Where is the Canon EOS 6D Mark II?

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This is a question we receive multiple times every single day, so I’d figure we’d give an update, even though nothing has really changed.</p>
<p>We expect to see the EOS 6D Mark II announced in the late spring/early summer of this year, with availability in the summer. For the moment, pricing has not yet been set, currency fluctuations may prevent knowing that until much closer to the announcement.</p>
<p>As far as specifications go, very little is known for sure. However, we think by looking at the recent EOS 77D announcement, we can make some good predictions as to what we’re likely to see from Canon’s entry level full frame camera.</p>
<p><strong>Canon EOS 6D Mark II Predicted Specifications</strong></p>
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<li>24-28mp full frame CMOS</li>
<li>45 AF points (all cross-type)</li>
<li>Dual Pixel AF</li>
<li>DIGIC 7</li>
<li>Built-in Wi-Fi®, NFC and Bluetooth® technology</li>
<li>Built-in GPS</li>
<li>Vari-Angle touchscreen LCD</li>
<li>6 FPS Shooting</li>
<li>HDR Movie & Time Lapse Movie</li>
<li>Some form of 4K video</li>
<li>Movie electronic image stabilization</li>
<li>Dual SD card slots</li>
<li>100% coverage optical viewfinder with some new features</li>
</ul>
<p>As we all know, Canon very rarely goes way outside of the with new products, as their cameras aren’t just about one specific feature. It’s generally how all of the features come together to make a great shooting experience for the photographer.</p>
<p>We would love to see this camera come in at under the $2000 USD mark.</p>
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Where is the Canon EOS 6D Mark II?

Though the original 6D had a great sensor, on so many other fronts it was a clear step down from the 5D3. The 6D2 spec list you are showing above, however, punches its weight against the 5D4 much better in comparison.

I kid of course, but the delay might be Canon p---ing its pants that such a spec list @ $2000 will have many stills-only shooters wondering why to pay $1500 more for a 5D4. I think the 6D2 needs to be more deliberately nerfed than what your rumored spec list indicates, or it simply needs a higher asking price. Otherwise, 5D4 sales might suffer.

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ahsanford said:
Where is the Canon EOS 6D Mark II?

Though the original 6D had a great sensor, on so many other fronts it was a clear step down from the 5D3. The 6D2 spec list you are showing above, however, punches its weight against the 5D4 much better in comparison.

I kid of course, but the delay might be Canon p---ing its pants that such a spec list @ $2000 will have many stills-only shooters wondering why to pay $1500 more for a 5D4. I think the 6D2 needs to be more deliberately nerfed than what your rumored spec list indicates, or it simply needs a higher asking price. Otherwise, 5D4 sales might suffer.

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I have had one suggestion that Canon is working on a substantial 5D4 firmware update.... I can't confirm it with any certainty though.

Build quality alone will justify the price of the 5D4, and by the time the 6D2 launches, we should see some kind of a price drop on its big brother.
 
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i really don't think they will put a 45 AF points (all cross-type) sistem . The rest of the specs are plausible . I will buy it with the new Tamron 70-200 vc G2 (hope they release a new 27-70 vc G2 too)

PS: hope the 6d II will not be crippled like the old 6d compared to the 5d series(especialy af, dual cards etc) and also will be under 2k $ . Also i think the 5d IV should be under 3k $ , now is to expensive (more expensive than D810 who has better IQ for example) and still lacks in functions . For example that video codec is a joke , 8 min of filming on a 32gb card ? . No C log ? Also ancient sd and cf cards ? And still using AA filter that reduce IQ and rezolution by 10-15 % ? Is 2017 ! Come on canon , put some effort in it, at least release a new firmware with a better video codec , c log and focus peaking . A lot of video guys will love it
 
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ahsanford said:
Where is the Canon EOS 6D Mark II?

Though the original 6D had a great sensor, on so many other fronts it was a clear step down from the 5D3. The 6D2 spec list you are showing above, however, punches its weight against the 5D4 much better in comparison.

I kid of course, but the delay might be Canon p---ing its pants that such a spec list @ $2000 will have many stills-only shooters wondering why to pay $1500 more for a 5D4. I think the 6D2 needs to be more deliberately nerfed than what your rumored spec list indicates, or it simply needs a higher asking price. Otherwise, 5D4 sales might suffer.

