Historically, yes that’s all
A few are wondering if Canon has any more announcements to make. Usually this is it. There are various events around the world today for the new products, so I don’t expect more announcements.
I haven’t received any emails from anyone saying to expect another announcement.
What we got right
I like to keep a tally of what we got right and what we got wrong.
Two Tilt-Shift Lenses – Right
We caught wind of 2 lenses about an hour before we did our PMA predictions, very happy we got this one right.
Underwater Camera – Right
– A new source turned out to be right.
SX1 IS in North America – Right
– Reported this a long time ago.
No 1D Replacement – Right
– Reported this a long time ago
No 24-70 or 100-400 Replacements – Right
– We had some rumors for these two lenses, however we did our PMA predictions and went with our solid sources and turned out to be right.
The Bad News
We also have to own up to what didn’t come to fruition.
A New Rebel 500D – Wrong
– I think our spec list for the camera is about right, it’s just not here for PMA. Possible later in the spring like the Rebel XS last year? We did have a source that said no Rebel for PMA, so we were half right!
35L f/1.4L II – Wrong
– I’m a bit bummed we got this wrong. As I reported a long while ago, the 35L wouldn’t be replaced until the new 1Ds. Should have stuck with that source.
A Compact Flash – Wrong
– Makes logical sense, never arrived.
That’s life as a rumors site, I try really hard to be right more than I’m wrong. I don’t think we can ever bat 1.000, but we’ll keep trying.
Thanks for reading!
cr
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Alright so this is it, thanks.
So, no news about a new 10-22? even that lens is really great, I don’t think Canon has to improve a lot about it.
That’s it. Ugggg
disappointing
Well nothing really exciting except for those people that uses Tilt lenses…
But more and more I think nikon takes more time to listen to their customers needs and thus release the expected products such as new updated lens, bodies with deep firmware features (distortion corrections, chromatic corrections…)
etc…
is it the time to switch to nikon family ?
I think Nikon has only recently got there finger out and started to produce what people want e.g how long where people wanting Nikon to release a FF DSLR untill they finally released one. I think Nikon and Sony have taken Canon a bit by surprise latley, b4 Nikons recent rise to power Canon hadnt much to worry about, as they where the ones setting the standards. The ball is now in Canons coart to reclaim the thown. If there 5D2 is a relection of what we will see from Canon in the future, I think i’ll be staying with Canon for a long time.
is it worth to wait for an 500D?
i am a student (so money is short) and i don’t wanna buy my first dslr and one week later it will be replaced with a new model. well, the 450d is more than a year old, so it should be replaced soon, shouldn’t it?
regards
First thanks for all that you do.
Just sad that Canon seems to want to fall behind…
same situation here with me, also student and looking for a dslr.
i´m also waiting for the 500D, but more because i hope for a 450D price cut after the release.
strangely, prices for the 450D gained over the last weeks here in austria, so now is definitely not the time to buy a canon dslr :-(
Certainly a shame not to hear/read of the launch of the 500D DLSR as I was planning (hoping) it would be out and available in the next few weeks. As a novice in such matters, could anyone help me with two questions:
(a) As it was not released today/yesterday, which month do you think the likely/forecast launch date will be.
(b) All brand bias aside (and I would much prefer to stay with Canon) – as the 500D DSLR range is what I would like to get, is it advisable to wait, or should I be considering another brand, and if so, which model.
…(an anticipated thanks for the help).
Great web-site folks – very interesting to read the lead-up to, wish lists and eventual outcomes to product launch rumours.
“If there 5D2 is a relection of what we will see from Canon in the future, I think i’ll be staying with Canon for a long time.”
You’re joking.. too many pixels, partial seals, crippled AF. Aggressive NR in camera. That’s Canon’s future?
Count me out.
this is totally a case of “the grass is greener” thinking…
you think Nikon is doing what customers want but that is because they DIDN”T for so long – that 24-70 is REALLY nice (i shot with it for three months) but it took them 4 years to replace the old 28-70. Their 70-200 still doesn’t compete with the canons on FF and is a wash on a crop and costs 200 more. (the 24-70 is nearly 400 more)
They built a nice flash – it cost nearly 500 dollars…
They built a 12MP ff that costs the same as canons 21mp with video.
they built an amazing wide angle that caught canon off guard a bit I’m sure (they had only recently updated the 16-35 and it still isn’t as great as the 14-24 but is a big step up from the old 16-35)
The rest of nikon “listening to their customers needs” seems to come in the form of endless dx lenses that if you read nikon forums you realize teh nikon people are all pissy about…
Take a moment to read their stuff first – and you will see that they are an unhappy bunch as well.
