The Canon XC10 is Now Shipping

If you couple up a $295 Ninja 2 to the HDMI 2 output of the XC10, you will get 4:2:2 10 bit video, plus the ability to record in ProRes, etc., instead of Canon's new codec which is presently only supported by Edius Pro 8.
 
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Tugela said:
DSLRs are terrible for shooting video with, but the current enthusiast level MILCs are much friendlier to use. Cameras such as the GH4/NX1/a7rII will outperform things like the 5DIII and 7DII by a big margin.

Even if you are putting Magic Lantern on said 5D3..and shooting full blown RAW video out of it from the full frame sensor?

That stuff looks mighty nice that I've seen......
 
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Tugela said:
EduPortas said:
drs said:
EduPortas said:
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Video wise, that F2.8-5.6 is not
completely irrational)
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Please elaborate on that statement. I shoot video since 1986, and worked over two decades by now in feature film film production, but you are the first one who can see an advantage in it. I'm really interested where you see a positive aspect of it. I have obviously missed it so far. Thanks. (I hope I do not sound like a Forum Troll here, if so sorry, not my intention)

Of course, my friend. I'll speak for myself here because of the type of work that I do and and that I like to watch. The basic advantage of using a videocamera versus a DSLR is the combination of a smallish sensor and a lens that behaves properly within a considerable zoom range. That seems to be the case with the XC10.

Generally, you'll get deep DOF with that combo with the added benefit of portability. A F1.4 lens that's soft wide open serves no function, FOR ME, even if it lets in a lot of light into my videocamera. I find DSLRs notoriously difficult to work with because most of them were not designed with video as their priority. Since Canon's 5D Mark II, of course, DSLRs have a special "video allure" that's only justified if you really know how to properly use them. I would much rather work with a solid parfocal system.

That's what I meant with my statement. I'd gladly pay for the XC10 if Canon delivered a 4K video-centric product that made my ENG easier and be somewhat affordable. Canon ergonomics are welcome.

DSLRs are terrible for shooting video with, but the current enthusiast level MILCs are much friendlier to use. Cameras such as the GH4/NX1/a7rII will outperform things like the 5DIII and 7DII by a big margin.

How so? How are they friendlier than a dedicated videocamera or what seems to be the better design in the XC10?

I also do heavy grading in my ENG material. Today, you're not only preparing your material for a 30 second

clip, but for masses who will see the same video years afterwards in sites like YouTube. You better make it presentable!
 
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Tugela said:
KrisK said:
EduPortas said:
(Contrary to the above poster, I don't mind a deep DOF. In fact, now I

actively search for it when in the field. Video wise, that F2.8-5.6 is not

completely irrational)

Thanks for that. I do wish people would comment on what the camera IS rather than what it's not.

Another sample. Graded footage shows nice color; hightlight rolloff nicer to my eye than the Sony 1" (e.g. X70, AX100.)

https://youtu.be/_Z-lvv1H19Q

Very soft, with massive purple fringing evident at 1:11

Yes, I've seen that purple fringing in detail against high-contrast skies in other clips.

The softness might be a function of default settings in customizable profiles, which Canon calls 'Looks.'

Compare the first two Looks in the following clip (not mine):

https://youtu.be/z7lzKweq3TM?t=11

The difference in sharpness is striking, and, apparently, controllable. Look #1 seems as sharp as similar cameras, without looking oversharpened. But:
I don't have a 4K monitor, so I'd like to know what others make of the sharpness.
 
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As we know, Canon XC10 can record 4K and 1080p high definition video using MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 compression and the footage is wrapped in an MXF container. However, MXF format can't be natively supported by many professional video editing applications including FCP 6, FCP 7 and even the Final Cut Pro X. In addition, it also would be a bit hard to handle 4K video with Final Cut Pro 6/7. That's reason why so many users are facing troubles when transferring Canon XC10 MXF files into Final Cut Pro. That's the reason why I get some help from third-party software.
 
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