Why is Canon Holding Back on Video Features on DSLRs? WATCH IT!

[John2016]

I say this as someone that makes their living shooting video: If you want video oriented features and performance from a camera, BUY A VIDEO CAMERA. These are STILLS cameras. Any video features are a bonus. But even on video oriented forums now, the threads and topics with the most views and reply's are the ones on DSLRS.

I mean I get it, it's crazy what you can do with one now, for not a lot of money, but I'm tired of hearing all of the broke **** **er's crying because a still camera can't do everything dedicated video cameras that cost anywhere from $10k-$100K can do.

Here's the thing, people aren't complaining because it can't do things that a $10k-$100k camera can do, they are complaining because you have a 1+ year old a7r II that has many more features on the video front and it's only $3200. They are complaining because the MK4 is missing very BASIC features that is super easy to implement such as focus peaking, which just so happens to be on the M5.

At the end of the day, people want VALUE. You can't fault them for being disappointed that very basic features that are in older and cheaper cameras is not to be found in this $3,500 camera. Especially if they've invested into a lot of glass and are financially "locked" into the system.

if it doesn't have value, don't buy it. the world is hard enough as it is with bitching and whining about a feature that really is stupid on a DSLR.

on a mirrorless it makes more sense. the 5D Mark IV is not a mirrorless.

it's also disingenuous because the original poster ONLY posts bitching and whining about video.

Did I wrote this article? Who is whining here? Internet is full with articles and questions from "professionals" about 5dMkIV. Canon EOS 1Dx mk2 is used on a HI-END commercial and Director and D.P is speechless why the camera don't have ZEBRAS LOL Great comedy ;D...

@"the world is hard enough as it is with bitching and whining about a feature that really is stupid on a DSLR."
If this is not a camera for video why so many people want to use it? Oh right... maybe a small body could be very useful on set? (Action camera smaller then C300)

Tell this to Shane Hurlbut (do you even know who he is?)
Act of Valor (2012) Canon EOS-5D Mark II

C or D Cameras:
Mad Max: Fury Road (2015) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Elysium (2013) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Noah (2014) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Frankenweenie (2012) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
The Avengers (2012) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
The Bourne Legacy (2012) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
Thor: The Dark World (2013) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
127 Hours (2010) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
Black Swan (2010) Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Iron Man 2 (2010) Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
And many many more...

Ignoring all postings and reviews about this "disaster" is for sure the wrong way... Happy filming

Except all you posted was the Mark II .. at the time no other full frame camera or ILC camera really offered that ability, and if the Mark II was and is still good enough, then obviously even the movie industry doesn't need all the bullsh*t features you claim they do.

Since then, Canon has basically went .. we don't see the point of getting into this. They came out with the Mark III (which isn't listed). They also came out with cinema EOS.

This is the Mark IV. It's primarily a stills camera. there's other EOS video cameras.

Who's whining? you are.

That's all you have posted here, is nothing except whining about a small niche market that obviously canon doesn't care to go after.

there's other tools out there .. go infest their forums.

however it's funny that you and other posters both for all your apparent video expertise ignore the fact that a non-EVF camera simply does not make sense for a pure hybrid stills and video camera and that you think a hack on a DSLR does.

Canon 5D MK III's Notable TV/Movie Credits:

Anabelle
The Boxtrolls
The Dictator
House of Cards (US)
and many many more.
5dMKIV and 1DXMKII is actually in production (B&C camera) with all the problems which could be so easy avoided. Can you imagine that there is a "small multi million niche market" asking about a small dslr body for filming?

@"not make sense"
For who? It looks like not for the movie industry!

When people run out of any constructive arguments they are becoming very "PERSONAL". This forum is really famous for that.

 

[Loswr]

5dMKIV and 1DXMKII is actually in production (B&C camera) with all the problems which could be so easy avoided.

So according to you, the people who decide which camera(s) to use are now choosing the 5DIV. In spite of all the problems you claim is has. Amazing. :

 

[John2016]

5dMKIV and 1DXMKII is actually in production (B&C camera) with all the problems which could be so easy avoided.

So according to you, the people who decide which camera(s) to use are now choosing the 5DIV. In spite of all the problems you claim is has. Amazing. :

I don't know if this is amazing but people which are using the camera(s) have not much choice. Production love to crash the 5d's ;D This is fact. Also the same people complain in all forums about this political decision from Canon to cut all production friendly features. (Protecting the C line)
Would you agree with me if the camera would have few more options (not asking about GLOBAL SHUTTER) this would be better for filming? We don't have much choice here. :-\

 

[Loswr]

We don't have much choice here. :-\

Seriously? Canon has a monopoly on the B/C/D camera market. Lol. :

 

[John2016]

We don't have much choice here. :-\

Seriously? Canon has a monopoly on the B/C/D camera market. Lol. :

