What would make $3500 for 5DmIII justifiable for you?
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I really did want to get the 5D3, had even already sold off my 5D, and planned on selling the 7D to pair the new 5 with the 5D2. But couldn't go the price. Just wasn't prepared for hike after it'd been rumored at 2700-3000. For me it was about keeping up the IQ, with the AF system upgrade. Not that I think it's not worth it, just couldn't swing it. So I looked around and found a nice 1Ds MkII to give me the AF capabilities and keep the IQ. We'll see what the 5 is doing next year. 
Funny thing though, if a few thousand people would have simply sat on their opinions, the folks at Canon wouldn't have been so sure themselves and we'd have seen it at the competitors mark. So I believe all the hooplah here and elsewhere set the bar. The squeaky wheel and all that.
Funny thing though, if a few thousand people would have simply sat on their opinions, the folks at Canon wouldn't have been so sure themselves and we'd have seen it at the competitors mark. So I believe all the hooplah here and elsewhere set the bar. The squeaky wheel and all that.
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If people unanimously hailed this as an amazing camera and a huge step up from the 5DII.
Instead I see it as an improvement in all the expected ways, and I actually see some mixed reviews out there.
I have actually seen quite a bit of bad press about this camera from people looking at the sample photos(black outlines, similar DR to 5DII, soft images, poor HDR rendering.) I'm not sure if these are facts or just poor samples/firmware but my mind has not been blown by this camera yet.
I see no evidence that this camera is significantly better than the Nikon offering.
At this point, I'd rather just have an exact 5DII with the 7D AF and have it be 2500 dollars for preorder(I cant see why this isn't doable 3.5 years later.)
Instead I see it as an improvement in all the expected ways, and I actually see some mixed reviews out there.
I have actually seen quite a bit of bad press about this camera from people looking at the sample photos(black outlines, similar DR to 5DII, soft images, poor HDR rendering.) I'm not sure if these are facts or just poor samples/firmware but my mind has not been blown by this camera yet.
I see no evidence that this camera is significantly better than the Nikon offering.
At this point, I'd rather just have an exact 5DII with the 7D AF and have it be 2500 dollars for preorder(I cant see why this isn't doable 3.5 years later.)
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The way I see this, most people are surprised by the fact that Nikon provided a counterpart with higher megapickles and a cheaper msrp than canon did.
Had Nikon not released the D800, I suppose there will be less unhappy talk.
5D2 was and still is a great camera. Canon decided to keep both is a wise decision. It is still better than reusing old technology and label it as a new camera, like the 1000D. If we see the 5D2 as a affordable entry DSLR everything would make a lot more sense.
Had Nikon not released the D800, I suppose there will be less unhappy talk.
5D2 was and still is a great camera. Canon decided to keep both is a wise decision. It is still better than reusing old technology and label it as a new camera, like the 1000D. If we see the 5D2 as a affordable entry DSLR everything would make a lot more sense.
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The values is set both in absolute terms of what it offers to me and in relative to what competition offers in the price range.
5D3 only offers additional 1 FPS over the D800. Everyhing else the D800 beats the 5D3 hands down (as far as I currently know). Even if the 5D3 had offered same low ISO DR and high ISO noise as D800, but still 22MP, the only 1 additional FPS had not justified the price.
With full 1DX AF and meetering, 22MP, but same DR and high ISO noise as D800, and the 6 FPS the reasonable price would have been same as for D800.
To justify this price they need full 1DX AF and meetering and 46MP at 5FPS (same pixels as in their crops but improved, especially in DR), 38MP at 5.5FPS, 32MP at 6FPS, 27MP at 6.5 FPS, 23MP at 7FPS, 20MP at 7.5 FPS, 18MP at 8FPS.
This would be the fully fusion of 5D2 and 7D.
5D3 only offers additional 1 FPS over the D800. Everyhing else the D800 beats the 5D3 hands down (as far as I currently know). Even if the 5D3 had offered same low ISO DR and high ISO noise as D800, but still 22MP, the only 1 additional FPS had not justified the price.
With full 1DX AF and meetering, 22MP, but same DR and high ISO noise as D800, and the 6 FPS the reasonable price would have been same as for D800.
To justify this price they need full 1DX AF and meetering and 46MP at 5FPS (same pixels as in their crops but improved, especially in DR), 38MP at 5.5FPS, 32MP at 6FPS, 27MP at 6.5 FPS, 23MP at 7FPS, 20MP at 7.5 FPS, 18MP at 8FPS.
This would be the fully fusion of 5D2 and 7D.
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dilbert said:
Dilbert says it all for me (in RAW photos) Everything else is ‘nice to have’ (for me) that’s why I’m waiting on proper analysis before I decide. (the OP doesn’t have that as one of the options)
PS thanks for the smite WTF!!!
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@ dilbert & Zim
I've thought about adding an option concerning sensor features (such as snr, color & DR) but i decided against it cause there would be people saying: "well we dont know nothing about the sensor and it might as well be etc" and they would have a point, although the fact that Canon hasnt been touting about it in their marketing is kinda disheartening.
I've thought about adding an option concerning sensor features (such as snr, color & DR) but i decided against it cause there would be people saying: "well we dont know nothing about the sensor and it might as well be etc" and they would have a point, although the fact that Canon hasnt been touting about it in their marketing is kinda disheartening.
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I think this poll is missing the following option: "nothing, i think the price is not justified (as i'm only a hobbyist)".
All of the updates on the 5DIII are very welcome. As a hobbyist, though, I cannot justify $3500.
I was all set to make the switch to FF and was eagerly waiting for the 5DIII to do it - expecting the same intro price as the 5DII.
Alas, my switch to FF is on hold for now
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All of the updates on the 5DIII are very welcome. As a hobbyist, though, I cannot justify $3500.
I was all set to make the switch to FF and was eagerly waiting for the 5DIII to do it - expecting the same intro price as the 5DII.
Alas, my switch to FF is on hold for now
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x-vision said:I think this poll is missing the following option: "nothing, i think the price is not justified (as i'm only a hobbyist)".
All of the updates on the 5DIII are very welcome. As a hobbyist, though, I cannot justify $3500.
I was all set to make the switch to FF and was eagerly waiting for the 5DIII to do it - expecting the same intro price as the 5DII.
Alas, my switch to FF is on hold for now
Well, there's never been a better time than now to purchase the MK2
- You can save some cash, and know you are getting a very favorable body. I was in the same boat as your, but I feel perfectly fine with the $3500 price tag.
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