Your favourite motorsports events
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jimijay said:My favorite motorsport event is Formula One
Wow, quite an interesting photo! Hope he was ok?
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Northstar said:jimijay said:My favorite motorsport event is Formula One
Wow, quite an interesting photo! Hope he was ok?
Ralf Schumacher was fine after that spectacular crash in Melbourne. Martin Brundle's accident in 1996 stood out for a number of reasons. It was the first Australian Grand Prix in held Melbourne for World Championship points but it was also the first test of the new safety measures introduced after Senna's crash. There was nothing left of the car but Brundle walked (ran) away bruise free and was able to restart in the spare car.
If you haven't seen it look for a documentary from 2013 called 1. It covers the 60s through to the 80s when F1 had some of it's most charismatic drivers but the sport was at it deadliest.
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Let's talk more F1. With the unofficial signing of Vettel, the Scuderia continues to disappoint me! WTF? Alonso has two years left on his contract, and is the best driver not named Hamilton. Vettel, on the other hand, has been outperformed by his far less experienced teammate all season.
I understand the move from Vettel's perspective. He's still only 27, he's already won four championships, the Renault engine package is $hit, Newey is taking a less active role in future car development, his younger teammate is making him look bad, and the allure of driving for Ferrari is undeniable.
From Ferrari's perspective, I do not see the appeal of dumping Alonso in favor of Vettel. All Vettel has on Alonso is youth at the expense of far less talent. The Ferrari chassis/engine package is absolute $hit. Kimi can barely make it into Q3 qualifying with the car, and he's by no means a slow driver!
The real winner in all this is McLaren. Fernando better hope McLaren gets its act together, or he could be the most talented driver to only win two championships in his career.
I understand the move from Vettel's perspective. He's still only 27, he's already won four championships, the Renault engine package is $hit, Newey is taking a less active role in future car development, his younger teammate is making him look bad, and the allure of driving for Ferrari is undeniable.
From Ferrari's perspective, I do not see the appeal of dumping Alonso in favor of Vettel. All Vettel has on Alonso is youth at the expense of far less talent. The Ferrari chassis/engine package is absolute $hit. Kimi can barely make it into Q3 qualifying with the car, and he's by no means a slow driver!
The real winner in all this is McLaren. Fernando better hope McLaren gets its act together, or he could be the most talented driver to only win two championships in his career.
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V8Beast said:
I think you've nailed about 90% of it. If reports are correct then Alonso hasn't signed with McLaren but directly with Honda. Ron Dennis confirmed on the weekend that no drivers had yet been signed by McLaren for next year. That creates a very interesting scenario going forward. Does the Honda contract with McLaren allow them to land their own driver within the team? If it doesn't then does Ron want Alonso driving for him next year? There was some talk at the weekend of Alonso taking a 'sabbatical' next year. Honda has an exclusive contract to supply engines to McLaren next year and logic would say that Alonso will drive there but if things go pear shaped they could take their engines and driver where they like in 2016.
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It would be truly dumbfounding if Alonso, arguably the best driver in the field, is forced to take a year sabbatical due to the McLaren/Honda political mess. Only in F1 ;D!
Of course, if that happened Alonso would only have himself to blame since he cost McLaren $100 million. I know Ron Dennis has a big ego, but I don't think anyone could blame him for holding a grudge.
As for the Scuderia, I sometimes wonder why I'm still a Ferrari fan. Since 2006 they have:
1) Ousted Schumacher for Raikkonen
2) Ousted Raikkonen for Alonso
3) Brought Raikkonen back after buying out his contract for him to leave the first time
4) Ousted Alonso for Vettel
5) Fired its Technical Director
6) Fired its President
7) Brought back Rory Byrne
That's a lot of big-name drivers going in and out the door with only one championship to show for it. I propose bringing Ross Brawn back to Maranello ;D
Of course, if that happened Alonso would only have himself to blame since he cost McLaren $100 million. I know Ron Dennis has a big ego, but I don't think anyone could blame him for holding a grudge.
