What Will The EOS 5D Mark IV Bring to the Table?

[jarrodeu]

Noooooo!!! 28mp!! If people want high mp those bodies are already out there. I have 30TB of drives for work already and don't need bigger files. Frick Canon keep it down in low 20mp's. I hate all this magapixel war stuff again.

A 33% increase in resolution for a camera that was launched over 7 years ago (5DMKII). Why is this such a shock?

Jarrod

 

[tcmatthews]

I would like to see

• 32mp dual pixel autofocus sensor and keep current ISO capabilities
• C-fast/SD UHS-II
• Fully articulated Screen
• 4k recording
• Upgraded autofocus system
• lighter due to new build materials
• Built in GPS
• Built in Wifi
• 6-8 fps

Personally I would like a parallel release of a smaller 5D C compact smaller version of the 5D camera. I much prefer the size of the 6D to the 5D/7D cameras. I think that I am not the only one who would prefer a more compact full featured Canon Camera. If it does not have 32mp and an articulating screen I will loose all interest and wait for the 6d II. I thought that CF should have been dropped when the 5D III was announced. It is functionally obsolete and past time it is abandoned.

 

[Don Haines]

I thought that CF should have been dropped when the 5D III was announced. It is functionally obsolete and past time it is abandoned.

That's guaranteed to be a controversial statement..... but I think you are right.

If you want speed, go for Cfast.... if you want convenience and compatibility (at a darn fast speed) go SD card with UHS-2 interface. CF kind of falls in the middle.

 

[ranplett]

I'll play along, since I'm really jonesing for an upgrade to my 5D mkII. Just imagine how sweet that's gonna be.

+ between 24 and 30mp is sufficient. 24mp seems a little low in a world of 36, 41, and 51mp DSLRs these days.

+ 9 fps would be AWESOME for HDR shooters to help lessen ghosting. If the 5Ds is capable of 5 fps at 51mp, shouldn't a ~28mp cam be able to capture 9 fps?

+ I'll take as much DR as I can get, thanks.

+ 4K. It's 2016. I'd love a high res. video feature that I never use. But it will be so nice to have!

+ a few nice inclusions would be wifi (could have used that about 100x), really capable face detection / eye focus, and a lighter body because holding a camera for 12 hours can weigh you down.

+ By far my MOST sought after upgrade would be a 135mm f2 IS L.

 

[tpatana]

If 1DX2 is not good enough, I'll probably wait for this announcement and then decide between 5D4 and 5DsR.

No
Need too quote or troll or me I know what I'm talking bout

Not sure completely what you say there, but I currently have 1DX, and recently sold my 5D3. So if 1DX2 is good enough compared to 1DX, I'll get one. If not, I'll get 5D4 or 5DsR instead for studio oriented shoots, and keep the 1DX for sports.

 

[Sayan]

8fps for sure not more than tht
remember 1dx have 12fps and 5dmk3 just half of tht 6fps .. so 7fps or may be 8fps bt no 9fps ;D

 

[Ryananthony]

-1 Stop higher iso usage and banding improvement
-Spot metering linked to af
-8 FPS
-Either wifi,nfc, or bluetooth
-Don't limit write times to SD and also UHS-II compatible or two CF
-Adjust Kelvins without going to q menu
-Exposure comp in manual with auto iso
-Lit AF points

Oh wait, was this not a wishlist?

I think we will see.

-1 stop higher iso usage and banding improvement 1/2 stop higher iso usage.
-Spot metering linked to af
-8 Frames 6-7 FPS
-Either wifi,nfc, or bluetooth
-Don't limit write times to SD and also UHS-II compatible or two CF 1 CF 1 SD(not UHS-II)
-Adjust kelvins without going to q menu
-Exposure comp in manual with auto iso
-Lit AF points
-24MP
-4K very similar or the same as 1DXII

 

[Diko]

I'll play along, since I'm really jonesing for an upgrade to my 5D mkII. Just imagine how sweet that's gonna be.
+ between 24 and 30mp is sufficient. 24mp seems a little low in a world of 36, 41, and 51mp DSLRs these days.
+ 9 fps would be AWESOME for HDR shooters to help lessen ghosting. If the 5Ds is capable of 5 fps at 51mp, shouldn't a ~28mp cam be able to capture 9 fps?...

+1 seems quite logical to me.

... + a few nice inclusions would be wifi (could have used that about 100x), really capable face detection / eye focus, and a lighter body because holding a camera for 12 hours can weigh you down.

+1 -> AC wifi means with 1Dx2 about 1 RAW/s wich is awesome for tethering! But I highly doubt. You see: they launched a proprietary wi-fi accessory that costs over $500. :-(

 

[Sporgon]

On chip ADC by the looks of it.......

