Thoughts on the New EOS-1D X Firmware 1.1.1

[AmbientLight]

Do you run both 1D-Xs with the exact same settings? I also experience the blink once upon achieving focus and of course I am quite happy with it. Different configuration settings and corresponding camera usage may still result in different behaviour, but since you are a couple, you should be able to sort this out pretty quickly. If you double-check your configurations are exactly the same and how you use the cameras is exactly the same, does it still come out with different results?

I am just wondering here, because it appears to be quite strange to experience such different results without something actually being different. You should run some tests here and if you do find something strange, it would be a good idea to have CPS see to it.

 

[Speed]

The problem occurs with the exact same settings. I loaded the config from one camera to the other.

 

[JaxPhotoBuff]

The problem occurs with the exact same settings. I loaded the config from one camera to the other.

I am having the exact same issue described by Speed. Frequent "subdued" flashing of the entire grid plus the AF Point, not just the AF point, and it flashes even when you are not actively auto-focusing in AI Servo.

 

[Speed]

I sent an email to Canon support so hopefully I'll hear back from them soon.

 

[Jan van Holten]

Autofocus at F8 is great, but the blinking red light is terrible and certainly not usable for people suffering from schizophrenic ( no joke and no I'am not ) ) Make it solid, nobody complained about it with former cameras. It's not logical thinking. Must be a smaller problem to fix then to achieve the AF-F8 problem.

Jan

 

[Jan van Holten]

Autofocus at F8 is great, but the blinking red light is terrible and certainly not usable for people suffering from schizophrenic and epilepsy ( no joke and no I'am not ) ) Make it solid, nobody complained about it with former cameras. It's not logical thinking. Must be a smaller problem to fix then to achieve the AF-F8 problem.

Jan

In regard to an article, the red light can foolisch the lightning meter in some cases,...... they think.
Oke, how large can be the effect and amongst what kind of conditions????

Make the light solid an provide the possibilty to turn it off or reduce the intensity of the red light

 

[Loswr]

Make it solid, nobody complained about it with former cameras. It's not logical thinking. Must be a smaller problem to fix then to achieve the AF-F8 problem.

It's a technical problem. Previous models used etched focus screens, so the points could be illuminated with a more focused light from a more oblique angle. The AF points are on a transmissive LCD, and that required a more direct illumination angle with a broader light source.

 

[Jan van Holten]

Make it solid, nobody complained about it with former cameras. It's not logical thinking. Must be a smaller problem to fix then to achieve the AF-F8 problem.

It's a technical problem. Previous models used etched focus screens, so the points could be illuminated with a more focused light from a more oblique angle. The AF points are on a transmissive LCD, and that required a more direct illumination angle with a broader light source.

You seems to know the technical aspects!! What was wrong with the former system???
Black focuspoints are much less usable then red ones in certain conditions. And that is what it's all about.
If a new system is developed, make sure it is a better one, at least as userfriendly as the former one.

Jan

 

[Loswr]

What was wrong with the former system???
Black focuspoints are much less usable then red ones in certain conditions. And that is what it's all about.
If a new system is developed, make sure it is a better one, at least as userfriendly as the former one.

I think the point is versatility. With the etched screen, all the points are there, all the time (and 61 densely packed points is a lot!). With the transmissive LCD, you can choose to display only the active point(s), there's an easy visual indicator of regular vs. spot AF vs. expansion, you have an on-demand viewfinder grid as opposed to needing to swap a focus screen, you can have the electronic level displayed in the VF, etc.

IMO, there are big advantages to the LCD.

 

[Viggo]

Not sure if it's new with the new firmware, but anyone else experienced heavy underexpose with the 1d X and the 135 L?

 

[Loswr]

Not sure if it's new with the new firmware, but anyone else experienced heavy underexpose with the 1d X and the 135 L?

Nope - just tried it (v1.1.1 firmware), exposures with the 135L are perfect, both wide open and stopped down, indoors and outside.

 

[Viggo]

Not sure if it's new with the new firmware, but anyone else experienced heavy underexpose with the 1d X and the 135 L?

Nope - just tried it (v1.1.1 firmware), exposures with the 135L are perfect, both wide open and stopped down, indoors and outside.

