Wrecked my 6D today, what a POS
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ontarian said:
Well, congrats on reviving it. I guess that says something about Canon's durability...to get drenched, then keep on ticking, is pretty nice.
Out of curiosity...is the 6D weather sealed? If so, is it supposed to be rated the same as the 5D III or 7D? I guess, at the very least, I would suspect some corners to be cut in order to support the built in WiFi and ***. The nice heavy-duty magnesium frame needs to be adjusted a bit to allow large enough holes for those signals to get through...wonder if that may also impact weather sealability...
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Well, not only this site has it stated (http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/tech/report/2012/10/), as someone said, but we get this illustration found in this other site (http://imagesandcameras.com/canon-eos-6d-dslr-camera):
Where did they get this from, I dunno, but I beleive they got it from a Canon press release or something like that.
But the truth is that no camera is safe. Read this: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3371529
Where did they get this from, I dunno, but I beleive they got it from a Canon press release or something like that.
But the truth is that no camera is safe. Read this: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3371529
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jdramirez said:
Thank you for showing this I checked the postage and it is twice the cost of the covers so I will try to get something local but I have bookmarked Amazon it might mean I get something else sent at the same time and combine the cost.
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So the weather sealing on the 5D Mark III is not very good or dependable? This makes Canon look even more silly that for less money Nikon released a camera with an extra 14MP, similar noise leves in RAW, better weather sealing but for less money.
Having said all that, I love my 5D Mark III to bits.
Having said all that, I love my 5D Mark III to bits.
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Awesome stuff! I might jump on that 55mm F1.2 on Craigslist...ontarian said:Thanks for the kind words neuroanatomist. My EOS adapter solution index has grown quite a bit and includes the following lenses.
EdMika Adapters July 25 2013 by Ontarian, on Flickr
I think it might even perhaps be time I update the Canonrumors article on the conversions.
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Jack Douglas said:
Jack,
Yes, this will go over a 300 f2.8.
I will add that when I sold my 300 and bought a 500 f4, this rain sleeve was not longer big enough. I ended up getting a Lens Coat Rain Jacket and absolutely love it! Knowing what I know now I would have spent a little more back then and bought the lens coat for my 300. It is so much nicer to use and if you are trying to protect a $4k lens then whats the difference between $6 and $100?
But yes, this op/tech will work just great on a 300 f2.8.
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I feel greatly sorry for you. No matter how much you asked for it yourself it is always a sad thing you gear starts malfunctioning.
If it's okay with the OP I'dd like to ask you all for some advice in what to do in my own situation. I have a 5D Mark III which is currently in for repair by water damage. Canon has opened up the camera and found several spots where water has damaged multiple parts of the camera.. My problem however is not whether or not water has damaged my camera as canon have already sent me pictures of the internals of my camera. My problem is that this damage has happened over night where i was sleeping in a tent. The camera what functioning perfect when i went to sleep and not at all when i woke again. Therefor i suspect the camera to be damaged only by moisture and condensation, which i find to be less than satisfying.. Another thing to add is that my 5D Mark II was right next to it and it suffered no malfunctions.
I am very disappointed with this. And of course the bill that followed, which right now I'm refusing to pay...
I live in Denmark, if that is of interest for anyone. In Denmark the price for a 5D mark III is just about 4000$ and the cost of the repair is 2800$... Almost 3/4 of the price of a new one...
So if anyone can provide some help in any way i would be more than thankful also pictures like the one of the 6D's sealing would be nice to have. Thank you all in advance!
If it's okay with the OP I'dd like to ask you all for some advice in what to do in my own situation. I have a 5D Mark III which is currently in for repair by water damage. Canon has opened up the camera and found several spots where water has damaged multiple parts of the camera.. My problem however is not whether or not water has damaged my camera as canon have already sent me pictures of the internals of my camera. My problem is that this damage has happened over night where i was sleeping in a tent. The camera what functioning perfect when i went to sleep and not at all when i woke again. Therefor i suspect the camera to be damaged only by moisture and condensation, which i find to be less than satisfying.. Another thing to add is that my 5D Mark II was right next to it and it suffered no malfunctions.
I am very disappointed with this. And of course the bill that followed, which right now I'm refusing to pay...
I live in Denmark, if that is of interest for anyone. In Denmark the price for a 5D mark III is just about 4000$ and the cost of the repair is 2800$... Almost 3/4 of the price of a new one...
So if anyone can provide some help in any way i would be more than thankful also pictures like the one of the 6D's sealing would be nice to have. Thank you all in advance!
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paul13walnut5 said:
No camera is weatherproof, and they are not marketed as such just like there is no bulletproof glass, just "resistant". Of course Canon has no problem with customers "misreading" their sealing diagrams and specs. If you want affordable real bad weather capability, ask Pentax :-\
This has been debated a lot, and my consequence is that only 1d camera bodies are meant for shooting in the rain, for everything else you have to be more or less lucky. With my 60d (~6d sealing it seems to me) I avoid water that directly hits the sealing points, i.e. I only shoot in snow or very light rain for short periods of time and remove water on my camera while shooting and afterwards with a towel.
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I was at a major int. sporting event not that long ago and was on the pitch with the other photographers when it started raining. Everyone, immediately put on the rain coats to protect their equipment - most of them 1D Xs with Canon's official rain cover, and a few Nikons. Everyone that is, but this one westerner. He acted almost as if he was showing off that "hey my equipment is weather proof", which was silly because everyone had pretty much the same gear. Point is, that if it is your employer's gear, protect it. If it is your gear, protect it - possibly even more.
I used to use the op-tech plastic cheap covers but now I have all three sizes of Canon's own rain covers and they are great, much stronger and well made.