The internet is both the greatest tool and the greatest annoyance to the camera companies as now all it takes is one or two people to cause everyone to think that there is big problems with a certain item or even company…
relax – take a breath – and see what is coming…
If you aren’t that married to your glass then by all means switch but trust me – it won’t make a difference. The two are neck and neck (for the FIRST TIME after nikon trailing for 8 years) and will probably stay that way for a long time unless someone has a major breakthrough in tech
Well if you guys later get your 500D, lenses, or 1D Mark IV and I don’t get what I want (10-22mm IS USM) I’m going to whine whine whine..just like you.
Big ups to CR for the batting average, even if you can’t spells rumours properly! ;)
Big downs to Canon for such a lame showing. A couple of nice things for sure, but nothing that shows they’re really trying.
The 5D2 is an improvment over the original in nearly every department,and as i have had the original since it came out and am still very happy with its performance( Including the autofocus) i will not be changing my system to Nikon or any other, if thats ok with you.
why would you want IS in a 10-22?
the usm i can understand – but if there isn’t enough light to shoot at a 20th of a second then you need a tripod and on top of that the leaves flags whatever is in the image are going to be soft anyway…from movement
plus are you willing to pay 1000 dollars for that lens? that is what they will charge…
Hahaha…I was just joking….I just want to know how does it feel to be a whiner :-).
Right or Wrong, I don’t care. I check CR everyday on my mobile :)
Thumbs up!
very… no 100-400…
Yeah this site’s like an addiction. Now to get off my ass and take some actual pictures! Pictures? What? You mean this piece of glass and electronics actually does something?
+1
+1 nikon is tempting but the 5D MKII and more importantly this 17mm TS-E make me think Canon is coming around… also have to look at pricing… yes, Nikon is producing nice stuff but you pay a premium for it and in terms of IQ (from cameras) they still aren’t beating Canon… just my 0.02
The existing EF-S 10-22 has already USM.
Anyone want to buy Canon gear?
*sigh*
It’s love and hate with Canon
do you own the camera? Crippled AF? In low light it works on about the same par as my 1D2 did…you want better af then buy a 1ds3…as for NR – shoot raw
LOL then – lol
I have CR at the top of my RSS feeds in Mail. Check it everyday, all the time. Thumbs up for the CR guy! … even if no new 100-400L was announced this time ;-)
lol…. yea, I have to remind myself of that sometimes… anyway, Canon might be done but are other manufacturers? We might still hear something from Tamron/Sigma/Tokina?
five right, three wrong – you did better than my former broker.
No 500d – I’m very dissapointed.
Don’t want to buy the 450d now because I’ve read to much about the “focus issue” at dpreview.
Ok Canon, that’s it! Maybe I’m looking for Panasonic G1.
Cheers
Make that a Panasonic G1 with HD video!
ok patience is a virtue , right ? The Rebel will come , it’s only a question of when . So we have to be positive and think that with the delay , Canon can produce a better camera . And we still have the possibility of Nikon, Panasonic , and Olympus still unannounced . Maybe an aps version of the p6000 . Now that’s optomistic.
So why the obsession with a 35mm f/1.4 update? Yes it is an older lens. But it still works great and is one of the best lens out there optically and mechanically. Not sure I see the justification of Canon spending R&D $s to update this lens when there are other Canon lens that could get the II bump and result in a lot more improvement and value for Canon glass users. IMO, 24-70 IS and 100-400 II are the two biggest updates that will drive new and upgrade lens sales.
Buy a gently used 450 now. You will be happy with it for a long while and will start taking pictures right away as opposed to waiting and missing out on thousands of photos.
We can only hope for sigma or tamron to deliver.
Isn’t it possible to have some more announcements at PMA event?