Goodbye trolls, hello shadows )

 

[drjlo]

On chip ADC by the looks of it.......

On-chip ADC with noise and DR performance in line with 1Dx II sample photos would be most welcomed !

 

[bmwzimmer]

I'd like to see a smaller body similar to the current 6D. There's plenty of real estate there to maintain all the current buttons and wouldn't mind removing one or two now that more than likely we'll have a touch screen.

 

[JMZawodny]

I'm on the fence. I've been shooting the 5D2 and 7D2. The rumored specs of the 1Dx2 are likely sufficient to get me to upgrade, however, I plan to wait until I have definitive info on the 5D4 as well as real user reviews of the 1Dx2. So, what will the 5D4 have to offer to garner my interest? When I need the fps, I have the 7D2, so 7fps out of the 5D4 will do. I regularly shoot ISO 6400 on the 5D2, but I'd really like to shoot at ISO 12800 with the same level of noise. That seems like a reasonable request. I do expect both the 1Dx2 and 5D4 to offer a significant improvement in DR by incorporating on-chip ADC. I like my AF points to light up red, that is why I was never really interested in the 5D3. I have little interest in 4k video unless it comes with a high quality codec, so the 5D4 can live down to my expectations and I won't care too much. The spec I care most about is AF performance. If the 1Dx2 is the only camera that offers a respectable spread of AF points that work at f/8, that alone will make the decision for me. Given how the AF of the 1 series cameras are always a step above the other Canon offerings, I do not expect this to change and I'll most probably end up with the 1Dx2. I am prepared to be surprised, however.

Now that the 1Dx2 specs are out and some initial preview reports are trickling in, I'll refine my original 5D4 predictions.

- 28mp sensor
- High ISO performance 0.5 to 1 full stop less than 1Dx2 (still pretty fantastic though)
- A single Digic 6+
- Resulting in 7fps max
- Proper support for UDMA7 and fast XQD - NO CFast
- No 4k video - better FullHD codec up to 60fps with DPAF
- AF will be 1Dx2-like except only a small cluster of points will support AF at f/8.
- Flippy touch screen LCD
- LP-E6N Battery

So in short, a significant upgrade.

 

[Efka76]

My predictions are the following:

1) 24-28 MP (I would be really surprised if I see 36 MP).
2) 1-2 fps more than current 5DIII. In reality I think it will be 1 fps more. Canon definitely does not want to go to 7DII fps area
3) Built in GPS (this is simple feature which is not hard to include)
4) 4k (however, with some restrictions). If there is 4k, then CFast will be included as well.
5) Better AF - 65 focus points as in 7DII. What it would be really good to have wider spread of these points as in 1Dx
6) Better noise reduction, native iso still 25,600 (I do not think that Canon will match 1DxII specs in 5D4)
7) Anti-flickering, DPAF
8) Better weather sealing which will be similar to 7DII.

5DIV is the main working horse of many photographers. Also, it is a more affordable camera comparing to 1dXII. So, Canon wants to keep its current customers and wants to force them to change 5DII and 5DIII into 5DIV. There is a question what features are very important to wedding photographers, which would force upgrade. In my opinion, it is cleaner images in higher ISO and higher DR. Anti-flickering might be useful feature as well.

Also, I notice a trend that some wedding photographers are switching to mirrorless cameras (e.g. Sony). This trend is not very threatening, however, after 3-5 years when mirrorless will have siginificant improvements (I hope) in AF, OVF areas, quite many photographers might consider mirrorless rather than DSLR. Currently, I really expect very good financial year for Canon after launch of new 5DIV (especially if pricing is reasonable).

 

[gary samples]

I'm on the fence. I've been shooting the 5D2 and 7D2. The rumored specs of the 1Dx2 are likely sufficient to get me to upgrade, however, I plan to wait until I have definitive info on the 5D4 as well as real user reviews of the 1Dx2. So, what will the 5D4 have to offer to garner my interest? When I need the fps, I have the 7D2, so 7fps out of the 5D4 will do. I regularly shoot ISO 6400 on the 5D2, but I'd really like to shoot at ISO 12800 with the same level of noise. That seems like a reasonable request. I do expect both the 1Dx2 and 5D4 to offer a significant improvement in DR by incorporating on-chip ADC. I like my AF points to light up red, that is why I was never really interested in the 5D3. I have little interest in 4k video unless it comes with a high quality codec, so the 5D4 can live down to my expectations and I won't care too much. The spec I care most about is AF performance. If the 1Dx2 is the only camera that offers a respectable spread of AF points that work at f/8, that alone will make the decision for me. Given how the AF of the 1 series cameras are always a step above the other Canon offerings, I do not expect this to change and I'll most probably end up with the 1Dx2. I am prepared to be surprised, however.