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Sadly, I must admit that I share that cynical skepticism, based on bitter experience in nearly all of Life’s arenas. The 6D was the FF body I was able to justify purchasing to my ever-present financial conscience as a fair compromise between expense and abilities (both the camera body’s and my own), after otherwise behaving for well over a year’s time. Already owning a 50D and 7D at the time, the 6D’s AF shortcomings were immediately apparent; however, the larger, cleaner images and expanded ISO and DR capabilities more, IMHO, than made up for the necessity of extra effort in framing and focusing my shots.
I could better imagine, maybe, 24 AF points, with perhaps half of those being cross-type, some ISO expansion, similarly-conservative expansion of MP, while staying at the same price point.
The posted wondrous spec list would almost-certainly demand some price rise, probably in the 20% range.
Of course, not being an expert by an stretch of even the faintest imagination, I am hopeful that the 6D II will debut at least very closely to the specs as speculated….
 
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Canon Rumors said:
I have had one suggestion that Canon is working on a substantial 5D4 firmware update.... I can't confirm it with any certainty though.

Build quality alone will justify the price of the 5D4, and by the time the 6D2 launches, we should see some kind of a price drop on its big brother.

1) Firmware = great to hear if so. But unless the firmware drops the mic on something truly game-changing (smaller crop in 4K, more fps, multi-shot sensor-shift composites (on a non-IBIS body? ???), on-board flash wireless flash control, etc.), it's hard to see that changing the purchasing decision very much, IMHO.

2) According to CPW, the 5D3 did drop a few hundred dollars in 2013 after the 6D2 was rolled out and then Canon yanked it back up to its initial asking price of $3499 in 2014. But you very well may be right -- the market will be different this time around with the 6D2 being a far more compelling animal than its predecessor, and and the 5D4 price may need to walk down sooner rather than later as a result.

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mdmphoto said:
I could better imagine, maybe, 24 AF points, with perhaps half of those being cross-type, some ISO expansion, similarly-conservative expansion of MP, while staying at the same price point.
The posted wondrous spec list would almost-certainly demand some price rise, probably in the 20% range.

That's where my head was. The 6D2 had to nerf something more than just a little compared to the 5D4 (other than solid build quality) or $2k would appear a bargain.

Consider the prior feature match up:

5D3: 22 MP / 6 fps / 61 AF points / dual cards / stellar build quality / fixed LCD --> $3499 initial asking
6D1: 20 MP / 4.5 fps / 11 AF points / single card / good build quality / fixed LCD --> $2099 initial asking


This 'pay more and get more' value proposition worked for me, and it worked for the market. The 5D3 maintained its price very well while the 6D price did not. (Yes, there's a ton more to each rig's value proposition, and I don't want to drive past the 6D1's interchangeable screens and -3 EV AF center point, both are which are better than the 5D3.)

But based on this latest spec list, it would look like this to prospective shoppers:

5D4: 30 MP / 7 fps / 61 AF points / dual cards / many f/8 points for T/C use / stellar build quality / fixed LCD --> $3499 initial asking (might come down some)
6D2: 24-28 MP / 6 fps / 45 AF points / dual cards / many f/8 points for T/C use (presumed) / good build quality / tilty-flippy LCD --> $2k?

I just feel that for the stills-only camp, there is very little the 5D4 can do that the 6D2 could not. The 5D4's feature advantage over the 6D2 doesn't seem like a $1500 bump in 'better' to me like it did with the last-gen.

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No joystick, fewer buttons, lower build quality, a few other ergonomic features. I am taking those for granted at this point. But I have to agree, that spec list seems a little too cozy to the 5DIV.

I hope the firmware update is great, but what would it be? Better 4K video? That wouldn't affect stills shooters. Give it better 4K video and 8-9 fps....that would be something.

Here's to hoping that the list is correct, the 6DII is amazing, and Canon tries to sell it for $2,200 while dropping the 5DIV to $3,000 while giving it even more features via a firmware upgrade.

I like to dream.
 
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I also doubt that the 6DII will get 45 AF points, and it will probably have one SD slot IMO. The 6D wasn't meant to be pro and I think it will continue to be crippled in order to protect 5DIV sales. The AF system and memory card slots will continue to be its achilles heel.
 
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ahsanford said:
Where is the Canon EOS 6D Mark II?

Though the original 6D had a great sensor, on so many other fronts it was a clear step down from the 5D3. The 6D2 spec list you are showing above, however, punches its weight against the 5D4 much better in comparison.

I kid of course, but the delay might be Canon p---ing its pants that such a spec list @ $2000 will have many stills-only shooters wondering why to pay $1500 more for a 5D4. I think the 6D2 needs to be more deliberately nerfed than what your rumored spec list indicates, or it simply needs a higher asking price. Otherwise, 5D4 sales might suffer.

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It has to be a compelling alternative to a 5D3 too though. Its sandwiched between two great options.
 
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Otara said:
It has to be a compelling alternative to a 5D3 too though. Its sandwiched between two great options.