Like a lens or DSLR camera? That would bring the attention of people for sure.
for the lens that I wanted to see from Canon, I don’t have high hopes that sigma or tamron will deliver (100-400 or 200-500/5.6 IS)
I am in the same boat as well. I’m looking for a good entry-mid level DLSR to start out with. I’ve pretty much got my sights set on the Rebel XSi but I have a really bad feeling that as soon as I buy it there will be a new version and I could have saved tons of money. :(
I was hoping for a 35 f/1.4 update so I could get a deal on the original :D
+2
agreed
When they announce a new SLR you can expect the price on the old one not to drop immediately. The price on the XSi has already fallen a lot from its original msrp. The XRi (whatever it’s called) will be significantly more expensive at launch. So by buying an XSi now you will only be giving up maybe 5% of the savings you could have had upon the release of a new model, but you will save yourself the bank robbing price of a brand new model that gets replaced once a year and whose price drops like a rock within the first 6 months of its release.
I think so.
Canon has made the pros happy with the 2 new TS lenses. And it has made the masses happy with a bunch of new P&S cameras. The rest of us caught in the middle were left empty handed.
Owned the camera. Sold it.
Over-rated piece of crap.
What Camera do you use now Adam?
They usually announce new lenses with the new DSLR’s. We may see some of this stuff by June.
Rumours… typical for a dude named Nigel…. ;)
Unfortunately, I guess that’s a sign of the times. What’s the point of cranking out all this great stuff when nobody’s going to buy it?
Back to the original 5D
IQ is as good as the newer model. I see barely any difference in Raw, and no serious shooter, bar wedding and sports togs use Jpeg, where the difference lies (VERY aggressive noise reduction).
If you expose the 5D right, it’s high ISO is every bit as good as the Mk II. Don’t be fooled by amateur forum postings and Canon’s marketing junk.
And it’s AF system is the same, bar the new one’s ability to lock on a bit better in lower light.
AI Servo is still utterly rubbish and the “focus/recompose” works even less because some idiot at Canon decided 21mp was a good idea.
Sell them at Fred Miranda site….see you there..
+1 nikon didnt beat canon in terms of I.Q. even the focus points of canon is less than what nikon is offering they perform faster than nikon. but canon can leap frog the competitors if they upgrade there AF, many (maybe all) DSLR user will switch to Canon if they do that.
i think canon will release 2000D before the 500D. 500D will be release along with or a month earlier than 60D (50D successor) after Nikon D400 released.
nikon rumors always better
a 60d or 7d is what i’m going to hold out for. if the offerings on that aren’t very good i might end up with the 5d mkI
I read Nikon Rumors as well. Its interesting to note that the Nikon users are whining just as much as Canon users. I also enjoy Nikon Watch rumors, it is interesting and sometimes takes a different slant on things.
I have and have had both brands of Cameras and lenses, they both have their strong points and weak points.
I still will occasionally buy a used Nikon lens or SLR occasionally just to get the lens. I can use the D lenses and many AIs lenses on both Nikon and Canon cameras, but where I need fast autofocus, there is a much larger choice of Canon lenses available.
as I said – buy a 1DS3 if you want pro af –
I’ve been in that group begging for a digital eos 3 (my last 35mm slr) but I can’t see canon doing it unless they come out with a earth shattering 1ds4 that they can comfortably charge 8gs for and then have a 1d4 for sports and an eos 3 for pros that want a light weight camera with a pro AF system…
As for overrated – I think the camera is just what it should be. A better 5D at 700 dollars less than the original when it came out…factor in inflation and the price difference is even greater…
When using the AF with either the 580ex 2 or an ste2 the thing has had NO problems locking in absolute darkness…
not sure what the MP has to do with focus/recompose AF but I have had NO problems shooting in poopy situations…
More MP means you tend to see errors in focus more clearly, same goes for camera shake, shoddy filters, etc. It just means a slight change to shooting style.
I’ve stopped trying to get framing exact in camera, just go a bit wider, make sure a focus point is in the right place and then crop from a ridiculous 21MP image.
No new Rebel…disappointing
Why should I buy a 1Ds III?
You fall into that category of people who blindy accept that the way things are is the right way.
No. I disagree.
One company is giving it’s shooters what they want right now, and it’s not Canon.
But Canon have a lot of sheep in it’s flock who are too lazy to ask for more.
If you’re all new in DSLR, why don’t you buy the 1000D instead the 450D or waiting the 470/500D ??
I mean, you will take some great pictures with the 1000D. Advice, put your money for better lenses, that à450D with a 18-55 IS, even that lens is a lot better than the simple and previous 18-55 with no stab..
As i said, buy a 1000D or a 450D with the money you saved for a 500D, buy a good lens!