Monopoly NO - using it hell yes:

C or D Cameras:
Mad Max: Fury Road (2015) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Elysium (2013) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Noah (2014) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Frankenweenie (2012) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
The Avengers (2012) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
The Bourne Legacy (2012) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
Thor: The Dark World (2013) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
127 Hours (2010) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
Black Swan (2010) Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Iron Man 2 (2010) Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera

 

[John2016]

Mad max set ;D

 

[Loswr]

We don't have much choice here. :-\

Seriously? Canon has a monopoly on the B/C/D camera market. Lol. :

Monopoly NO - using it hell yes:

C or D Cameras:
Mad Max: Fury Road (2015) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Elysium (2013) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Noah (2014) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Frankenweenie (2012) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
The Avengers (2012) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
The Bourne Legacy (2012) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
Thor: The Dark World (2013) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
127 Hours (2010) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
Black Swan (2010) Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Iron Man 2 (2010) Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera

Wow, 11 productions in 5 years. You're right, not much choice. : : :

As was pointed out, your own 'evidence' that the 5DIV is a 'disaster' suggests that it's preferred 3:1. It's pathetic when you're refuted by your own post.

 

[John2016]

We don't have much choice here. :-\

Seriously? Canon has a monopoly on the B/C/D camera market. Lol. :

Monopoly NO - using it hell yes:

C or D Cameras:
Mad Max: Fury Road (2015) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Elysium (2013) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Noah (2014) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Frankenweenie (2012) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
The Avengers (2012) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
The Bourne Legacy (2012) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
Thor: The Dark World (2013) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
127 Hours (2010) - Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera /actioncam
Black Swan (2010) Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera
Iron Man 2 (2010) Canon EOS-5D Mark II Camera

Wow, 11 productions in 5 years. You're right, not much choice. : : :

As was pointed out, your own 'evidence' that the 5DIV is a 'disaster' suggests that it's preferred 3:1. It's pathetic when you're refuted by your own post.

I understand your point but I'm not the only one complaining and using it
This are "only" 11+ productions (some with over $200 mil budget) which I'm aware of it. IMDB will show you many many more...

 

[Bennymiata]

So many people whine on about not having zebras, but what use is it when you have DPAF and a skilled cameraman?

 

[3kramd5]

Let's make your guys happy: I'm out here. I really hope Magic lantern team will provide more evidence how this "LEGENDARY" camera is just a crippled generalist.

lol.

It is certainly a generalist camera, arguably the best one on the market.

Crippled... to repeat a theme, I do not think that means what you think it means. Crippled means severely damaged. Lacking a feature or two which are superfluous to its primary use cases does not crippled make.

 

[aero1126]

So many people whine on about not having zebras, but what use is it when you have DPAF and a skilled cameraman?

Christ, logic like this bothers me. I mean why own a car? After all, you could always walk everywhere, you are a skilled walker, right?

Again, people aren't whining because they won't be able to do something without zebras or focus peaking, they are whining because those features could potentially make their life easier and competitors have those features in camera bodies that cost less thank a MKIV which doesn't have those features. Heck, Canon is giving the M5 focus peaking...Why are you not a little disappointed that there are helpful features on a significantly cheaper camera but not the MKIV?

 

[RunAndGun]

So many people whine on about not having zebras, but what use is it when you have DPAF and a skilled cameraman?

Zebras are for exposure. You're thinking of peaking to help with focus.

 

[AvTvM]

Hi,
Why no one complaint that a Black Magic Cinema Camera cannot shoot stills like a DSLR??

Have a nice day.

+1000

So sick and tired of the "4k video must be in every stills camera" idiots.

 

[tmroper]

It's actually a great video, but not until about 3/4 of the way in, when they stop talking about brands, codecs, etc, and get into some much more important things about still photography vs video. You also realize how every photographer and videographer/filmmaker truly does have different needs from their equipment.

 

[privatebydesign]

Actually YES.
Pointing to problems in this forum is called WHINING!

when it's all you do? yes it's whining.

this was your first of 47 posts.. you have basically "said" the same thing the other 40 some odd:

"From my 20 colleagues 16 went to Sony. Canon had a huge chance to innovate the market but this is a DEAD HORSE. I invested over 20k in Canon glass and I own Canon EOS-1D X Mark II.
Without the correct LUT and 4:4:4 output this is just a nice Z camera. We all been waiting for Canon to give us some innovation but in 2016 a touch screen and WIFI is simple not enough...
Fact is Sony is taking over and Canon with this strange marketing strategy is not going anywhere.
Protecting the C line is a very bad mistake..."

So pathetic it's funny.

Jack

True.

When you realize these clowns are just pulling numbers out their butt it makes for a smile or two.

Even the almighty A7S II is 4:2:2, so why Canon should be putting out a 4:4:4 to be competitive I don't know. Logic, it trips me up every time.