As for the Scuderia, I sometimes wonder why I'm still a Ferrari fan. Since 2006 they have:
1) Ousted Schumacher for Raikkonen
2) Ousted Raikkonen for Alonso
3) Brought Raikkonen back after buying out his contract for him to leave the first time
4) Ousted Alonso for Vettel
5) Fired its Technical Director
6) Fired its President
7) Brought back Rory Byrne
That's a lot of big-name drivers going in and out the door with only one championship to show for it. I propose bringing Ross Brawn back to Maranello ;D
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Interesting views guys, Hamilton has just been announced as new driver for 2015 and will partner Magnussen, and Alonso may take the vacant seat at Mercedes, well that’s how it stands as of this morning!
For me it’s win win as I have always thought highly of Hamilton, so seeing him back with us again next year will improve my mood whilst watching the races!! It’s high time McLaren were back up where they belong so lets hope Honda power brings back the glory days!!!
On a more sombre note, Jules Bianchi has the type of brain damage; which statistically speaking only 10% of victims make a recovery from, my heart nearly stopped when I watched the video as I imagined myself in that JCB seat as that’s my job in Abu Dhabi, the poor guy never stood a chance with that impact!!
From all the reports I read he lost control, countersteered then hit the kerb sideways, this made him airborne so he missed the slowing effects of part of the gravel trap, hence the force of the impact, which estimated at 50G :-[ We can only hope and pray he makes a recovery like Schumacher.
For me it’s win win as I have always thought highly of Hamilton, so seeing him back with us again next year will improve my mood whilst watching the races!! It’s high time McLaren were back up where they belong so lets hope Honda power brings back the glory days!!!
On a more sombre note, Jules Bianchi has the type of brain damage; which statistically speaking only 10% of victims make a recovery from, my heart nearly stopped when I watched the video as I imagined myself in that JCB seat as that’s my job in Abu Dhabi, the poor guy never stood a chance with that impact!!
From all the reports I read he lost control, countersteered then hit the kerb sideways, this made him airborne so he missed the slowing effects of part of the gravel trap, hence the force of the impact, which estimated at 50G :-[ We can only hope and pray he makes a recovery like Schumacher.
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Yes, our thoughts and prayers go out to Bianchi and his family. They didn't show the impact on TV here in the states, and I'm glad they didn't. I'm sure it was horrific, and I have no interest in seeing it. Let's hope he can make some type of recovery!
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Lewis is back! I somehow missed the breaking news until now.
Initial reports indicate that Honda is putting together a power unit that could very well be the class of the field. That said, McLaren already has the Mercedes power unit, which is currently the class of the field, yet is still struggling mightily. Hopefully the team can get the rest of the chassis sorted out.
I'm still shocked at the logic - or lack thereof - behind Ferrari showing Alonso the door in favor of Vettel. Now that there's a vacant seat at Mercedes, I can't imagine him signing with any other team, unless he did indeed sign a contract with Honda directly. If McLaren returns to form, Hamilton and Alonso battling it out once again is going to be epic!
Initial reports indicate that Honda is putting together a power unit that could very well be the class of the field. That said, McLaren already has the Mercedes power unit, which is currently the class of the field, yet is still struggling mightily. Hopefully the team can get the rest of the chassis sorted out.
I'm still shocked at the logic - or lack thereof - behind Ferrari showing Alonso the door in favor of Vettel. Now that there's a vacant seat at Mercedes, I can't imagine him signing with any other team, unless he did indeed sign a contract with Honda directly. If McLaren returns to form, Hamilton and Alonso battling it out once again is going to be epic!
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I missed that breaking news about Hamilton too as it hasn't been reported through my usual sources. Autosport and ESPN haven't run with the story. McLaren have since denied the report through the pitpass site. ESPN are now running with a story, by Maurice Hamilton, speculating that Alonso and Vettel may be teamed together at McLaren.
The Bianchi incident was certainly shocking and I hope for the best for him. I have to admit to being frustrated with all so called experts with great vision...in hindsight. They are hardly helpful.
The Bianchi incident was certainly shocking and I hope for the best for him. I have to admit to being frustrated with all so called experts with great vision...in hindsight. They are hardly helpful.
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Hi Jock.
I too saw the accident, quite horrific, definitely all the best for a speedy recovery to Jules. My sympathies to the recovery driver, he must feel terrible just for being there.
I would like to ask a question, I was confused when watching the clip to see the marshall directly above the crash site waving green with the tractor still in situe.
