What’s next from Canon?

So the RF15-35mm f/2.8 L IS Z will not be a traditional PowerZoom lens with internal PowerZoom motors but it'll basically be a successor to the RF15-35 f/2.8 L IS USM from 2019 with the possibility to attach an external zooming motor (just like with the RF24-105 f/2.8 Z?

Because a Z lens is NOT a traditional PowerZoom lens. I thought it'd be a lens with an actual internal zooming motor from this tweet below. I'd be happy if it was simply a successor to the RF15-35 f/2.8 L IS USM from 2019 with the option to attach an external motor to keep its size in check. The current RF15-35 is already really large and heavy!

PLEASE don't make the successor even larger Canon!

I can't wait to hear more about the "15-35mm f/2.8L IS with a Z added to the name" and when it might be released. Hopefully before 2026!!!
 
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I don’t expect much difference in traditional IQ, I’d like less rolling shutter for things like birds and insects taking off and, most importantly: flash support for ES.
Stacked sensor, high frequency anti-flicker, flash with electronic shutter, minimal rolling shutter, and definitely killing the mechanical shutter. Using an already existing sensor is the easiest path to achieve that, so yeah, a R6 with R3’s sensor would do.
Understood!
As I posted above, I don't see any of the problems you two named with the Mk II. And I do a lot of high speed shutter shooting with dragonflies and birds.
About anti-flicker, I cannot tell, that it is limiting me.
For me, just the sensor wouldn't be enough to make a Mk III. And the sensor was already there, when the Mk II was released.
If it won't be a Mk III feel free to get the Mk II with good discounts right now ;)
 
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Personal experience. The Big Whites, with their apertures, have huge advantages, but the 100-500 beats them slightly on resolution.
I would be a happy RF 100-500 user if it would be so. Still, I am very pleased with its IQ.
But see here, from the-digital-picture.com:
RF600 vs. RF100-500, RF 600 wins, even with aperture wide open and not stopped down to f/7.1
EF600 III vs. RF100-500, same, the EF is better, esp. in the corners
 
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That's an EF, though. I'm talking about current lenses. RF.

And wait . . . aren't you Mr. Nobody-needs-more-than-24MP? How do you know? Everything resolves great on 24MP!
EF III and RF 600 have the exact same optical formulas. Canon just took the EF lens and made it native to RF adding an "adapter" on the back of the lens, as the EF one is still a very modern design.
 
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And wait . . . aren't you Mr. Nobody-needs-more-than-24MP?
Please show me where I ever stated that nobody needs more than 24 MP.

(And people wonder where I lose respect for other members here...when people start making ridiculous statements like that one, they deserve scorn and ridicule and I don't hesitate to deliver.)

I say...over and over...that no one here can speak for everyone (or even anyone) else. Yet here you go, accusing me of doing exactly that. So if you can't link to a post where I stated that no one needs more than 24 MP, have the decency to apologize for your false accusation. I won't hold my breath, experience suggests that few people are able to admit when they're wrong.

I have certainly said that I personally typically don't need more than 24 MP, though I've also stated that I am not opposed to having more. FWIW, I also use an M6II with a 32 MP APS-C sensor, so I'm no stranger to higher pixel density.
 
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EF III and RF 600 have the exact same optical formulas. Canon just took the EF lens and made it native to RF adding an "adapter" on the back of the lens, as the EF one is still a very modern design.
To be clear, I was talking about the EF 600/4 MkII. The MkIII / RF version is lighter, but not optically better than the MkII. Since I can handhold the MkII, I did not see the point in upgrading.
 
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Because a Z lens is NOT a traditional PowerZoom lens. I thought it'd be a lens with an actual internal zooming motor from this tweet below.
It says "PowerZoonm capable lens". To me, that would not suggest the power zoom is built in, but rather that it's a compatible accessory. Since such an accessory (two versions of it, actually) already exists for the 24-105/2.8 Z lens, it seems pretty clear that a forthcoming 70-200 Z and this rumored 15-35 Z would use that same accessory.