I used to use the op-tech plastic cheap covers but now I have all three sizes of Canon's own rain covers and they are great, much stronger and well made.
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Hi, long time reader etc. My personal 7d survived a few light downpours with the 24-70 mk1 attached. While shooting some sea spray in Israel in a spot where it wasn't apparently reaching : I got caught out big time. Now I instinctively turned my back to shield the camera but I think the splash hit mostly on the rear display and buttons. The camera started to malfunction straight away. It had a Sigma 50 attached so I immediately checked the lens seal, not a drop. Battery compartment fine, but water was defiantly leaking out of all top and rear control buttons when I pushed them. To its credit it came back to life for 6 months or so before the corrosion ate its soul, occasionally I slip a battery into it hoping for the miracle. Misdirected seaspray + most cameras= Brick
I got caught out big time. Now I instinctively turned my back to shield the camera but I think the splash hit mostly on the rear display and buttons. The camera started to malfunction straight away. It had a Sigma 50 attached so I immediately checked the lens seal, not a drop. Battery compartment fine, but water was defiantly leaking out of all top and rear control buttons when I pushed them. To its credit it came back to life for 6 months or so before the corrosion ate its soul, occasionally I slip a battery into it hoping for the miracle. Misdirected seaspray + most cameras= Brick
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Thanks Canon1 for good advice. Doesn't make sense to penny pinch.
http://www.lenscoat.com/lenscoat®-raincoat-p-2088.html?osCsid=7b36aa5b86b495795b7c6feebd730496
My idea was to avoid the rain but I experienced my first small sprinkle a couple days back and realized that I was incapable of avoiding this eventuality unless I was prepared to severly restrict my outings - and I'm not!
Jack
http://www.lenscoat.com/lenscoat®-raincoat-p-2088.html?osCsid=7b36aa5b86b495795b7c6feebd730496
My idea was to avoid the rain but I experienced my first small sprinkle a couple days back and realized that I was incapable of avoiding this eventuality unless I was prepared to severly restrict my outings - and I'm not!
Jack
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I think it is sort of stupid to take any piece of expensive electronics out in the "wet". Who knows what "weatherproof" means? It is not defined anywhere. If this stuff were indeed "rain proof" there would be a specification in the spec list telling you so. Something that reads like "Guaranteed to withstand rainfall at 1 inch per hour for 3 hours on any incident on any axis" or just simply something like "Designed for compliance with MIL-STD-883" or something like that. NONE of this stuff says anything like that so to assume that it is rain proof is taking a risk on your part, regardless of what the marketing glossy or folklore heresy says. The word “weatherproof” or “weather sealed” is meaningless w/o a specification.
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David Hull said:
Well, 6d isn't weather rated. Never had an issue with my 5d2/3 and 1Dx. I just spent a few days shooting surfing in LA, on the beach, in the rain/wind/seaspray and have no issues. Canon does rate their cameras as well, 5 series is rated for light rain and high humidity, while the 1 series can resist rain, humidity and all sorts of nastiness (1dx spent a night in 2ft of snow and worked fine). I will find the specifics and post them when I get home.
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Earlier this spring I purposefully went out in light rain for 30-40min with a 5D MKIII and 100mm 2.8L so I could shoot the cherry blossoms here in Seattle in their native habitat (rain) and luckily didn't encounter electo-issues afterwards. Made sure to dry everything off afterwards and kept it under a towel until shooting. That said, it was probably a bad idea to risk hundreds of $ in repairs for a few shots.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aditya-g/8681812357/#in/set-72157633339010129/
I don't have a rain guard but probably should get one, is the OpTech one most people's choice? I bought a Snug-it Batman suit from Delkin but returned it because the buttons became too difficult to press with my limited hand function.
I also thought about a LensCoat for my 70-200 2.8, mostly to avoid being 'that guy,' with the big white lens, but thought it wasn't really worth it, how do you like yours Jack D?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aditya-g/8681812357/#in/set-72157633339010129/
I don't have a rain guard but probably should get one, is the OpTech one most people's choice? I bought a Snug-it Batman suit from Delkin but returned it because the buttons became too difficult to press with my limited hand function.
I also thought about a LensCoat for my 70-200 2.8, mostly to avoid being 'that guy,' with the big white lens, but thought it wasn't really worth it, how do you like yours Jack D?
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Dr.Jones said:
this link, posted twice already, states that the 5DIII sealing is better than the 5D II.
http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/tech/report/2012/10/
I presume there may be other tech reports on that site, which have other little tidbits.
As to your particular case, it's rather difficult to judge what has been going on. Even though one camera is dead, and the other not, maybe even small differences in location may have done it, i.e. one underneath the other, liquid going down, etc. Also, did it rain during the night, was the tent waterproof, i.e. a little water dripping here or there exactly on the one camera, but not the other, while you were sleeping.
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RMC33 said:
I would be interested in seeing a real specification if they have one. I know they did print something in a press release once but I never saw it again.
Looking at the 5DIII manual for specifications, this is the extent of their environmental specification list:
Working Temperature: 0C to +40C, 32F to 104F
Humidity: 85% or less
I didn’t look at the 1Dx, what does it say?
Maybe I am extra paranoid but IMO, if they don't put it in the spec list, then they haven't tested it and don't really know what it does or doesn't do.
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Lots of retailers carry LensCoat products, but worth noting that if you buy a RainCoat (except the smallest one) direct from them, they'll throw in a RainCap for free ($20 value).
I was out shooting in moderate rain for ~1 hr last week with the 1D X + 600 II. No issues, but I think I'll pick up a RainCoat for next time...
I was out shooting in moderate rain for ~1 hr last week with the 1D X + 600 II. No issues, but I think I'll pick up a RainCoat for next time...
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