Sure, until the 5D3 is discontinued, which I'd imagine will officially occur shortly after the 6D2 announcement/launch timeframe. If past is prologue...

6D announcement: 9 / 17 / 2012
6D first shipments: 11 / 30 / 2012 (that about right? Google seemed iffy on this)
5D2 discontinued: 12 / 24 / 2012

...then no, I don't see the 5D3 sticking around. I think it will fall off the map very quickly after the 6D2 rollout, likely to be quickly devoured in 3rd party / eBay reseller marketplaces.

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As did the 5D2. Because the marketplace is awash with so many 5d3's secondhand as well, they're serious competition. The difference between the 5D3 was large enough that they simply had to add on a few bells and whistles to a 5D2 and all was well.

They cant do that so easily now. And its other natural competition is the 6D. There are too many good quality low price alternatives to compare against.
 
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I nearly choked on the reading the speculative specs, there is no way in hell that Canon would release such a good camera, everything they released is crippled to the point of just about acceptable. They don't care what the competition releases they don't want to shoot themselves in the foot against the 5D4, nobody is buying that camera for 4K and very unlikely for HD. They are buying it as a stills camera so why put a cheaper alternative unless they foresee a reduction in demand for 5D4s
 
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MintChocs said:
I nearly choked on the reading the speculative specs, there is no way in hell that Canon would release such a good camera, everything they released is crippled to the point of just about acceptable. They don't care what the competition releases they don't want to shoot themselves in the foot against the 5D4, nobody is buying that camera for 4K and very unlikely for HD. They are buying it as a stills camera so why put a cheaper alternative unless they foresee a reduction in demand for 5D4s

So do they...

(a) ...considerably nerf the specs compared to what we've seen rumored so far,

(b) ...jack up the price to something that might make more sense given it's 'functional proximity' to a 5D4, say $2299-2499, or

(c) ...put out a little spec sheet monster for $1999 and endanger the 5D4 price?

The rumored specs seem to have 'settled' at this point, so one might guess that might very well be the product we see. That puts the more likely outcome at either (b) or (c), right?

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it may be a rule or not, but the 6d got the specs of the old 5dii with small improvements and much lesser build quality.

it this is a rule, then maybe the speclist is reasonable, because the pressure from market is increased, when even Rebel cameras get former pro AF Systems now and f8 points. The market is shrinking, so they have to deliver a great shooting expierience, if a consumer should pay 2k$

On the other hand, the 5diii has a feature set, which a "non enthusiast" who is not willing to read the instruction manual will not use at all. This means, in my opinion a 6dii could be less technical and more "intuitive" and more "automatic" than a 5diii. it should maybe work like a super high end phone camera, with which a typical phone photographer can take better pics with than with the phone. This is not a easy task for the development department.

so, maybe it could have a pop up flash, as the nikons
 
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Interesting.

I'm also a bit skeptical about the number of autofocus points. Although, that does sound like essentially the same autofocus specifications as the 80D.

As far as a major firmware upgrade for the 5D IV goes, what could they add to the 5D IV and how then would that impact the 1D XII? Seems like a slippery slope to me.
 
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unfocused said:
As far as a major firmware upgrade for the 5D IV goes, what could they add to the 5D IV and how then would that impact the 1D XII? Seems like a slippery slope to me.

Disagree... unless it's an exclusive 5D4 feature, and a game changer at that. Bumping the 5D4 to (say) 8-9 fps isn't going to tank 1DX2 sales.

Right now the 1DX2 in all things (other than resolution and smaller size for those who don't want an integral grip) lords over the rest of the offerings pretty comprehensively. The gulf between the 1DX2 and 5D4 is correct for the price they want for it. The same is not so for a $2k 6D2 (at those rumored specs) to a $3499 5D4, i.e. IMHO the 6D2 is far closer to the 5D4 than the 5D4 is to the 1DX2, so the 5D4 has room to improve or differentiate itself without stealing the 1DX2's thunder.

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ahsanford said:
Where is the Canon EOS 6D Mark II?

Though the original 6D had a great sensor, on so many other fronts it was a clear step down from the 5D3. The 6D2 spec list you are showing above, however, punches its weight against the 5D4 much better in comparison.

I kid of course, but the delay might be Canon p---ing its pants that such a spec list @ $2000 will have many stills-only shooters wondering why to pay $1500 more for a 5D4. I think the 6D2 needs to be more deliberately nerfed than what your rumored spec list indicates, or it simply needs a higher asking price. Otherwise, 5D4 sales might suffer.

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Well, if it has a tilt-flip screen, then you have your big-money difference (as I learned from these very forums: Canon Pro absolutely hate those, because they could break while they play baseball with their gear). And then there is that Pixel-shift. That should really be enough.
 
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