Hmm, strange..have you downloaded a correction profile for it? Just a thought that heavy vignetting covered the background. But I tried a bunch of different. Subjects, and it's the first time I needed EC, and 2 stops! And my camera is already set to +5/8 as 0 ev..

 

[Jan van Holten]

What was wrong with the former system???
Black focuspoints are much less usable then red ones in certain conditions. And that is what it's all about.
If a new system is developed, make sure it is a better one, at least as userfriendly as the former one.

I think the point is versatility. With the etched screen, all the points are there, all the time (and 61 densely packed points is a lot!). With the transmissive LCD, you can choose to display only the active point(s), there's an easy visual indicator of regular vs. spot AF vs. expansion, you have an on-demand viewfinder grid as opposed to needing to swap a focus screen, you can have the electronic level displayed in the VF, etc.

IMO, there are big advantages to the LCD.

You've got some good points and I do use some of them. I'am not familiair with all the technical details I have to admit. But still, the blinking is very distracting and I have never liked disco. I turned it off already, it drives me a bit crazy. I would like to see some more information about when the lightning meter is fooled and how big is the impact. Canon should give us the option to be red all the time, the blinking option or to turn it off. I mostly shoot in daylight condition and I suppose there will be no effect during these circumstances. In this way it's not nice to use.

 

[Loswr]

@ Viggo - No, I haven't downloaded any lens profiles (and I have PIC turned off, too). The vignetting is there wide open, but the exposure is fine.

 

[Viggo]

Thanks a lot! I'll try some more and pop by a store and try another lens and and a 70-200 @135 just to rule it out. Haven't discovered this earlier as I'm not a heavy user of the longer'ish lenses...

 

[Viggo]

@ Viggo - No, I haven't downloaded any lens profiles (and I have PIC turned off, too). The vignetting is there wide open, but the exposure is fine.

I downloaded the correction profile, and it works, but the 135 measures darker consistently compared to the 85 and 50 framed pretty equal and under the same exact light on a pure white door. the 50 and 85 chooses the same settings, whilst the 135 gives me a faster shutter. (1/200 for the 85 gives 1/250s with the 135, 1/125s vs 1/160s etc.) outside it looks like I'm using spot metering on a bright subject against a dark background.

 

[stringfellow1946]

Help,needed please
I’ve just downloaded the new firmware version 1.1.1 & the auto focus point is still black in AI Servo? But still flashes red in one shot. Any ideas.
I have re downloaded the firmware twice & reinstalled it 4 times & it’s still the same not lighting up red in AI Servo.

 

[Loswr]

Help,needed please
I’ve just downloaded the new firmware version 1.1.1 & the auto focus point is still black in AI Servo? But still flashes red in one shot. Any ideas.
I have re downloaded the firmware twice & reinstalled it 4 times & it’s still the same not lighting up red in AI Servo.

Erm...did you turn it on in the settings? AI Servo point illumination is off by default.

 

[stringfellow1946]

Help,needed please
I’ve just downloaded the new firmware version 1.1.1 & the auto focus point is still black in AI Servo? But still flashes red in one shot. Any ideas.
I have re downloaded the firmware twice & reinstalled it 4 times & it’s still the same not lighting up red in AI Servo.

Erm...did you turn it on in the settings? AI Servo point illumination is off by default.

Yes its was turned on, I think I’ve now sorted it AF menu5, option No 2, I’ve selected the first option (Selected constant) & it now seems to be working, continually flashing. But I’m not 100% convinced that this was the problem as I’ve now set it back to all constant as I think that where it was before & it now works ok there? Strange.

NB if I select option 3 (selected pre-AF focused) or 4 (selected focused) then the AF point flashes once & then disappears. Is this correct?

 

[Loswr]

AF5 menu option 3, VF display illumination, press set, then Q, then set it to Illuminated. But yes, I have menu item 2 set to selected/constant, but it flashes in servo with other settings there (pre focus, etc.,) except off.

Actually, with display during focus set to off but servo illumination on, the red light flashes anyway, but no points are illuminated. That seems wrong, although that may be intentional, Canon might think we want the grid display to flash or something...