The Canon EOS R7 Mark II is in the Wild

[Michael Clark]

Cameras like the 5Dii and the 1Ds3 were at the cutting edge of camera developement and the 5Dii was a far later camera, both revolutionary at lauch and state of the art. But a 1Ds3 was looking a little long in the tooth against the 5Dii, except for AF, battery life, ergonomics and buffer.

The 5D Mark II debuted (Sept 2008) almost exactly ten months after the 1Ds mark III (Nov 2007). Even with the rapid pace of advance in technological capabilities of digital cameras from around 2002 through 2012-14 or so, when things started to plateau, ten months was not THAT long.

 

[Michael Clark]

Sorry, but...huh? You could argue that BSI delivers better signal-to-noise (which is true, but while relevant for smartphones it's not really relevant at pixel sizes for ILCs). But better sharpness? Can you support that claim with evidence?

The main difference that BSI can make is with noise (as above, the magnitude of benefit is inversely proportional to pixel size), and the main way that plays out for image quality is dynamic range. In a very relevant comparison, check out the R5 (FSI) vs. the R5II (stacked/BSI). You're asking for a stacked/BSI sensor in the R7II, but in fact the R5 has slightly better dynamic range than the R5II. Having said that, the difference is pretty minor and not likely to have any real-world significance, so yes – the stacked/BSI sensor is better because it has a faster readout meaning less rolling shutter (and the ability to use flash with eShutter), and those are meaningful benefits. But they come from the stacking, not the BSI (even though the latter is required for the former).

It can be argued that noise affects the perception of acutance (which is what most people who use the word "sharpness" actually mean) in either one of two ways. The more noise an image has, the less 'sharp' it is perceived. Until recently with the advent of exceptionally effective AI noise reduction, the more NR applied to reduce the perception of noise, the blurrier the photo became.

 

[Michael Clark]

They may yet kill the current 24mp high speed cam R3 line !

But they did not name the R7 the M7, either. There's a reason for that.

 

[Michael Clark]

I agree with your statement...R7 wheel placement was a huge improvement over the old placement. However many cant seem to learn new ways to use a camera so with too many complaints, now its gone. They should have changed all of there cameras to the R7 wheel placement.

The wheel on the R7 is perfect for using FV mode. It is so easy to change your settings quickly while looking through the viewfinder.

People get set in there ways and I bet many haven't even tried FV mode yet.

Manual mode is a thing of the past after using the R7 and FV with that perfectly placed thumbwheel. Its like riding a bike once you setup along with the above the buttons to access what you need to make setting quickly right inside the viewfinder.

Its been a fantastic change for me. And I am not a young guy. I've used the old method since the start.

I also have a 6D and doesn't bother me using it. So I don't understand this R7 thumb wheel issue many complain about. Does it really cause finger cramps? The old way is more of a finger cramp. IMO

That thumbwheel may be perfectly placed for you, but my thumb doesn't comfortably reach it. I even switch the functions of the Exposure Lock and AF-Start buttons on the back of all of my Canon cameras because I use back button AF for pretty much every shot I take (other than manually focused astrophotography) because my thumb reaches the middle of those three buttons on the top left of the back more naturally than it reaches the left of those same three buttons.

 

[dolina]

Do you think this update will introduce a global shutter or/and computational imaging

 

[AlanF]

Do you think this update will introduce a global shutter or/and computational imaging

No.