The Canon EOS R3 will be 24mp, confirmed by EXIF data

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Photographer testing the EOS R3 gives what is easily one of the highest shutter counts on a single battery that I've *ever* seen. Wow. I'm sure most of it was 30 fps, but even on the R5 at 20 fps you'd get no where close!
The R3 battery, LP-E19, has nearly twice the mWh the R5 battery has.
 
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The A7SIII is a primary video camera above stills.

Sony has the A9 series as their standard resolution sports body and the A1 as their flagship. Canon are releasing a non flagship body after Sony already have and just before Nikon release theirs.
Some will be happy to be getting the R3 but going from some of the comments there’s definitely some disappointment as well.
I'm not disappointed about the R3 but I am hovering on the fence, waiting for full specs, so I can then make an informed decision about buying it, or not. We all want to see what its capabilities are and shortcomings, as well, if any. It may very well play out that I'll purchase and R5 instead. On the other hand, I might just buy the R3 regardless, knowing in the short run that if I determine its not the camera for me, it wouldn't be too difficult to sell it and get good market value for it, at least in the short term.
 
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The R3 very much feels like how the R was to the R5/R6. Is Canon’s opportunity to test some concepts for a pro-body e.g size, button placement, flip screen and eye controlled autofocus. Very much feels that there will be no MKII version of this camera, just like the original EOS3. Having said that I still think that it will be a great camera to use, with some trade offs, just like the R.

Now that we know most of the specifications and assuming that the 24mp sensor is correct, what are people’s feeling on price? My guess that in US market we are going to see annouced at $5499, that will give space for Canon to price an eventual R1 at $6899.
 
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The R3 very much feels like how the R was to the R5/R6. Is Canon’s opportunity to test some concepts for a pro-body e.g size, button placement, flip screen and eye controlled autofocus. Very much feels that there will be no MKII version of this camera, just like the original EOS3. Having said that I still think that it will be a great camera to use, with some trade offs, just like the R.

Now that we know most of the specifications and assuming that the 24mp sensor is correct, what are people’s feeling on price? My guess that in US market we are going to see annouced at $5499, that will give space for Canon to price an eventual R1 at $6899.
There is a thread dedicated to guessing the price of the R3 here, if you'd like to see the estimates of others:
 
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Photographer testing the EOS R3 gives what is easily one of the highest shutter counts on a single battery that I've *ever* seen. Wow. I'm sure most of it was 30 fps, but even on the R5 at 20 fps you'd get no where close!

Quite impressive! Perhaps this battery life goes some way to confirm the 24mp. I would assume that processing less data per frame (i.e. less pixel count) would help prolong battery life further compared to the R5 for example.
 
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Can I ask a dumb question?

This is from Jeff Cable's latest blog - he's photographing beach volleyball (not sure it it's the R3 or not):

"I set my ISO to 1000, had an aperture of f/3.5, which gave me the desired shutter speed of 1/1000 sec."

Why wouldn't a Pro sports photographer dial in and set his shutter speed in first (say in shutter priority or manual with auto-ISO) of 1/1000 and worry about his aperture second and ISO last?

I don't get it.
Because I want to be in full control of my ISO and I want to adjust my exposure compensation without pressing a secondary button first. I've employed many talented shooters that use auto ISO that do not use exposure compensation effectively for this very reason.


There are a small amount of times where I'll shoot full manual (not to be confused with M with an automatic ISO). The rest of the time I'll use aperature priority and hand-hold the choices it makes, essentially shooting mostly manually but letting the camera adjust too if the clouds break/descend and my light jumps 0.7-1.5 stops in a half second, and would ruin a great shot that was perfectly exposed before said cloud.
 
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..a shuttered lens, backwards viewing backwards..
So yeah, I get that 30 FPS almost always means less mp, even though it doesn't have to as a rule....and to be honest, 18mp is enough, and so is 24. AND if I had to I would use the 14mp 5D Classic, but still.....still....

I would rather it be 25 FPS and 30mp, not 30 FPS and 24mp. Save the 24/30FPS for the R1.

24mp for what is definitely going to be a $4899 to $5899 camera? Just to get 30 frames per second? With a BSI sensor, I expected much better. I am not crushed, or angry, but I am bummed about the preorder I had planned. Welp, maybe they will finally eventually release a R5Sr 100mp monster (that does 5 FPS and has 800 usable ISO tops, but hey, 100mp and no low-pass.) Come on 2022.
 
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Can I ask a dumb question?

This is from Jeff Cable's latest blog - he's photographing beach volleyball (not sure it it's the R3 or not):

"I set my ISO to 1000, had an aperture of f/3.5, which gave me the desired shutter speed of 1/1000 sec."

Why wouldn't a Pro sports photographer dial in and set his shutter speed in first (say in shutter priority or manual with auto-ISO) of 1/1000 and worry about his aperture second and ISO last?

