Touchscreen Coming to EOS 5D Mark IV? [CR1]

[scyrene]

I would have to think Canon's efforts are best spent on making the sharpest pictures (IQ, low light, sensor, ISO) possible and leave the gimmicks to the lower tiered series (7 and 6). I cannot imagine many wedding photographers needing to shoot too many pictures from the hip and not look through the viewfinder.

It needn't be either/or - you think adding a different kind of screen means they don't have the resources to address other issues? Really?

And why is it a gimmick? Needlessly snobbish view.

 

[sunnyVan]

I think WiFi functionality would be enough to address low angle shooting. I'd take Wifi over flip screen.

 

[eguzowski]

The Flip Out touch Screen is a MUST DO! Im a professional event photographer and videographer and this feature is 100% desired! I use to be a full time photojournalist for 10 years working for The New York Times, Associated Press and Ive been published in National Geographic.

The weddings with a 5D3 and a 70D. I use the 70D for stills or video because of the articulating touch screen. To get an shot while the camera is on the floor is awesome and quick with the flip articulating screen and a must for overhead type of shots of dancing etc. When shooting video the touch screen is awesome and having it articulate is a must. I bought a EOS cinema C100 but I felt it clumsy for shooting wedding, the view finder useless and not nearly as user friendly as the 70D. The articulating screen with awesome video auto focus on a 5D IV would be 2x-3x better in low light than the 70D. I have to shoot the 70D with a Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 DC HSM Art Lens.

Im seriously considering moving to Sony if Canon doesn't make an articulating touch screen for the 5D IV...I see no need to be loyal to a company whom doesn't keep up with the competition.

Erik
www.ExhalePhotoJournalism.com

 

[Pookie]

A flip touch screen... comes with lenspen and Chinese knock off rocket blower too. Will also be available only at Costco :

 

[Luds34]

Interesting rumor. I too would have thought the 6D would get an articulating and touch screen first. Unless the next 6D will be consisted pro.

My question is, if implemented on a 5D, what happens with the buttons on the left of the screen? Surely they would have to go/move right?

As far as the articulating screens go, I enjoy it on my 70D. Don't use it too often but when you do it is nice to have. With that said I probably miss the touch more (for photo review) more then the flipiness on my 6D.

 

[RGF]

Nooooo...

The more gimmicks, the less chance of a sensor breakthrough.

Ok, maybe I could live with A rugged well executed touch screen. But a flip screen is just a hazard.

the more gimmicks the greater the chance of something breaking

 

[candc]

I really like the 70d because of the t/s screen. I've had problems with touch screen phones when they get some moisture on them and go all haywire (especially in winter) but no problems with the camera. I don't think fragility is an issue but it should have an option to be disabled if the conditions are bad.

 

[Etienne]

The Flip Out touch Screen is a MUST DO! Im a professional event photographer and videographer and this feature is 100% desired! I use to be a full time photojournalist for 10 years working for The New York Times, Associated Press and Ive been published in National Geographic.

The weddings with a 5D3 and a 70D. I use the 70D for stills or video because of the articulating touch screen. To get an shot while the camera is on the floor is awesome and quick with the flip articulating screen and a must for overhead type of shots of dancing etc. When shooting video the touch screen is awesome and having it articulate is a must. I bought a EOS cinema C100 but I felt it clumsy for shooting wedding, the view finder useless and not nearly as user friendly as the 70D. The articulating screen with awesome video auto focus on a 5D IV would be 2x-3x better in low light than the 70D. I have to shoot the 70D with a Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 DC HSM Art Lens.

Im seriously considering moving to Sony if Canon doesn't make an articulating touch screen for the 5D IV...I see no need to be loyal to a company whom doesn't keep up with the competition.

Erik
www.ExhalePhotoJournalism.com

+1000

Great post, but you'll never convince the "professionals" who "know" that no good pictures are taken with the camera over your head, on the ground, or in a tight spot. Everyone knows that you have to stand up straight and shoot with the camera against your eye to be a professional. Somehow, without ever using a swivel screen, they "know" that it is fragile and will break just before they need to take that once in a lifetime shot. And of course, a touchscreen is a toy for amateurs, like auto-focus.