I know he was technically after the crash, so my question is after you see yellow you slow, no overtaking, then you see green, race is on do you accelerate when you see green in front or do you wait until you pass the green flag before resuming?
This is in no way trying to point fingers at anyone, I have just never had a racing licence or attended a driver briefing!
Cheers,Graham.
I too saw the accident, quite horrific, definitely all the best for a speedy recovery to Jules. My sympathies to the recovery driver, he must feel terrible just for being there.
I would like to ask a question, I was confused when watching the clip to see the marshall directly above the crash site waving green with the tractor still in situe.
I know he was technically after the crash, so my question is after you see yellow you slow, no overtaking, then you see green, race is on do you accelerate when you see green in front or do you wait until you pass the green flag before resuming?
This is in no way trying to point fingers at anyone, I have just never had a racing licence or attended a driver briefing!
Cheers,Graham.
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Hi Graham,
I immediately after watching the video asked the same question, having never been a flag marshal or receiving any training on sectors made me ignorant to the situation.
I hope this link helps explain it for everyone! http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/yes-a-green-flag-was-waving-but-know-the-whole-story/?v=2&s=1&r=8281
End of the day, there’s always wagging fingers when the proverbial hits the fan!! :-\
I immediately after watching the video asked the same question, having never been a flag marshal or receiving any training on sectors made me ignorant to the situation.
I hope this link helps explain it for everyone! http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/yes-a-green-flag-was-waving-but-know-the-whole-story/?v=2&s=1&r=8281
End of the day, there’s always wagging fingers when the proverbial hits the fan!! :-\
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My current favorite motorsport event takes place on the streets of Paris twice a year. It's called la traversee de Paris. Here are a few from this year's winter event. https://www.flickr.com/photos/christophersoddsandsods/sets/72157639684104636/
la traversee de Paris ~ hivernale ~ 2014 by Christopher Mark Perez, on Flickr
la traversee de Paris ~ hivernale ~ 2014 by Christopher Mark Perez, on Flickr
la traversee de Paris ~ hivernale ~ 2014 by Christopher Mark Perez, on Flickr
la traversee de Paris ~ hivernale ~ 2014 by Christopher Mark Perez, on Flickr
If you prefer sharp/static images, take a look in the album I linked to at the top of the page. And if you want to see more, look at my album list on Flicr and you'll find at least four albums from the event.
la traversee de Paris ~ hivernale ~ 2014 by Christopher Mark Perez, on Flickrla traversee de Paris ~ hivernale ~ 2014 by Christopher Mark Perez, on Flickrla traversee de Paris ~ hivernale ~ 2014 by Christopher Mark Perez, on Flickrla traversee de Paris ~ hivernale ~ 2014 by Christopher Mark Perez, on FlickrIf you prefer sharp/static images, take a look in the album I linked to at the top of the page. And if you want to see more, look at my album list on Flicr and you'll find at least four albums from the event.
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Rallye de France Alsace 2014.
We have been really lucky with the weather conditions
https://www.flickr.com/photos/110167492@N02/15459409252/
We have been really lucky with the weather conditions
https://www.flickr.com/photos/110167492@N02/15459409252/
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Hi Jock.
Thank you, that basically confirmed what I suspected, that racing resumes after (or precisely as) you pass the green flag. I have always thought it was a matter of physics and never understood the blazé attitude towards crash sites, if one car spun out and ended up there, why, when these guys are all doing almost exactly the same thing wouldn't another car follow almost the same trajectory, close enough to put them at great risk?
I should like to clarify I had no intention of wagging fingers, I was merely curious, and within the letter of the rule book the marshal was correct, rule book correct, not my call!
Cheers, Graham.
Thank you, that basically confirmed what I suspected, that racing resumes after (or precisely as) you pass the green flag. I have always thought it was a matter of physics and never understood the blazé attitude towards crash sites, if one car spun out and ended up there, why, when these guys are all doing almost exactly the same thing wouldn't another car follow almost the same trajectory, close enough to put them at great risk?
I should like to clarify I had no intention of wagging fingers, I was merely curious, and within the letter of the rule book the marshal was correct, rule book correct, not my call!
Cheers, Graham.
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