We better start a new thread on the potential specs of 5D MK IV really soon ;DLetTheRightLensIn said:
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Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
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Rienzphotoz said:
i won't be satisfied unless it is over 80MP's with 1342 stops of DR, I also want it to make coffee, and have 2 million AF points....lol
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lolage said:
I fail to see the logic here. You say you can wait a year, but not two years? That's silly. Either you need a camera like the 5D3, or you don't. It sounds like you can get by without it for now. If you're wanting to use it to do important or professional work, then I would say buy one now...especially going into the holidays when there's bound to be a deal. Personally I can wait until the 5D4, unless something else comes along first. But that's because I love my 6D, and the video from it works fine for my needs. I've yet to see any moire from it, but I don't shoot a lot of closeups of people wearing striped suits. If I was doing very much quality video work, I would probably have bought both a 5D3 and a cinema camera, along with all the ringing that's required to do pro work.
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Agreed, except for the coffee part ... I want it to make piping hot Chai Latte with Ginger ;DChuck Alaimo said:
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Will it to make piping hot Chai Latte with Ginger, better than the MK IV? ;DJanbo Makimbo said:
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Janbo Makimbo said:
You might be correct there, but the big splash with mirrorless and electronic viewfinder (and helpers like in-vf focus peaking) is yet to come - today Canon has to build a high-end dslr system for 14fps, tomorrow you'll get 140fps on a Rebel. But this won't be in the next generation, so buying an "old-school" phase af system now is nothing to worry about.
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Years away from M4. Just buy a M3 and make some $ while waiting for the new one.
...no brainer.
I was one of those guys who bought my M3 immediately. I had a friend who waited eight months and then tried to rub it into my face that he'd saved a couple of hundred dollars on his.
He neglected to realize, and I didn't point out, that I'd had eight months of producing amazing photos with super happy clients. I'd made multiples of his savings from clients as well as greatly increased my client and referral base.
don't dork around anymore. just get the dang thing. you'll not regret it.
...no brainer.
I was one of those guys who bought my M3 immediately. I had a friend who waited eight months and then tried to rub it into my face that he'd saved a couple of hundred dollars on his.
He neglected to realize, and I didn't point out, that I'd had eight months of producing amazing photos with super happy clients. I'd made multiples of his savings from clients as well as greatly increased my client and referral base.
don't dork around anymore. just get the dang thing. you'll not regret it.
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Buy it now on sale.
In 1 to two years, get a Mark IV, and use the Mark III as a second body. Problem solved.
Go out, shoot, have fun, don't get "faclempt".
sek
In 1 to two years, get a Mark IV, and use the Mark III as a second body. Problem solved.
Go out, shoot, have fun, don't get "faclempt".
sek
CarlTN said:
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MK1 to MK2 was approx. 3 1/4 years, MK 2 to MK 3 was just 3 years.
For all those saying 2 yrs plus from today's date for MK 4 that would be a gap of at least 3 years 7 months. With technology advancing at such a pace and some new tech for example in the 70D that isn't in the 5D3 what is the reason for thinking that the trend would be for a longer gap?
My money is on early 2015 (literally, I am saving for the big upgrade as I have 3 EFS lenses to replace).
Incidentally there was a rumour on this site last year that there would not be a 7D2 but a higher specced replacement for the 60D - hasn't that come true??
For all those saying 2 yrs plus from today's date for MK 4 that would be a gap of at least 3 years 7 months. With technology advancing at such a pace and some new tech for example in the 70D that isn't in the 5D3 what is the reason for thinking that the trend would be for a longer gap?
My money is on early 2015 (literally, I am saving for the big upgrade as I have 3 EFS lenses to replace).
Incidentally there was a rumour on this site last year that there would not be a 7D2 but a higher specced replacement for the 60D - hasn't that come true??
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sirnose66 said:
We should do a poll
... Imho Canon cannot do a 5d3->5d4 (sensor) update which would outperform the 1dx, and I don't see a 1dx2 in 2015.At the same time unless Canon gets under severe market pressure imho the now collected gimmicks (wifi, gps, touchscreen, dual af sensor for (amateur) video) don't warrant an update a la Nikon d600->d610 yet... the 5d3 is a competent stills camera and a terrific video camera with Magic Lantern raw video, so why rock the boat?
sirnose66 said:
This rumor was about that there wouldn't be a 7d2 _at_all_ but Canon would re-merge 60d+7d1 into a 50d-like update ... which isn't what happened.