PLEASE don't make the successor even larger Canon!
I expect that the 70-200/Z Z (if it comes) will be the same size as the 24-105/2.8 Z, since the latter is basically the same size as the EF 70-200/2.8 fixed-length zooms. If the intent is use in cinema rigs, there is a good rationale for having a series of lenses that are all the same size. That does raise the possibility that Canon would make a 15-35/2.8 Z of the same size for consistency, even if it does not need to be that large for the optical formula. Would be a little odd IMO, but can't be ruled out. I do suspect it will be shorter, but it will need to have the same diameter as the the RF 24-105/2.8 Z for compatibility with the PZ-E2(±B).
 
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[...]Because a Z lens is NOT a traditional PowerZoom lens[...]
Canon has been calling a number if different things "PowerZoom" over the years, the adapter you bolt to the Z lenses is called the "Canon Power Zoom-adapter PZ-E2". So I don't find it strange that people are calling them PowerZooms, but it is a bit confusing!
 
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Unbelievable, an RF 50mm f/1.4! That would be close to a real wonder, after maybe 20 years of speculation whether Canon would bring an optically improved upgrade in that classic "medium fast" 50mm section. The current EF 50mm f/1.4 hit the market in 1993 and really needs an overhaul. Optically, it is getting very soft in the edges wide open (though very sharp at f/5.6), and its micro USM drive is quite slow, plus it is not very reliably focusing wide open. I had this lens for some years and never was too happy with it.
 
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"We do wonder how similar the image sensors in the EOS R1 and the Cinema EOS C400 are going to be"
@Richard. Are you telling us that c400 has quadpixel sensor like R1 (as per your claim earlier) ? From what we know it is only Dual pixel. Does it mean R1 will not have quadpixel sensor?
The C400 sensor sounds a lot closer to the R3 sensor if we believe the rumoured R1 specs. Rolling shutter on the C400 does seem to be a lot worse than the R3 when CVP measured it, though.
 
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Unbelievable, an RF 50mm f/1.4! That would be close to a real wonder, after maybe 20 years of speculation whether Canon would bring an optically improved upgrade in that classic "medium fast" 50mm section. The current EF 50mm f/1.4 hit the market in 1993 and really needs an overhaul. Optically, it is getting very soft in the edges wide open (though very sharp at f/5.6), and its micro USM drive is quite slow, plus it is not very reliably focusing wide open. I had this lens for some years and never was too happy with it.
But it is an L lens. Not a mid price market lens ;)
 
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So I don't find it strange that people are calling them PowerZooms, but it is a bit confusing!
I agree! Hopefully, this new RF15-35 f/2.8 Z lens will be a successor to the RF15-35 f/2.8 L IS USM from 2019 WITHOUT any kind of internal zooming motor which would only make this lens even bigger and heavier.

And there is actually quite a good chance that this will be the case given that they've now released this Canon Power Zoom-adapter PZ-E2 but they don't have a lot of lenses this expensive gadget can even be attached to.

The rumored RF15-35 f/2.8 Z could even be smaller and lighter despite the "Z" marking on it if it does NOT have any internal motorized zooming mechanism but only the option to attach this Canon Power Zoom adapter. THAT'D BE AMAZING! Hopefully, it'll be released in 2024 or early 2025.
 
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Canon would make a 15-35/2.8 Z of the same size for consistency, even if it does not need to be that large for the optical formula. Would be a little odd IMO, but can't be ruled out. I do suspect it will be shorter, but it will need to have the same diameter as the the RF 24-105/2.8 Z for compatibility with the PZ-E1/2.
That would be a HUGE disappointment! If anything I'd hope for a slightly more compact AND LIGHTER lens.

The RF15-35 f/2.8 and the RF24-105 Z already have the exact same Diameter (88.5mm)
So iff the successor to the RF15-35 f/2.8 L IS USM actually has to match the width to be compatible with the adapter I'd hope for it to at least not gain even more length and weight.

If the RF15-35 Z would get that much longer (match the 199mm of the 24-105 Z) it'd be a huge pain in the a** to balance it on a gimbal.
 
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