The Canon EOS R6 Mark III will be good, but not revolutionary

[Daniel Lindblom]

How about a top lcd screen?

 

[Exploreshootshare]

They've already made their money on the sensor from the R3, and there doesn't need to be a ton of R&D investment in design and manufacturing. OLED isn't expensive anymore, you can find OLED screens on $150 phones.

I don´t think a price bump is due to R&D costs, but the mkiii will have (according to rumors) three new meaningful features and significant updates (stacked sensor/ tilt screen/ OLED screen), two canons first (which is always good for marketing) and few other new things, so I'm pretty sure they'll raise the retail price. Come fall, the rebates and cash back will kick in and bring it back to the 2.500 € area. (probably more like 2.600 €).

Imho, the updates between the mki and mkii were not as significant as these updates are (more like ironing out weaknesses), still there was a 12% bump for the retail price.

 

[Bob Howland]

Except that the builtin stacking does not seem to run at 40fps! On my R8 it doesn’t, maybe on the R6II it does.

What shutter speed are you using? Slower that 1/60 won't taking advantage of the 40FPS. What others are pointing out is that the R6-2 has a fairly small buffer. I'd like a larger buffer but I'm not spending double or triple the money to get it.

 

[koenkooi]

What shutter speed are you using? Slower that 1/60 won't taking advantage of the 40FPS. What others are pointing out is that the R6-2 has a fairly small buffer. I'd like a larger buffer but I'm not spending double or triple the money to get it.

Mostly 1/400s for macro, 1/100s if I can use a tripod.

 

[David_B]

*yawn* did I miss the R6III announcement yet? wake me up when there's something interesting to read, like the rumors about the R6IV.

 

[Gert Arijs]

I hoped it would have a GPS, that's the only thing i miss on the R6-2.

 

[deorum]

i'll be happy with 14bit full depth, while using the e-shutter. A small improvement in sensor readout speed is also welcomed.

 

[navastronia]

It missing eye-control AF gives me pause. I might not buy one.

 

[GMCPhotographics]

The 40 FPS on the R6 Mark II is limited to a burst of 2 seconds, while the 30 FPS on the R5 II and R3 is pretty much unlimited till the card is full, same goes for the 40 FPS on the R1. So the truly continuous / unlimited 30 FPS is far more useful to capture sports and action.

Where are you getting this data from? Are you confusing the burst raw mode witht he ES HS+ buffer?
According to my R6ii, I seem to be able to be able to churn through 40fps until the buffer fills up, then it's only slowed because it's writing to the card. On my camera and card combo, that's about 90 RAWs (2.5 seconds), or about 120 CRAWs for about 3.5 seconds. Which I belive is about the same as the R5ii. The original R5 had a longer 7 seconds HS+ duration in ES mode because of the 20fps limit. If I dial inthe same setting on my R6ii, ES HS (20fps) RAW, I seem to be able to shoot for around 12 seconds before the buffer fills, around 250 raw files. The data through put is roughly the same for all three cameras. it's jus tthe internal buffer size that limts the time duration before the camera needs to dump the files to the card reader. If you dial the R5ii or the R6ii down to 20fps you get more shooting time because the buffer is filling slower. What we are seeing here is the camera's internal buffer maxing out before the camera tips the files onto the card reader.

According to Duade Paton, the R5 and R5II have the same buffer size. The R5II has around 90 RAW frames of buffer in ES HS+ (30fps) mode. if you dial it to 20, you get more. CRAWs I belive the buffer is around 230 shots before the buffer maxxes. Whihc are the same figures I'm seeing on my R6II with the same settings dialled in.

The R3 gets 30 fps for 150 shots, which is 5 seconds by my math. I can't dial in 30 fps into my R6II. My Maths makes that R3's buffer about 1/3 bigger than the R6ii / R5II's buffer. Maybe Canon should invest in some bigger buffer chips than the OLED screen?

On the R6ii there is a pre capture and Burst mode that allows a 0.5 second (20 frames) of shooting combined into a single raw frame to be decoded in post production.

 

[Chig]

Don't see why the fps would be only 30 fps instead of the 40 fps in the R6 ii

 

[GMCPhotographics]

It missing eye-control AF gives me pause. I might not buy one.

Your kidding me...right?

 

[Chig]

How about a top lcd screen?

I hope not

 

[Chig]

Hope they swap the video/stills switch with the on/off switch: what idiot thought it was good to have a video/stills switch that can't be operated with your right hand?

 

[jam05]

People are confusing the micro OLED EVF with the rear display. Most all camera EVFs are micro OLED. And most all camera rear displays are LCDs and some are touch LCDs. Canon has the best touch LCDs. I know no mirrorless cameras that have a rear touch screen OLEDs. And certainly not massed produced in any quantity. They couldn't even get drivers for the limited amount rear displays they could manufacture only a couple of years ago. Only a handfull of manufacturers mass produce 3 inch displays in any sizeable quantities, LG and Samung being two.

 

[jam05]

I bet that the source has confused the EVF micro OLED with the rear display. As they usually do. Admin comparing the tiny micro OLED with the 3 inch LCD. Different voltage requirements. Substantially.

 

[Del Paso]

Your kidding me...right?

I guess not, I too will never again buy a camera without Eye Control AF!

 

[frankchn]

Sure, or else everyone will switch to Sony like they have been doing for years. Always good when people explain why Canon has been losing market share, or will lose market share, or whatever.

For the full frame mirrorless segment in particular, Sony is very competitive. They were the #1 selling FF brand in the US and worldwide last year, and the A7IV was the best selling FF camera in both units and revenue in the US.

Canon has more FF cameras at the ~$2000 price point or lower (R6II and R8 vs just the A7IV until late in 2023 when they added the A7C2) and newer products (R6II and R8 were launched a year+ after the A7IV), but Sony is still ahead for now.

We are seeing a tangible response from Canon as well: they have sped up the release cycle for the 6 series cameras. 6D (Sep 2012) to 6DII (June 2017) to R6 (July 2020) is about a 3-4 year gap between releases, and R6 (July 2020) to R6II (Nov 2022) to R6III (Q1 2025?) has shortened that to ~2.3 years.

 

[shawnc]

Crossing that off my list. We'll see what the R7 II has before I go buy a refurb R6ii for a lot less money than the iii.

 

[t.linn]

The single biggest upgrade I wanted in the R5 Mark II was the tilt/flip screen. I would have traded away any of the other improvements to the Mark II for that one feature—not that it would have mattered since the 1.6 stop reduction in DR at my most used ISO was a deal killer anyway.

 

[Toni]

Today there is no sense on a 24 MP full-frame camera. Please... Today, every m4/3 or aps-c already has 24 MP...
It's like walk with a Hasselblad with say 30 MP. No sense.
If today a mirrorless full-frame camera had same pixel density that first mirrorless camera, it would have 42 MP.