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Marsu42 said:sirnose66 said:
We should do a poll
At the same time unless Canon gets under severe market pressure imho the now collected gimmicks (wifi, gps, touchscreen, dual af sensor for (amateur) video) don't warrant an update a la Nikon d600->d610 yet... the 5d3 is a competent stills camera and a terrific video camera with Magic Lantern raw video, so why rock the boat?
sirnose66 said:
This rumor was about that there wouldn't be a 7d2 _at_all_ but Canon would re-merge 60d+7d1 into a 50d-like update ... which isn't what happened.
hmm...I gotta wonder if that may not be correct... It kind of depends on a few things. For 1 --- 1 series bodies tend to have a longer period of time from announcement to hitting the shelves. The 1dx was announced well before the 5d3, but, the 5d3 was on the shelves well before the 1dx. Also, if the 5d4 held a similar fps rate...most of the other features can/could match the 1dx2. My guess is also that the dev of both would run together. the 5d4 will be the slower, smaller 1 series body. of course the 1 series would keep it's built in grip and more robust construction - and be the king of fps!
The kink here is what happens with the big mp body --- what will the form factor/price point be? I think canon will be less worried about cannibalizing 1dx sales with a 5d4 if they also have a big mp beast on the table.
Last speculative guess --- think summer olympics - with that comes the new bodies....so 2016....
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What more could you want than what the 5D Mark III already offers? One that goes out and takes photos and just brings them back to you while you're drinking your morning coffee?
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Marsu42 said:sirnose66 said:
We should do a poll
At the same time unless Canon gets under severe market pressure imho the now collected gimmicks (wifi, gps, touchscreen, dual af sensor for (amateur) video) don't warrant an update a la Nikon d600->d610 yet... the 5d3 is a competent stills camera and a terrific video camera with Magic Lantern raw video, so why rock the boat?
sirnose66 said:
This rumor was about that there wouldn't be a 7d2 _at_all_ but Canon would re-merge 60d+7d1 into a 50d-like update ... which isn't what happened.
Are you, Chuck and others not forgetting the elephant in the room? That is, to learn what Canon will do next, just watch what Nikon introduces first. Didn't the D4 come out before the 1DX, and the 1DX before the 5D3?
The question is, when is the D5 coming out? 2014? Whenever that happens, 6 months later the 1DX successor will come out, and 6 months after that, the 5D4. Am I missing something?
Btw, do any of you own, or have owned, the D3s? I suspect that might be the best performance value in the used pro body market right now (for still images obviously), but I could be wrong. Perhaps the D3, but its high ISO noise was a tad worse. Certainly it's the wrong manufacturer with the wrong grip and mount, but otherwise I bet it would be fun to shoot with if I had alien hands and fingers...haha.
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CarlTN said:
I don't think I've ever touched a pro Nikon or Canon 1d body
... probably never been close to one, not even though a shop window - I'm the low budget guy around here, and as long as it doesn't run Magic Lantern it doesn't interest me anyway.
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CarlTN said:Marsu42 said:sirnose66 said:
We should do a poll
At the same time unless Canon gets under severe market pressure imho the now collected gimmicks (wifi, gps, touchscreen, dual af sensor for (amateur) video) don't warrant an update a la Nikon d600->d610 yet... the 5d3 is a competent stills camera and a terrific video camera with Magic Lantern raw video, so why rock the boat?
sirnose66 said:
This rumor was about that there wouldn't be a 7d2 _at_all_ but Canon would re-merge 60d+7d1 into a 50d-like update ... which isn't what happened.
Are you, Chuck and others not forgetting the elephant in the room? That is, to learn what Canon will do next, just watch what Nikon introduces first. Didn't the D4 come out before the 1DX, and the 1DX before the 5D3?
The question is, when is the D5 coming out? 2014? Whenever that happens, 6 months later the 1DX successor will come out, and 6 months after that, the 5D4. Am I missing something?
Btw, do any of you own, or have owned, the D3s? I suspect that might be the best performance value in the used pro body market right now (for still images obviously), but I could be wrong. Perhaps the D3, but its high ISO noise was a tad worse. Certainly it's the wrong manufacturer with the wrong grip and mount, but otherwise I bet it would be fun to shoot with if I had alien hands and fingers...haha.
i know a few that rock the d3s ---actually, whenever i see a nikon friend asking for upgrade advice they generally recommend the d700 or the d3s...
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