Why only 20.2 MP for the 1DXMarkII ?

[Don Haines]

Just wondering if Canon is telling us that 20.2 MP is "enough" for a FF DSLR, and that more MP isn't needed for "quality" images ?

I think it is part of the limitation of it having a CF card slot and power consumption. By the time that only a dual CFast slot SKU 1D X body comes out then expect 50MP sensors to be employed by as early as 2020.

I must be a beta-tester for the 1DX4.... I have a DSLR with 8Mpixels and it works great

 

[KitsVancouver]

Because a camera aimed journalism will require ISO 6400 with low noise?
Because megapixel reduce the image transfer speed?
Because a double page print magazine requires 16 megapixel?
Because humans do not distinguish details above 300DPI?

+1

also people have been starting to suggest you need 1/(2x fl) (or similar) minimum speed for the 5Ds(R)

if you're shooting with a 400mmfl in somewhat low light do you really want a minimum 1/800 speed?.. you've just lost half your photons, and that's before we look at the ability of the sensor to turn photons into bytes.

This is a sports/wildlife camera not a landscape camera.

No doubt it's a sports camera. I wonder if Canon is "moving" studio/portrait photographers to the 5D series.

 

[Maiaibing]

Because a double page print magazine requires 16 megapixel?

Long time since you sold to a magazine?

 

[privatebydesign]

Because a double page print magazine requires 16 megapixel?

Long time since you sold to a magazine?

Too true!

I remember years ago having a 4mp 1D and a magazine wanting to use an image but saying it was too small, I resampled the file at the size they wanted and sent it back, they were extatically happy that I had a high resolution image as well!

Also there is the story of Joe McNally who convinced National Geographic that digital was an acceptable medium when he showed the executives 20" x 30" prints from the 4mp Nikon cameras at the time.

I once sent a sample 170kb image in to a magazine for content approval, they ran it as it was!

 

[RGF]

Because a double page print magazine requires 16 megapixel?

Long time since you sold to a magazine?

Too true!

I remember years ago having a 4mp 1D and a magazine wanting to use an image but saying it was too small, I resampled the file at the size they wanted and sent it back, they were extatically happy that I had a high resolution image as well!

Also there is the story of Joe McNally who convinced National Geographic that digital was an acceptable medium when he showed the executives 20" x 30" prints from the 4mp Nikon cameras at the time.

I once sent a sample 170kb image in to a magazine for content approval, they ran it as it was!

a number of years ago, I got a great image of bull moose shredding its velvet near Wonder Lake in Denali National Park.

1D M2 (? - camera was around 11 MP). I was far enough away that I had to crop the image in half. I printed it 12x18 and the image very good, sharp enough, ...

 

[bdunbar79]

Who cares about printing? Sports shooters today (the intent of the camera) don't print. We need photos that get blown up big...on the Internet. In that case, 4 MP's are not enough and in my opinion 18MP images cropped too heavily suck. Most of them get rejected. More MP's are always better. With that said, 18 or 20 are enough, but I'm tiring of the 4 MP or print 16x12 in the magazine war stories that are irrelevant.

 

[RGF]

Who cares about printing? Sports shooters today (the intent of the camera) don't print. We need photos that get blown up big...on the Internet. In that case, 4 MP's are not enough and in my opinion 18MP images cropped too heavily suck. Most of them get rejected. More MP's are always better. With that said, 18 or 20 are enough, but I'm tiring of the 4 MP or print 16x12 in the magazine war stories that are irrelevant.

irrelevant perhaps to you but not to me. I print. I don't shoot sports, I shoot wildlife. I seldom submit anything full rez to the internet, perhaps you do, if so (in all seriousness) I would like to know how it is used. My internet submissions (not paid) are generally 1000 on a side, max.

 

[KitsVancouver]

I'm not a professional but I care about the best possible IQ I can capture for my kids as they grow up. For me, resolution is a big deal because it is part of the capture of the moment. For some, that capture only considers the memory but for me, I also want as many fine details as possible. It's too bad the technology in this camera can't satisfy both sports shooters and those looking for maximum IQ.

 

[slclick]

Where does it say the 1Dx line is a strictly sports shooter body? Canon did away with it's separate 1D bodies and merged into a best of both worlds system. I am not convinced the emergence of the 5Ds/r lines changed the non sports usage of the 1Dx.

 

[dslrdummy]

I hope 20mp is enough because I've just sold my 5Diii and am in the process of getting rid of the 7Dii for a 1DXii. I shoot sports (on big fields) and wildlife and usually crop so it could be touch and go. But I reckon it will be worth it for the speed and AF in AI servo which I expect to be stellar.