, take images... go home, load them into computer and see how many of them you can have without much of post process...
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Don Haines said:
very great point of viewing "...It's all where things are in the product cycles....NOBODY lives all the time at the top..."
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LewisShermer
point shoot hope
what if tyho's "investment" in Canon is a 300D and a 18-55 efs???
He may very well be right to sell his kit for £30 and buy a low end newer Nikon. Everyone is up in arms like he's using the 5Diii or 1Dx and reckoning the tech is a bit shoddy or something...
He may very well be right to sell his kit for £30 and buy a low end newer Nikon. Everyone is up in arms like he's using the 5Diii or 1Dx and reckoning the tech is a bit shoddy or something...
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LewisShermer said:
You may have a point but when the O.P has not taken the trouble to give us this information or look back at the multitude of threads on this site 'debating' this same topic, many of them initiated by first time posters, usually with the net result that it becomes the Canon vs Nikon DR debate, you can understand that many of us feel their heart sink when the topic rears it's head again, and why some posters fuses have been somewhat shortened on the matter.
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tyho said:
That's an awfully dangerous question to ask in Canon forums
After waiting for years for Canon to improve their sensors (having owned a 10D, 5D, 1D2n, 7D, 5D2, 5D3 and IR converted T3i) and after buying a 5D3 on faith that Canon's sensors just had to be on par with Sony and other sensors and learning that's not nearly the case, I opted to buy a D800e and have vowed not to buy any more Canon gear until they get their sensor act together. I just got tired of waiting and wanted the best DSLR sensor in a good DSLR that was available. I'm fortunate in that I didn't have to sell most of my Canon stuff to try Nikon (I did sell my 7D tho - I always hated the image quality) so it wasn't a huge deal to try the Nikon. Since buying the D800e, I've only used my Canon's when I need to use lenses I don't have Nikon equivalents for (24 TSE MK II, 500 F/4 IS, 100-400). I love the sensor in the D800e and have come to appreciate the Nikon ergonomics and some of its features like easy, built in time lapse functions, etc. (still hate, hate, hate their live view tho).
Anyway, deciding to switch all together would be tough. It depends what you shoot and whether Nikon offers lenses that'll work for ya. It also depends on how much you value having more DR (which helps create better B&W images as well as color - so if you enjoy B&W stuff, it may be a consideration). I guess the decision also depends on whether or when you think Canon will start producing markedly better sensors. If I were you I'd wait until after this upcoming product cycle plays out and if Canon doesn't introduce sensors that float your boat, seriously consider switching. You'll love the other guys' sensors
Cheers and good luck!
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