Why the DxO bashing?

[CarlTN]

Oh, and like many others, I think DxO's software is good (probably the best for noise reduction).

I'd argue for automatic distortion correction as well.

Well, when I asked about noise reduction software last year, I was lambasted for it. According to many (on CR anyway), there's no such thing as noise reduction, only image softening. I tend to disagree very much, even with the NR available from Adobe. I've not tried DXO...perhaps if they offered it free to Canon owners in return for their bias against the brand, I would opt to try it out?

 

[Rienzphotoz]

Oh, and like many others, I think DxO's software is good (probably the best for noise reduction).

I'd argue for automatic distortion correction as well.

Well, when I asked about noise reduction software last year, I was lambasted for it. According to many (on CR anyway), there's no such thing as noise reduction, only image softening. I tend to disagree very much, even with the NR available from Adobe. I've not tried DXO...perhaps if they offered it free to Canon owners in return for their bias against the brand, I would opt to try it out?

I use noise reduction on many images, I guess some people would like to argue that it is not noise reduction and that it is is only "image softening", maybe it makes them look intelligent if they use an alternative word then what the software developer has chosen to name it ... I know some people call landing the flight a "controlled fall" coz it makes them look intelligent ... maybe they are just pessimistic people who cannot build any useful software or hardware but would like to come across as intelligent people with "clever" words to describe everything - or maybe they just want attention ;D

 

[infared]

Oh, and like many others, I think DxO's software is good (probably the best for noise reduction).

I'd argue for automatic distortion correction as well.

Yes...I'd agree...there lens correction is very good (unless you own Panasonic or Olympus lenses...no modules), but I would argue that NIK Define is just as good, if not better for NR. I think DxO "Prime" is overrated and basically amounts to extremely time-consuming image softening....but I am open to hear from anyone with a more positive experience than I have had with it......

 

[Rienzphotoz]

It is so interesting to see all the excuses.
One company has lower DXO scores due inferior read out and higher noise, less QE , lighter CFA . less good electronic signal chain = older sensor tech that was at the peak 10 years ago and before other companies start to make cmos sensors.
Now some people here are busy with trying to trivialize measurements as DR, low read out noise, high color resolution because Canon can not keep up in the sensor development with others.
And that is what DXO shows today

There we go :

 

[Don Haines]

It is so interesting to see all the excuses.
One company has lower DXO scores due inferior read out and higher noise, less QE , lighter CFA . less good electronic signal chain = older sensor tech that was at the peak 10 years ago and before other companies start to make cmos sensors.
Now some people here are busy with trying to trivialize measurements as DR, low read out noise, high color resolution because Canon can not keep up in the sensor development with others.
And that is what DXO shows today

You don't get it.... They are bashing DXO in general. The flaws and bias apply to all manufacturers.

 

[Roo]

It is so interesting to see all the excuses.
One company has lower DXO scores due inferior read out and higher noise, less QE , lighter CFA . less good electronic signal chain = older sensor tech that was at the peak 10 years ago and before other companies start to make cmos sensors.
Now some people here are busy with trying to trivialize measurements as DR, low read out noise, high color resolution because Canon can not keep up in the sensor development with others.
And that is what DXO shows today

There we go :

Given the antagonistic writing style and that the member/posts have been removed I guess the serial pest that shall not be named has been back again lol Good efficient work mods!

 

[jrista]

It is so interesting to see all the excuses.
One company has lower DXO scores due inferior read out and higher noise, less QE , lighter CFA . less good electronic signal chain = older sensor tech that was at the peak 10 years ago and before other companies start to make cmos sensors.
Now some people here are busy with trying to trivialize measurements as DR, low read out noise, high color resolution because Canon can not keep up in the sensor development with others.
And that is what DXO shows today

There we go :

Given the antagonistic writing style and that the member/posts have been removed I guess the serial pest that shall not be named has been back again lol Good efficient work mods!

Aye. He's been around for a while...he just kept his mouth shut until now. Wonderful...the cat is out of the bag, and you know what they say about herding cats...