Cheers :)
Yeah but I own a 450D and I have no problem with front and back focus. My dealer told that he didn’t heard about that before. He sold thousand of 450D and I personally know him so..
Next, stop judging what you read on the internet.. An unhappy customer will always make much noise than a happy customer. By the way, every DSLR has problems, canon, nikon, sony etc…
And if you trust hard what you read on the internet and you’re a noob, so yeah buy a panasonic G1, or maybe it will be to much for you, i read it has some problem too :p
I don’t think canon will all it 500D because this appellation already exists.. a 470D I guess
Of course!! everybrand, every dslr has problems so.. Canon, nikon, sony, pentax.. When ppl switch, they just find another annoying stuff :)
Why?? did you already have more than 50.000 clicks with a 1000D or a 450D?
Trust, you’ll be able to do everything with a 450D.. I own one, with some great lenses like EF-S 10-22 USM, EF 17*40 F/4 L USM, 70-200 f/2.8 L USM … and I do everything with it, landscapes, portraits, macro, archi, HDR…
Of a photograph :
50 % is from the photographer
40 % is from the lens
10 % is from the camera
PS: When i was a big noob, I saved all I had for a great body like a 5D, but I had poor lenses. A good lens costs hundred of $ so saved for it instead for a body. When you shoot, you don’t think about your camera, you think about the photograph you are gonna take!
I know noobs ppl who own professional stuff and my 7 years old cousin take 100 times better photographs with a 100$ camera than them all..
It’s just a camera. There’s more thing to worry about.
If your cousin’s shots are 100 times better using a camera that is worse than those owned by the “noobs”, I think your percentages are off.
The equipment’s contribution to the quality of the photograph varies a lot depending on what you are shooting. There are many situations were the camera and lens contributes very little at all to the shot and the only distinguishing factor is the photographer.
Many of the greatest photographs in history would not be considered technically any better than what you can take today on a cheap camera phone. Even where the equipment is an important factor in getting a shot, it is still the photographer who made the decision to use the right equipment at the right time. Anyone can get lucky, but most of the time it is the photographer that makes 90%+ of the difference.
Good photographs tell a story. Does the quality of the paper and ink contribute 50% to a good novel? Maybe for an illuminated manuscript you might grant the choice of materials a few percent, but most of the time it is the storyteller that matters.
I gave so much % for each to show how the camera is not that important, for me it’s 90 % from the photographer, but ppl wont understand that.
A good photograph could be taken by anyone anytime in any situation. Of course a pro would know a lot more about photographing than a beginner, but everyone has a change to take beautiful shots with crappy cameras. Don’t even need a DSLR, an old film camera is really good..
A good and expensive camera could help on some situations, like better and faster AF, bigger camera, heavier, easy to hold etc.. But it’s really not that important, it’s just a material questions, just depending me and my poor experience.
Ppl of any age could take some amazing pictures because they didn’t took any photographs courses and they put the original side first not thinking of the 1/3 rule, how the light shows the subject or anything like that.
I just don’t get it. Why did everyone expect a 500D now? Canon has with a very few exceptions upgraded the xxxD and xxD lines with 18 months intervals, which mean a 500D sometime in late summer early fall. Of course nothing prevents them from upgrading earlier, but the big surprise would be if it came out now. Besides, the 450D is still the best in it’s class and that’s hardly a good reason for Canon to move an upgrade forward.
Personally I would not be happy with a camera that required a shooting style with cropping as a routine component of the post process. Except under rare circumstances I prefer to use the whole shot.
Just like Cartier-Bresson, but in my case it’s because I’m lazy, not good! :)
OTOH, if Canon don’t crank out good stuff no one CAN buy it! Realistically though, whatever Canon did they’d likely not please everyone. But just something out of the ordinary (other than TS lenses that won’t see action outside a niche) would’ve been nice. Lot’s more P&S, even waterproof ones, just isn’t something to make the blood race, is it?
Do you think there will be some additional announcemnts for the expo in Japan later on?
Well for what it’s worth, I love this website and I love your attitude. Keep it up!
or get a 40D or used 5d. Both are better (more “professional options”) than the xxxD cameras.
VERY disappointing… and the poor folks at the Canon booth will only be able to give us the line “… that’s what Canon JP decided to launch…”.
The only thing I’m hoping now is that they are “perfecting” the 1D replacement during this time… I’ll be checking out the Nikon booth for the first time ever…
Very disappointed…….
