Where is the EOS 5D Mark IV? [CR2]

[dolina]

If the announcement is August expect shipment of bodies by November.

 

[JonAustin]

I believe Canon has stated something about a full magnesium alloy body making WiFi difficult. Which is why the top of the 6D is plastic. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

I use an EOS M and the touch screen is really really nice quality. Like more responsive/accurate than an iPhone. I'm not saying that I would prefer a touch screen to physical controls by any means, but if it was literally just a freebie (that could be turned off) and physical control took zero hit, I see no disadvantage to it

Swiping and zooming through photos is quite pleasing with the touch screen on the EOS M. And quickly tapping to position the focus box is fantastic. Though that only helps in live view.

For video (especially if there is DPAF), a touch screen might have major value. Might be more 6D territory than 5D though.

You may be correct about Canon's statement, re: full mag alloy body and difficult WiFi implementation; I haven't seen that. Antenna placement is the key, and it may require one or more undesirable design compromises.

I don't shoot video, so I'm not part of the market for any touchscreen-related benefits to this application. And I don't use my phone for photography or image review, so the ability to swipe & zoom images on a DSLR's rear LCD isn't a feature I long for. But I can see the attraction / value to some.

 

[mclaren777]

Announced in August? Bummer!

That means I wouldn't get to use it for the 2015 wedding season.

 

[that1guyy]

So they're copying Sony's A7 line. canon is doomed.

 

[jebrady03]

So they're copying Sony's A7 line. canon is doomed.

SO many people joke around and poke fun at people who say xyz company is "doomed" if they do or don't do _____. I always thought they were being dramatic. Apparently not. You ACTUALLY used the word doomed! LMFAO!

 

[V8Beast]

They are saying all the words I want to hear. That could be a worthy successor to the 5DIII. Now, they just have to make it so.

24-28 MP
Cleaner low ISO noise
Whatever benefit they can get out of higher ISO
8 fps
etc....

Evolutionary advancements in specs like these would seem likely, in which case I'd pass on the 5D4 and keep shooting happily with my 5D3 If I really need the tax writeoff I'd be more inclined to look into the 5Ds as a studio body to complement the 5D3.

 

[gmon750]

4k in a Mk3 successor would only make sense, I just wish it wasn't delayed til August (if this is accurate). $4000 price drop on the 1DC suggests this may well come true. 4k at $3500 in a 5 series and 4k in a 1DC at $8000 makes a lot more sense. (a la Sony a7s vs Sony FS7)

Delayed? The 5D was normally refreshed every four years. Even if it's delayed until August, it's still almost year earlier.

 

[Lee Jay]

4k in a Mk3 successor would only make sense, I just wish it wasn't delayed til August (if this is accurate). $4000 price drop on the 1DC suggests this may well come true. 4k at $3500 in a 5 series and 4k in a 1DC at $8000 makes a lot more sense. (a la Sony a7s vs Sony FS7)

Delayed? The 5D was normally refreshed every four years. Even if it's delayed until August, it's still almost year earlier.

Announcements:

5D: August 22, 2005
5DII: September 17, 2008 (3 years 1 month)
5DIII: March 2, 2012 (3 years 6 months)
5DIV: August, 2015 (3 years 5 months)?

 

[tyger11]

4k in a Mk3 successor would only make sense, I just wish it wasn't delayed til August (if this is accurate). $4000 price drop on the 1DC suggests this may well come true. 4k at $3500 in a 5 series and 4k in a 1DC at $8000 makes a lot more sense. (a la Sony a7s vs Sony FS7)

Delayed? The 5D was normally refreshed every four years. Even if it's delayed until August, it's still almost year earlier.

The four-year update schedule was when the market was very different. For Canon to ignore the competition for 4 year spans would be incredibly neglectful of them. Not that they're going to increase their update frequency, but they _should_. Four years is an eternity nowadays, especially if the Mk IV is intended to compete with other cams in the video arena. But we'll see what happens at CP+ and NAB.

 

[Orangutan]

Canon must be well aware by now that they can't just drop a 5D3 with a few tweaks and a bump in ISO. They got raked over the coals by Nikon and their loyal fans with the weak DR in the 5D3.

Only if you define "raked over the coals" as being inundated by customers eager to buy at high prices. The 5D3 outsold everything Nikon had up to the much-newer D750 (which appears to be a pretty good product). Yeah, it's time for a refresh on the 5D3, but Canon seems to have a good handle on matching new bodies to eager markets.

 

[Lee Jay]

4k in a Mk3 successor would only make sense, I just wish it wasn't delayed til August (if this is accurate). $4000 price drop on the 1DC suggests this may well come true. 4k at $3500 in a 5 series and 4k in a 1DC at $8000 makes a lot more sense. (a la Sony a7s vs Sony FS7)

Delayed? The 5D was normally refreshed every four years. Even if it's delayed until August, it's still almost year earlier.