Now that the 1Dx2 specs are out and some initial preview reports are trickling in, I'll refine my original 5D4 predictions.

- 28mp sensor
- High ISO performance 0.5 to 1 full stop less than 1Dx2 (still pretty fantastic though)
- A single Digic 6+
- Resulting in 7fps max
- Proper support for UDMA7 and fast XQD - NO CFast
- No 4k video - better FullHD codec up to 60fps with DPAF
- AF will be 1Dx2-like except only a small cluster of points will support AF at f/8.
- Flippy touch screen LCD
- LP-E6N Battery

So in short, a significant upgrade.

+1

 

[kaihp]

Now that the 1Dx2 specs are out and some initial preview reports are trickling in, I'll refine my original 5D4 predictions.

- 28mp sensor
- High ISO performance 0.5 to 1 full stop less than 1Dx2 (still pretty fantastic though)
- A single Digic 6+
- Resulting in 7fps max
- Proper support for UDMA7 and fast XQD - NO CFast
- No 4k video - better FullHD codec up to 60fps with DPAF
- AF will be 1Dx2-like except only a small cluster of points will support AF at f/8.
- Flippy touch screen LCD
- LP-E6N Battery

So in short, a significant upgrade.

+1

-2 on the QXD card. I don't think it would make sense for Canon to switch to two different, incompatible and competing card types when moving (gradually) away from CF cards. So I'd say either SDXC-UHS & CF slots or SDXC-UHS & CFast slot. I doubt the latter.

- 8fps speed
- Sensor with integrated ADC, so the low shadow noise like in the 1Dx2. Should improve the high-ISO as well. I would prefer 24Mpix over 28Mpix, but that's just my preference.

 

[Zv]

I'm really glad to see the 1DXII got touchscreen and DPAF. Hopefully this means now that the flagship model has it the 5D MKIV will get it. And if the 5 gets it the 6D MKII almost certainly will. I wonder if they'll add wifi though. That one seems to be harder to predict. I want to say yes it will based on nothing more than a coin toss! Resolution wise it makes sense to keep it lower than 30 but more than 22 (obviously) but since megapixels aren't what this camera is all about and the 5Ds takes care of that need, I predict a modest increase to around 24MP.

 

[Sporgon]

I'd like to see a smaller body similar to the current 6D. There's plenty of real estate there to maintain all the current buttons and wouldn't mind removing one or two now that more than likely we'll have a touch screen.

s

I know where you're coming from, but not on a camera designed to be used in anger. Once you're under pressure and you've got sweaty hands the larger size is an advantage ! Same with larger lenses. The 6D is great for smaller lenses but I find its unbalanced when you start attaching something like the 70-200 or 100-400 etc. personal preference of course.

 

[Memdroid]

I'd like to see a smaller body similar to the current 6D. There's plenty of real estate there to maintain all the current buttons and wouldn't mind removing one or two now that more than likely we'll have a touch screen.

s

I know where you're coming from, but not on a camera designed to be used in anger. Once you're under pressure and you've got sweaty hands the larger size is an advantage ! Same with larger lenses. The 6D is great for smaller lenses but I find its unbalanced when you start attaching something like the 70-200 or 100-400 etc. personal preference of course.

+1
With that being said I honestly believe the the 6D range is where swivel screen belongs, and not the on the 5D series.

If the previous/current generation of 1D and 5D bodies are an indication. The next 5D is probably going to be toned down 1D with slightly more resolution. Hopefully with an integrated flash RT controller.

 

[George D.]

28Mp just fine. Those who think it's too much please switch to 22Mp from the menu.
Touch-screen, yes please (non-articulated)
9fps digic6+, maybe.
Plus some goodies from the 1DX2 (same AF?)
4K, who cares (brides can't tell the difference)

The real issue here is sensor IQ. How much better can you get (fm.Mk3)? What type? Stay tuned.

 

[zim]

Now that the 1Dx2 specs are out and some initial preview reports are trickling in, I'll refine my original 5D4 predictions.

- 28mp sensor
- High ISO performance 0.5 to 1 full stop less than 1Dx2 (still pretty fantastic though)
- A single Digic 6+
- Resulting in 7fps max
- Proper support for UDMA7 and fast XQD - NO CFast
- No 4k video - better FullHD codec up to 60fps with DPAF
- AF will be 1Dx2-like except only a small cluster of points will support AF at f/8.
- Flippy touch screen LCD
- LP-E6N Battery

So in short, a significant upgrade.

Agree completely and really hope that list is correct, I'd be a very happy camper