What We Want to See in the Retro Canon EOS R8 Mark II

[esspy2]

Just get an R6 Mark II then.
If they did all of that, nobody would buy the R6 Mark II, you would essentially get an R6 Mark II copy in a smaller form factor, for cheaper. How would you, as a company, make sure people still spend more money on the R6 II? Crippling the burst mode is certainly not gonna cut it.

The different control layout and design would be the differentiator. And a smaller form factor with a smaller battery may keep the size and profile smaller than the r6 II. in any case, canon isn’t producing the r6 ii anymore. But yeah if the R8 ii has to compete with the r6 ii used it might be difficult

 

[Exploreshootshare]

I don't like the ring of inputs around the “set” button on Canon's non-scroll-wheel. It's super annoying with my big hands, and it doesn't need to be there. I can't stress how much I hate that thing.

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I don´t like the d-pad (or whatever the correct name is) as well and I also have trouble using because of my big hands. But without a joystick it is the only way of moving the AF areas manually without using the screen. Therefore, if Canon would ditch the d-pad as well and opt not give the camera a joystick, the camera would be a hard pass for me. Maybe they could just improve the ergonomics a bit if they choose not to have a joystick. A scroll wheel is also just an option as long as you have a joystick as well.

 

[Eric84]

Do we know if the R8 mkII will only be available in a retro-design, or will it come with the "regular" design aswell?

As I see it - Canon will have minimal "upgrade-space" without making the price jump up to R6 mkII.
But it would'nt make sense that the only difference between the R8 and the R8 mkII is the retro design.

The only things that make me consider the R6 mkII over the original R8 are:
- Battery-life
- Recording time in 4k30/60 without overheating
- Mechanical shutter (for use with studioblitz)
. IBIS

As I said - I know most of it cannot be implemented before the price equals the R6 mkII, but I hope at least the first two can be implemented with a slightlig bigger camerabody for more batteryspace and coolingvents.. Maybe change the cardslot to CFexpress Type B instead of making a 2-slot solution. Fullsize HDMI-output.

 

[Tom R5R7]

On the topic of retro-looking lenses, the 50/1.8 is about as retro an optics design as it gets. What's more retro than the good old 50/1.8 Gaussian optics design?

Although I wouldn't feel bad if it had an actual working aperture ring and distance scale with depth-of-field guide marks on it like lenses of that era. Something like the FD 50 f/2, FD 85/1.8, or FD 28 f/2. Something that fit the time frame in both looks and function. Of course, it would still be an AF lens, but with manual focus and all that it entails. Same with the aperture.

 

[Ozarker]

Well, I'm sort of laughing at myself. My original R is starting to maybe be getting old? It still looks new, actually, but this might be a good budget upgrade? Dang. This thing sounds like a sports car to me.

 

[Old Man FL/FD]

You're on a rumor site, it's all about distraction, dreams, and wasting a bit of time...

A ‘retro’ camera is not for me, as I already have a real one. I’ll leave it to the influencers and trend-setters.

After a little brainstorming, I came up with a list of whimsical features for your entertainment. Some of you who have never owned a SLR might not ‘get’ all of these, but hopefully at least one makes you smile.

• Retro lens caps for retro lenses – anything goes!
• Sharp, angular lines required to entice Canon-curious Sony fanboys
• ASA/DIN numbers instead of ISO for ‘film’ speed settings
• EVF ‘ground glass’ simulation mode
• Manual Focus confirmation ‘split image’ and ‘microprism’ simulation modes
• Memory card eject button shaped like a film rewind button
• After memory card formatted in-camera, 2-3 ‘dead’ frames required before images taken
• Next exposure not possible until ‘film advance’ lever cranked
• Manual exposure ‘needle’ for light level and index coupled to lens aperture setting for ‘match needle’ manual exposure
• Besides flash X-sync, a flash bulb sync setting (different than ‘B” bulb shutter speed)
• Monochrome Picture Styles – Sepia, Selenium and ‘Ansel Adams’
• ‘Spinning gear” sound for long exposure times and self-timer
• Haptic feedback for ‘mirror slap’
• Image review mode display would show two spools – supply and take up. The images between them would have film sprocket holes. The image number would be in the sprocket hole borders. In film simulation mode, the name of the film stock would appear here also. Advancing forward and backward would move the spools and images correspondingly.

 

[SnowMiku]

I think it's unrealistic to want an R8 II with 2 card slots, I just don't see it happening.