 

[Eldar]

It's his second alias in three months. He was mikea in December. Edward (eml58) gave him a good beating and off he went. Reappeard as Nalle Puh (Swedish for Winnie the Pooh) and apparently he's gone again. Can't say I'll miss him. But on the other hand, he does stur up some good discussions

 

[zim]

It's his second alias in three months. He was mikea in December. Edward (eml58) gave him a good beating and off he went. Reappeard as Nalle Puh (Swedish for Winnie the Pooh) and apparently he's gone again. Can't say I'll miss him. But on the other hand, he does stur up some good discussions

true true, and his spelling is getting better

 

[Don Haines]

[Wonderful...the cat is out of the bag, and you know what they say about herding cats...

This is what they say about cat herding....

Cat Herders

 

[Maui5150]

My complaint has always been, the numbers, while calculated, are irrelevant, and I have never seen ANYONE provide any reasonable proof of meaning.

As a test:

Which would you rather own and which will provide a better picture:

Nikon D3s or a Nikon D3300

According to DXO Marks these cameras score the same.

Is the D3s a better camera?
Will it produce better images?

If you chose the D3s, and since DXO gives them the same score, you have some 'splainin to do

 

[J.R.]

It is so interesting to see all the excuses.
One company has lower DXO scores due inferior read out and higher noise, less QE , lighter CFA . less good electronic signal chain = older sensor tech that was at the peak 10 years ago and before other companies start to make cmos sensors.
Now some people here are busy with trying to trivialize measurements as DR, low read out noise, high color resolution because Canon can not keep up in the sensor development with others.
And that is what DXO shows today

There we go :

Given the antagonistic writing style and that the member/posts have been removed I guess the serial pest that shall not be named has been back again lol Good efficient work mods!

Wow! He was found out without having used "motive" in any of his posts? Looks like the mods have been working overtime! ;D ;D

 

[rpt]

[Wonderful...the cat is out of the bag, and you know what they say about herding cats...

This is what they say about cat herding....

Cat Herders

Hilarious!

 

[Sporgon]

You mean Whinnie the Pooh was He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named ??? ?

BOY I am gonna get me one of those Zeiss Otus 58 1.4s !! Have you seen what that lens has done for his photography ?

Who said "gear doesn't matter" ? :-X

 

[Eldar]

[Wonderful...the cat is out of the bag, and you know what they say about herding cats...

This is what they say about cat herding....

Cat Herders

Hilarious!

+1000!

 

[Roo]

[Wonderful...the cat is out of the bag, and you know what they say about herding cats...

This is what they say about cat herding....

Cat Herders

Absolute gold!!

 

[jrista]

[Wonderful...the cat is out of the bag, and you know what they say about herding cats...

This is what they say about cat herding....

LOL

 

[jrista]

You mean Whinnie the Pooh was He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named ??? ?

BOY I am gonna get me one of those Zeiss Otus 58 1.4s !! Have you seen what that lens has done for his photography ?

Who said "gear doesn't matter" ? :-X

You guys do realize he used the name Nalle Puh on multiple occasions previously, right?

And I agree, the Otus was like his "yellow sun"...it supercharged his photography.

 

[ahab1372]

It's his second alias in three months. He was mikea in December. Edward (eml58) gave him a good beating and off he went. Reappeard as Nalle Puh (Swedish for Winnie the Pooh) and apparently he's gone again. Can't say I'll miss him. But on the other hand, he does stur up some good discussions

I'm pretty sure I have seen him with yet another alias a while ago. That makes three at least.

 

[Rienzphotoz]

It's his second alias in three months. He was mikea in December. Edward (eml58) gave him a good beating and off he went. Reappeard as Nalle Puh (Swedish for Winnie the Pooh) and apparently he's gone again. Can't say I'll miss him. But on the other hand, he does stur up some good discussions

I'm pretty sure I have seen him with yet another alias a while ago. That makes three at least.

I wonder why he is so desperate to be on this site ... but again, I too am on a rumor site discussing all kinds of not so essential stuff :-[ ... I guess the only consolation/justification for me is that I am not banned ;D