I don't get it.
He is still focusing on stutter speed.
 
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The A7SIII is a primary video camera above stills.

Sony has the A9 series as their standard resolution sports body and the A1 as their flagship. Canon are releasing a non flagship body after Sony already have and just before Nikon release theirs.
Some will be happy to be getting the R3 but going from some of the comments there’s definitely some disappointment as well.
I get that. My point being there are reasons to release lower MP cameras opposed to the person who insinuated Canon was living in 2015 or some such year with the R3 due to 24mp. It seems only Sony is allowed to have specialized cameras.
 
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Quite impressive! Perhaps this battery life goes some way to confirm the 24mp. I would assume that processing less data per frame (i.e. less pixel count) would help prolong battery life further compared to the R5 for example.
Good point. When I got the first 5DS I was surprised how it ate through battery power compared with the 5DII
 
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I get that. My point being there are reasons to release lower MP cameras opposed to the person who insinuated Canon was living in 2015 or some such year with the R3 due to 24mp. It seems only Sony is allowed to have specialized cameras.
Canon absolutely can have specialised cameras too, the issue for many though is that the A1 is already here, 50mp at 30fps (with compressed RAW) 20fps uncompressed RAW. Nikon have the Z9 coming soon with 45mp at 20pfs or more. A perception is being created that Canon should match those specs in another body that should be coming out at the same time as the R3. The R5 as good as it is, isn't the answer due to its slower sensor read out speed and rolling shutter.
 
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Good point. When I got the first 5DS I was surprised how it ate through battery power compared with the 5DII
It's more complicated than that. My 30 Mpx 5DIV burns through batteries compared with my 50 Mpx 5DSR, and the CIPA ratings for the 5DIV are 700 shots compared with 900 for the 5DSR. Power consumption by the processor etc is important. With my R5 when I am using EFCS and not taking bursts I get from a few hundred to 600 shots per charge. At 20 fps in ES I can easily get a couple of thousand, but very many identical. The guy with the R3 would have been firing away at 30 fps for only 9 minutes to chalk up his 16000. I am not going to actuate the R5 continuously to see how many I can get!
 
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If you consider the importance of a rapid reaction time, the R3 battery makes sense. The camera will often need to be on all the time in the sense that a DSLR is on all the time.

And the Mpx might be a bit on the high side for the intended customers. Given that the 1DX iii is 20Mpx and there appears to be no complaints from the customers.

When you sit and wait for something to happen and something happens, you bring up your R5 or R6 to your eye, you get a black wall for at least half a second before you can see what is going on. That is enough time for whatever was happening to have happened and the world is completely uninteresting again.

If you want the same reaction time with a mirrorless as with a 1DX mark iii, you will use battery like there is no tomorrow.

So for wildlife and action photography a 1DX iii or s 7D2 for that matter, makes sense. I discovered that trying to photograph seagulls in flight with a R6.
 
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When you sit and wait for something to happen and something happens, you bring up your R5 or R6 to your eye, you get a black wall for at least half a second before you can see what is going on. That is enough time for whatever was happening to have happened and the world is completely uninteresting again.

If you want the same reaction time with a mirrorless as with a 1DX mark iii, you will use battery like there is no tomorrow.

So for wildlife and action photography a 1DX iii or s 7D2 for that matter, makes sense. I discovered that trying to photograph seagulls in flight with a R6.
I half-press the shutter the instant I begin to bring the camera up to my eye and the camera is fully active by the time it gets there. Get into the habit of doing that and you won't hit the black wall! It's your technique not the camera that is the problem.
 
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I half-press the shutter the instant I begin to bring the camera up to my eye and the camera is fully active by the time it gets there. Get into the habit of doing that and you won't hit the black wall! It's your technique not the camera that is the problem.
AlanF this is great advice. It took me a couple of weeks to adjust from a 1Dx MkIi to a R5 and this is exactly what I do when photographing wildlife with the R5. As long as one half pressed the shutter as one brings the camera to one's eye one will rarely miss a shot due to the slower response. Maybe Canon has removed this bottleneck in the R3 or at the very least reduced the lag time.
 
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Given that the 1DX iii is 20Mpx and there appears to be no complaints from the customers.
I know several people, myself included, who decided not to upgrade to the 1DX3 because it didn't offer a resolution bump.

So there's a selection bias in that statement. Customers might have been happy with 20MP but other potential customers were lost.
 
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An R6 with a built-in battery grip.
Well done Canon!

We need a mirrorless pro body with at least 45 mpix and at least 15fps.
How hard is that? Do I speak japanese?
Who wants an R6 in a pro body? Yeah, eye controlled autofocus.. Yeey!

C’mon...
Search results: it looks like you have just reinvented a canon (No. 14)... ;)
 
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