 

[DocInfoSci]

I'd just like to see it priced to fly off the shelves. These would make epic gifts for some of my family and friends, for what they tend to shoot. A nice kit lens like a 28mm pancake in matching style would go well to capture that mid-century photojournalism vibe.

 

[Uneternal]

in any case, canon isn’t producing the r6 ii anymore.

I very much doubt that. Canon officially only lists the EOS R and R6 as discontinued. Even the RP is still in stock in their shop. The R6II still sells pretty well, it's always gone in 1-2 days on Canon's refurb sales.

https://en.canon-cna.com/archive/cameras/

 

[Brown]

I think it's unrealistic to want an R8 II with 2 card slots, I just don't see it happening.

Can't an OEM just record images in RAID 1 using an SD card and eMMC?

 

[Old Man FL/FD]

On the topic of retro-looking lenses, the 50/1.8 is about as retro an optics design as it gets. What's more retro than the good old 50/1.8 Gaussian optics design?

Although I wouldn't feel bad if it had an actual working aperture ring and distance scale with depth-of-field guide marks on it like lenses of that era. Something like the FD 50 f/2, FD 85/1.8, or FD 28 f/2. Something that fit the time frame in both looks and function. Of course, it would still be an AF lens, but with manual focus and all that it entails. Same with the aperture.

 

[mb66energy]

I would like to see an f-stop ring around the mount maybe with a curved OLED display showing the f-stop-numbers of the mounted lens!
But more important: An image stabilized f/1.4 50mm, the size of the FD S.S.C. version and some polished quality at f/1.4 using some special dispersion / aspheric lens element(s) but keeping the character of this classic thing. Maybe omit the IS.

 

[mb66energy]

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Distance scale etc are the reason I like EF lenses! Keeps the viewfinder a little bit cleaner!

 

[blackcoffee17]

Do we know if the R8 mkII will only be available in a retro-design, or will it come with the "regular" design aswell?

As I see it - Canon will have minimal "upgrade-space" without making the price jump up to R6 mkII.
But it would'nt make sense that the only difference between the R8 and the R8 mkII is the retro design.

The only things that make me consider the R6 mkII over the original R8 are:
- Battery-life
- Recording time in 4k30/60 without overheating
- Mechanical shutter (for use with studioblitz)
. IBIS

As I said - I know most of it cannot be implemented before the price equals the R6 mkII, but I hope at least the first two can be implemented with a slightlig bigger camerabody for more batteryspace and coolingvents.. Maybe change the cardslot to CFexpress Type B instead of making a 2-slot solution. Fullsize HDMI-output.

I don't see Canon replacing the LP-E17 battery anytime soon.

 

[BenjaminB]

What do you want to see ?
- A camera for photography only !
- Button and switches manual controls and ergonomics
- EVF or OVF but no back screen !
- Black and white mode switch just like on the nikon ZF
- Limited internal storage on purpose
Why not 1990's "vintage" style instead of 1970's look ?

 

[scyrene]

Two observations on the original post: wouldn't a fixed screen be more appropriate for a retro design? (I guess no screen at all would be even more apt!). And why would video features require "a bunch of time and resources"? Surely all that development has been done already, with existing bodies.

 

[Any Name]

For the retro-look & feel:
An EOS 500 N / 300 styled body just a tad too small for prolonged use with US- or WE-sized hands.
And, if Canon really wants to go hardcore, even a with separate available BP/VG.

IBIS would be appreciated, but no deal breaker if not present.
30+ megapixels
10 fps or better
Flip/rotate/tilt-screen, no specific preference. Either way, you'll miss the missing option anyway.

And a price somewhere between 1500-2000 Euros, as that seems to be the current WAF limit I am running into for purchases of toys

 

[Fanitullen]

I hope they keep everything on the outside of the R8 II as it is now, except I would want a tilt screen instead of the flip out. And keep the low weight (or make it even lighter). I just love the D-pad. It's one of the best features on this camera, IMO.
BTW. I hate joysticks.

Keep the battery, one card-slot and no ibis. Just update the sensor and processor and add the new pre-capture.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Distance scale etc are the reason I like EF lenses! Keeps the viewfinder a little bit cleaner.

To each their own. To me, It’s not very helpful if I have to take my eye away from the viewfinder and look over the top of the camera to see that information. I’d much rather have it right in front of my eye when I want it.

 

[ScreensMatter]

I just played with the Canon R1 for the first time. What a viewfinder, it's like using an a good OVF in daylight. Manual focus was such a breeze. Could we have one of those on the retro camera. With some more MF Voigtländer optics