 

[Ogreatkman]

I shoot a fair amount of promo and other videos of that sort, my 7d2

 

[TeT]

about what I expected to read based on the title.

I am sure the new source sited lives under a bridge...

 

[Bennymiata]

Nooooo...

The more gimmicks, the less chance of a sensor breakthrough.

Ok, maybe I could live with A rugged well executed touch screen. But a flip screen is just a hazard.

the more gimmicks the greater the chance of something breaking

So you use a manual focus camera with no built-in light meter?
I guess your camera doesn't have a motor drive and you still wind your own film too?

I also do weddings, events as well as product and food photography (professionally) and usually take my 70d along with my 5d3's for video as the flippy screen is just so handy to use.
Until you've used a flippy screen, you don't know how good they are.

 

[erjlphoto]

I' thinking a touchscreen is more likely to show up on the 6D mkii

 

[TeT]

I' thinking a touchscreen is more likely to show up on the 6D mkii

Yes Please...

 

[Luds34]

I' thinking a touchscreen is more likely to show up on the 6D mkii

Yes Please...

As long as the 6D mark II was brought up, can I request more focal points? ;D

 

[iowapipe]

This was a funny set of responses to read. When I read the article I immediately wondered what the pro/con responses would be like. Kudos to everyone not taking it personally when disagreements came up.

As someone who bought the 5D3 as an upgrade from an aged XTi and a few point-and-shoots (and a film camera)... I knew after all my research that I was going to buy the 5D3 for one reason above the rest: low light capability. Fortunately I was able to buy one for my workplace first, test it out (develop some actual skills) and then 6 months later buy my own. Some may well buy the new 5D for that 'one' reason = the screen.

It seems from reading these responses that the people who utilize tiltable and touchable screens in their livelihood may be the ones that will lead us all toward an option we didn't know we'd utilize quite so much.

 

[infared]

Hmmmm...The rumor says a "tilt" screen...that does not mean a "flip" or "articulating" screen to me.
An Olympus OM-D EM-5 has a "tilt" screen...versatile...yet sturdy. It does offer improved function. I shoot stills only...but I guess a flip screen would be good for video...right?
A touch screen "option" might be interesting if implemented well!

 

[EdA78A]

For events photography, I hope the new camera does not have touch screen nor flip screen. These features are not needed and will just add too many things to break.

 

[gunship01]

I would have to think Canon's efforts are best spent on making the sharpest pictures (IQ, low light, sensor, ISO) possible and leave the gimmicks to the lower tiered series (7 and 6). I cannot imagine many wedding photographers needing to shoot too many pictures from the hip and not look through the viewfinder.

Because 5D owners only shoot weddings. Come on.

I don't even want a flip screen but it's inevitable for a host of reasons.

And the argument that a flip screen is stealing resources from improving sensors don't hold water. The staff who work on those things are quite different in skillset -- "Sorry, world class sensor designer Dave and data handling / noise processing ringer Lisa, we need you to stop with your mission critical on-chip ADC work and knock out a flippy screen for us. Chop chop."

I appreciate a project has a budget and everything has a price, but it's not like in the planning stages of the project Canon could have traded away that proposed flippy screen for two stops more DR at ISO 100. Those are apples and oranges to deliver.

- A

Valid points.

My reference of the wedding photographers was a pick of the many professions which use higher end camera systems. It was not my intent to claim that only 5D users only shoot weddings.

I posit that the lion's share of what the end users/clients desire out of a camera of that caliber is not a flip/touch-screen. Even if it was #10 on the list of most desired attributes, then why develop and include in cameras capabilities few desire just because it is possible? Does the business model not support prioritization? I contend it should.

 

[quod]

Once you use a hinged screen you realize just how limiting a fixed screen is. I love my 5DIII but I've lost count of the number of times I've wished I had my old 60D's rotating screen. These arguments against tilting and articulating screens are tiring.

Agreed 100%. I've had both cameras and the 60D articulating screen is awesome. I've had the camera ~4yrs and I have yet to remotely break it off or muck it up in any way. I have, however, scratched up my 5D3 fixed screen.

 

[ktatty]

The issue with an articulating screen on a 5D-class camera was never about fragility, as far as I recall, but more to do with the problems guaranteeing weather sealing.

Agreed. Would be tough to weather seal.