SPAM, I don’t think it’s so much that they’re off their “normal” schedule… but more that they SHOULD launch these new things to shake up the market, give us SOMETHING to get excited about… this is two years in a row no “big” announcement for Canon at PMA… are they making a statement that PMA isn’t important for them? They’re certainly saying that to me.
The only thing all the brands have in common is whiners :)
Well, maybe not Leica. But I haven’t checked those forums.
I was a little disappointed some new lenses didn’t come out, but then when you look at how expensive some of the Nikon lenses are in comparison, I suspect I’d rather save the difference and use current lenses than spend a ton more to get them here a little faster.
Of course if I only had 6 months to live I’d think differently. Actually if that were true I probably wouldn’t be taking pictures at all. Wow I just blew my mind.
WHEN WOULD CANON RELEASE A 3D OR FULL FRAME DSLR WITH FULL MANUAL CONTROL IN MOVIE MODE?
THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE REQUESTING THAT…
IF CANON DOESN’T, I HOPE NIKON DOES IT, SO CANON WOULD FEEL PRESSURE TO FOLLOW…
Haha. If I had 6 months to live I would be taking pictures right now and not posting on this board (no offense CR.. this is a fun site).
ya that’s true. I just hope Canon is saving their money and cranking out a 24-70 f/2 and a 100-400 f/4. That’ll get my blood racing. They must have had those TS lenses in development for a while because it seems like an odd time to bring out such a niche product when there’s so much quality competition coming from other areas.
just picked up a 5D from Henry’s on ebay…. a hair over 1100 got it shipped to the US with all original accessories and got me a 2 year warranty.. from the serial number it looks like an 07/08 camera and from the pictures its in excellent condition (and the warranty is there to back it up :D )…. didn’t think I’d be leaving crop factor this soon but at these prices… good time to jump into a nice, lightly used camera unless there is something you really want in one of the new models (frankly I tried a 50D and that was sold and the older 5D is now on the way… )
yea…F2 and F4 zooms… no thanks…. did you see the prices on those TS-E lenses? I bet they are sweet but how many are going to bite at those prices… the 100-400/4 will be huge and cost as much as the nikon 200-400/4 ….that’s simply a different product category then the current 100-400… why not make it a 200-500/5.6… a bit more expensive than the current lens but still reasonabl ish …. now for the 24-70/2 I wish but I also have to wonder how much that is going to set you back…
I’m curious what’s going on with the 35mm f/2. It’s back-ordered everywhere I’ve checked, other than amazon, where they have a whopping 2 in stock. For those of us on a budget, this would be a nice one to have, but not if they’re no longer being made!
What do you all think – update, or just slow manufacturing?
So… one company is giving it’s shooters what they want right now and it’s not Canon but you went back to your old 5D? Doesn’t that make you part of the lazy flock? Who is the one company anyways?
Checking the Nikon blogs shows a lot of people whining about their choice of equipment too…
Hehe I was talking about fantasy I guess… that f/2 would be twice as heavy as the 2.8 probably. But I would sit here and figure out a way to buy one!
the reason i said to buy a 1DS3 is that you complained about AF speed…
As for me falling blindly – I sold my 1D2 and bought a d700 with 24-70 2.8 while i waited to see what the 5D2 would be…
I now shoot the 5D2 with my L glass and I’m quite happy…quite
And as heavybarrel stated – check out the nikon boards and they complain constantly as well..just like you
canon is my “favourite” in all way.. i want to buy my first DSRL canon 450d but nikon d90 sounds good.
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Will Canon ever release a full-frame camera that can shoot above 5fps???
Nikon already has 2. The switch to Nikon seems reasonable for a lot of people now.
D3X review up on dpreview.com.
Interesting they complain the focus points are concentrated in the center of the frame. I remember people complaining about the 5D2 cited Nikon as being better for this.
Also to note on this $8,000 camera, 5fps (for full frame), no dust removal system and high ISO performance not quite up the 5D2.
It is a pitty that there is no new lens 100-400.
But look on the bright site…. In the Netherlands the pricelist is renewed and there is still a 100-400 4.0 L IS USM on there!!!!!!! So hopefully it will arrive in the near near future.
Link: http://www.canon.nl/Images/Canon%20CCI%20advies%20prijslijst%20februari%202009_tcm16-621024.pdf