Wishlist for 6D mark II - 80D with a full frame sensor?

[Drum]

There is always the 9 cross type points system out of the 60d. This would satisfy the canon desire to keep the pro- market separated and also give an 800% increase in the points of the AF system !! Canons incremental upgrades would not suggest anything more than 22mp, however DR could be increased but I wouldn't bet on it. Like all here I would love to get a full frame 80D but it will not happen, my money would be on an FF 60D

I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but I don't recall Canon ever going backwards in the number of AF points with the next iteration of a line. Also, with regards to using an APSC AF sensor in a FF camera, see my post above. The mere suggestion of doing such a thing demonstrates a major lack of understanding when it comes to AF systems.

You obviously didn't get my point= People on this topic are saying that the next 6d has to have an AF similarthe 19 points of the old 7d or the 45 points of the 80d. My point was that Canon don't have to do that at all, they can just make the current 6d has all cross type points and not encroach on the superior AF systems of the 5D line or 1D line.

 

[x-vision]

The role in the product line is an "entry level full-frame". To that end, it will evolve to have a set of specs that land it below (well below) the next position (in this case the future 5D4).

Heh, I have a completely different view on this 8).

Back in 2011-2012, there were strong rumors that Nikon would introduce a sub-$1500 FF camera (which turned out to be false, as the D600 was announced at $2099).

The 6D always felt to me like a (hastily put together) 'response' to that rumored sub-$1500 FF camera.

In addition, the 6D seems to have been conceived after the 5DIII specs were locked.
So, not only was the 6D designed as a $1500 camera - but Canon had to cripple it further, as they couldn't change the 5DIII specs to differentiate it from the 6D.

This time around, though, we have a completely different situation.
Nikon's D750 has proven more popular than the cheaper D610 (that is, FF buyers are evidently paying the premium for the better specs).
Also, unlike last time, Canon has had enough time to properly differentiate the 5DIV and the 6DII.

So, like others, I expect that the 6DII to be a D750 competitor, not a D610 competitor.
A FF version of the 80D will fit this description nicely - with an advanced AF system, articulating screen, etc..
The price will be higher as well, of course - possibly $2200 (and hopefully not higher).

What's not clear to me is how exactly Canon is planning to ensure that pros buy the 5DIV and not the 6DII.
In addition to the articulating screen and the more advanced AF system, how will the 5DIV be better than the 6DII.
Is Canon going to use different sensors again? Will they give the 6DII a plastic body ??
Don't know. These are the things that are not clear to me.

Like I said, though, I expect that the 6DII will be a D750 competitor, not an 'entry-level' camera.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

My two most important wishes for a 6D2 have zero to do with AF:
1. better dynamic range (landscape photography)
2. TILTING LCD!!!!!!!!!!! I do a lot of ground level macro with critical focusing via magnified live view, and I really miss my tilting LCD from the 60D. In fact, my favorite macro lens is manual focus.

That being said, a 19-point AF system would be the minimal, and likely 45 point AF system the optimal system to ensure sales to people who are likely to use it for general photography.

A tilting LCD would be useful outdoors if you could actually see fine details in bright light. I doubt that a shade or hood would be ideal, I guess its a black cloth over your head and the lcd, 19th century style like looking at images on ground glass.

I believe that some of the external LCD screens with shades might be a better solution, and can be used with many different cameras.

Here is one that does what you need, I'm almost convinced from the hype to get one

I think that there are many similar external monitors with shades and hoods that include peaking for sharp manual focus.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/840777-REG/Dot_Line_CS_SWIVI_SWIVI_External_Monitor_for.html

 

[HattyDamp]

Hi...i am a new user here. I don't know which autofocus system they will put into the 6D mark II, but I don't see it being lower performing compared to their cheapest new cameras.So whatever system gets put inside, it should be a huge and massive step forward compared to the current 6D system.I expect all of their new cameras from now onward to have the new sensor technology too.

turnkey pcb

 

[jeffa4444]

I fully expect the 6D II to be in the 28 mp range. Canon made a mistake by putting fewer megapixels into the original 6D than the 5DIII. They ended up with an entrance level camera with better low light performance than their professional model. They won't make that mistake again.

I would also expect that the 6DII autofocus will have more in common with the 70D than the 80D, although it will likely have multiple f8 focus points to support sales of the 100-400 L with extender. Body style will remain similar to the XXD models (no joystick, etc.) Articulating screen and touch screen controls highly likely.

I didn't see it at all as a mistake but an option. Better low light true but far less options for anything moving. The 3 main FF bodies are very different, then the S/R came along and muddied things up a bit...THAT was Canon playing the MP game with competitors and silencing critics. I know quite a few 6D users and they are all very satisfied. They knew what they were getting into what with center AF but were all pleasantly surprised by the iso functions. Yet no one thought it was an inexpensive way to get around buying a 5D3, it's severely less robust feature set is well known and accepted.

Different tools for different folks.

One of the most in-hospitable places in the UK is beyond Tavy Cleave on Dartmoor in driving fine rain in winter. My 6D has survived this without any issues as it has on many a time on the North Cornish coastline. Obviously it was not left out in torrential rain but its much hardier than people think.