The four-year update schedule ...

Never existed (see above).

 

[PureClassA]

4k in a Mk3 successor would only make sense, I just wish it wasn't delayed til August (if this is accurate). $4000 price drop on the 1DC suggests this may well come true. 4k at $3500 in a 5 series and 4k in a 1DC at $8000 makes a lot more sense. (a la Sony a7s vs Sony FS7)

Delayed? The 5D was normally refreshed every four years. Even if it's delayed until August, it's still almost year earlier.

The four-year update schedule ...

Never existed (see above).

Yeah I dunno where this 4 year business got started. Never has been. 3 calendar years has been about right for more recent Canon history. And by "delayed" I only meant delayed compared to this impending March release of the high res bodies. We were all looking for a 5D4 but it turned out to be a 5DS. We got 5D3 and 6D in 2013. The 1dX in 2012 I think. That's what next. The 1DX2. And given today's other announcement, that model will replace both the 1DX and the 1DC

 

[Big_Ant_TV_Media]

Hope the fps goes from 8-10 with a 1.6 crop mode damnn august is a long wait

 

[ejenner]

I don't really need anything more than the 5DIII, but I'm going to start saving in case this has Sony-like DR. Instead of getting a new release 2-3 years after the release, this might just be one I get quickly.

My hopes:

24-28 Mp
4k video
8fps
Sony-like DR at base ISO (no banding etc...)
$3500

That would definitely be enough to get be buying quickly. Even with 22Mp and no 4k I'd jump on it.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

I don't really need anything more than the 5DIII, but I'm going to start saving in case this has Sony-like DR. Instead of getting a new release 2-3 years after the release, this might just be one I get quickly.

My hopes:

24-28 Mp
4k video
8fps
Sony-like DR at base ISO (no banding etc...)
$3500

That would definitely be enough to get be buying quickly. Even with 22Mp and no 4k I'd jump on it.

that would be nice (other than short on reach a bit) and in another 3-4 years merge this with the 50MP and then wow!!

 

[jcarapet]

Thoughts are this

1. For a semi-pro, the 5diii is more than enough camera. I have never had a complaint on image quality when I have blown up images for prints. It's staying in the bag for the next 10 years (hopefully)
2. Don't discount brand loyalty about Canon copying Sony's product line. Lets look at Samsung and their phones. While they have been the innovators and put lots of good phones out, once Apple remotely matched specs they took the market lead, at least last quarter. Canon will be fine for a while matching specs.
3. I am honestly interested in an innovation oriented camera market. While I am not buying, I am intrigued by what is coming out. Sony has been doing amazing work, and i applaud that they are making viable options. Samsung too. While it probably isn't selling great, the NX1 is a game changer in terms of performance specs. I just wish they had a good lens lineup and a name backing to make themselves more compelling.

 

[Mitch.Conner]

I'm looking forward to what the 5d4 has to offer.

 

[zim]

I don't really need anything more than the 5DIII, but I'm going to start saving in case this has Sony-like DR. Instead of getting a new release 2-3 years after the release, this might just be one I get quickly.

My hopes:

24-28 Mp
4k video
8fps
Sony-like DR at base ISO (no banding etc...)
$3500

That would definitely be enough to get be buying quickly. Even with 22Mp and no 4k I'd jump on it.

that would be nice (other than short on reach a bit) and in another 3-4 years merge this with the 50MP and then wow!!

+1 to both
Especially happy with 24 and no 4k if that is what would keep the price to the 5D3's opening price.

The doubt I have and what will be fascinating to find out about is what the 5Ds brings to the table in crop mode though. If in crop mode it gives 8fps and image quality (not size obviously) the same as the 5DIV then that makes it a very attractive proposition.
ISO 6400 is the kicker though but.... can't wait for someone to test letting it under expose and lift in post to the equal ISO of a 5D3, say at 12800 if it turns out to be the same then the 5Ds becomes an amazing fit, for me that is ;D

Either way exciting times!

 

[gsealy]

It seems as though the 5DIV would be something that I would think about buying at some point (given the 'specs' being discussed above). I really like the versatility and quality of the 5DIII as opposed to a more specialized camera. I use mine to do video and HDMI output to the Atomos as well as shoot still photography. If the 5DIV has 4K capability, then it becomes super attractive as long as I can record externally. So it should be interesting.

 

[Omar H]

I join the ranks of those waiting for the new 5DIV... but only to get the MkIII at a better price!! I want a fully covered camera, not grey market. So we'll see!