Most folks will whine over anything and everything, I can imagine a 28 page complaint over strap lug placement.
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Most folks will whine over anything and everything, I can imagine a 28 page complaint over strap lug placement.
I agree, I use an UHS-II 64gb SD card in my EOSR and its fast so no buffering. Yes, its not as fast as CF express but then unless you blasting away at 20fps, the SD card should manage and is half the price of CF Express. Keeping the SD card slot is definitely not making it suddenly useless, it makes it cost effective for people who already have UHS-II Cards.why is a UHS-II SD slot suddenly useless?
We have nothing. We know very little. Just a exercise in raising blood pressure. It's a shell under acrylic at WPPI.People get disappointed about things they where looking forward too, it’s human nature. We have something that is almost perfect, so the niggles will be over the smaller things.
I've never experienced my 5D4 JPEGs being more than 25% of its corresponding RAW file's size, and the EOS R JPEGs I have are roughly 30% of their corresponding CR3 files. My JPEGS are always set to the highest quality setting. I don't see how you're getting JPEGs that are 75% or more of their corresponding RAW file.
Can anyone else confirm this? The only time I remember seeing JPEGs comparable in size to RAW is if the JPEG was created later in camera or in software on the computer.
I agree, although the prices of UHS-II and CF Express cards are not in the same price range. I have just been looking as I want new cards anyway to supplement my existing UHS-11card and 64GB cards from Sandisk are £94 for UHS-II and £174 for CF Express so almost double the price. The UHS-11 card I have whilst not matching the 800mb/s write speed of the CF Express equivelant is still pretty fast at 260mb/s and is specifically designed for 4K video capture. I think its a reasonable compromise and recognises existing customers won't want to buy all new cards rendering their current one's to the bin.I am a bit hesitant to jump back into this, but most posts I read are falling into two camps:
Camp "A": This CR2 rumor, if true, confirms two card slots (some are excited about even this) and as CF Express and UHS II are very good for many conditions, this continues to indicate the R5 is a significant step up for the "5" lineup (people are overjoyed)!
Camp "B": Crunching numbers and UHS II SD cards cannot keep up with the higher end specs (12/20 fps, high end video) and it will impact certain styles of shooters (RAW to both cards, people that shot cards in sequence so as not to stop the action, etc). This group, also pointing out that most SD cards people already have won't come close to keeping up with the higher end specs (mine are all UHS-I), therefore purchasing new, high end UHS-II cards, which are basically in the same price range as CF Express cards will be needed. So, spending the same money, on something that is still incapable of the higher end specs.
So, Camp A is about continued improvement over the EOS R and 5DIV. Camp B is about the eye-popping specs we have seen we now know will be somewhat limited.
Interesting to me, both Camps are correct. Just the perspectives are different. Yet, some of the critisisms I am seeing of Camp B...seriously? Yes, the R5 will still be a great camera, but this is the first sign that it will be limited compared to the eye popping specs we've seen.
The biggest complainers are non-buyers in the first place. One of the biggest complaints about the R is where the on/off switch is.Most folks will whine over anything and everything, I can imagine a 28 page complaint over strap lug placement.
Believe me, if there were no SD slot there would be people complaining over that too. I get that not everyone can be pleased, but there comes a point where the complaints are over wrought outrage for the sake of outrage. If I were to buy an R5 (huge if) I wouldn't be happy that I had to spend on a CFE card, but I wouldn't be crying on the forum about it page after page. It's the same mental hysteria that gives us the volumes and technical arguments over 1/2 stop of DR. 3,2,1...I agree, although the prices of UHS-II and CF Express cards are not in the same price range. I have just been looking as I want new cards anyway to supplement my existing UHS-11card and 64GB cards from Sandisk are £94 for UHS-II and £174 for CF Express so almost double the price. The UHS-11 card I have whilst not matching the 800mb/s write speed of the CF Express equivelant is still pretty fast at 260mb/s and is specifically designed for 4K video capture. I think its a reasonable compromise and recognises existing customers won't want to buy all new cards rendering their current one's to the bin.
20fps with probably 60mb - 1,2gb/s
This can be written without any buffering to the CFE card. But it means constant buffering and lags on a SD card.
Were you still able to get the "moment"?I recall being underwhelmed that the SD slot in my 5DIV was limited to UHS-1. I got over it...
I'm glad they have two different slots. The small slot for JPEG backups is nice. Also nice in those times when you want to record raw on the main card, but JPEG on the small card for ability to hand the card immediately to someone with a reader to print/transfer the file. If you had two CFExpress slots then you would have to bring the bulky reader with you or plug to the camera.
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I thought Canon planned on solving this dilemma with the introduction in Apr 2020 of their new Cloud Platform??
Believe me, if there were no SD slot there would be people complaining over that too. I get that not everyone can be pleased, but there comes a point where the complaints are over wrought outrage for the sake of outrage. If I were to buy an R5 (huge if) I wouldn't be happy that I had to spend on a CFE card, but I wouldn't be crying on the forum about it page after page. It's the same mental hysteria that gives us the volumes and technical arguments over 1/2 stop of DR. 3,2,1...
So it is a single slot camera with a useless SD slot for absolute last resort moments.
I'm just pissed there isn't a 1TB SSD. No way am I buying the R5 now!People are not happy with the 2 heterogeneous cards slots, sadly.
How about 3? Then the fight were: Should it be 2 CFE and 1 SD or 2 SD and 1 CFE --> also no good.
Thats why we need 4 card slots: 2 CFE and 2 SD, or(?), wait a second ....
Sure...I agree, although the prices of UHS-II and CF Express cards are not in the same price range. I have just been looking as I want new cards anyway to supplement my existing UHS-11card and 64GB cards from Sandisk are £94 for UHS-II and £174 for CF Express so almost double the price. The UHS-11 card I have whilst not matching the 800mb/s write speed of the CF Express equivelant is still pretty fast at 260mb/s and is specifically designed for 4K video capture. I think its a reasonable compromise and recognises existing customers won't want to buy all new cards rendering their current one's to the bin.
I'm just pissed there isn't a 1TB SSD. No way am I buying the R5 now!
But seriously, although the R series is new territory, I was 99% sure there would be mismatched cards on the camera at this price level. Still, this is going to be one heck of a camera. It would be nice if there were two matched cards, but everyone had to be pretty sure they wouldn't be. I am quite shocked the 1DX Mark III has two matching slots.
Joe, which of your three lenses do you find yourself using most?
"I am quite shocked the 1DX Mark III has two matching slots."
Why? That makes sense as it is the full pro gear ...