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Fisheye Fun
I'm told Canon has been developing an EF-S fisheye for the last couple of years. It'll be 8mm. We could possibly see the lens in the next few months.
Announcing a niche lens along with more mainstream stuff probably makes a lot of sense. What that mainstream stuff is, remains to be seen.
What about the 15mm?
From the same source, there is no plans to replace the EF 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye.
cr
I want to be the FIRST to get one.
Hope it’s not going to be too pricey.
So, does that mean the 70-200 II is not a mainstream lens?
and 8mm EF-S fisheye would be neat…not something I’d use, but still neat.
Looking for EF L one.
Version II 45 and 90 TS-E’s would be nice, and a 35 TS-E would consolidate Canon’s (17 and 24 TS-E) gains in the architectural arena.
Bummer!
I have full frame so bad news for me. I am in the market for a fisheye, I guess I should go ahead and buy the 20 year old design in the 15mm.
Useless novelty lens, make it a standard 8mm wide one and it would outsell the fisheye by perhaps even hundreds to one. I cannot believe that Canon would waste time and resources on such a lens.
Mainstream: 35L update?
70-200L II has already been released, I believe CR guy is talking about upcoming new releases
The 8mm FF fisheye projects a circle in the center of the sensor, you basically waste 56% of your sensor. That’s quite a bit more niche than an EF-S 8mm fisheye. Specially considering that APS-C sensor don’t appreciate the most marked of the fisheye effects.
Very odd. I expected the 1Ds4 to be announced together with a bunch of full frame lenses.
Does this mean the EF-S 8 mm fisheye is gonna be released alongside a 60D?
he meant rectiliner…
That’s lovely but I was not talking about FF EF lens but EF-S one, by “standard 8mm wine” I meant non-fisheye.
fisheye? a normal ultra wide would have been better. At least sigma gets it, too bad they suck at making it most of the time.
Mainstream…. 24-70L IS :-) 12-24L f4 how bout a new 50mm 1.4 or 30mm…
I agree with all your suggestions.
– 12-24 f/4L
– 24-70 f/2.8L IS
– 50 f/1.4 USM II (ring USM)
– 35 f/2 USM II (ring USM)
These are more sensible choices.
no, I want to be the first one..!
I traded my Sigma 8mm to get a 50D.. but then Sigma raised it price and Canon announced the 7D.. what the heck.. had I kept my fisheye, I could’ve traded it for a 7D today and still have made some $$$.. just my luck.. *sigh*
that fisheye was sharp and fun.. now the thought of having a Canon 8mm just makes my mouth water.. *drool*
there is NO 60D..!
why couldn’t you get that in your head..?!
50D is the last of the xxD models..
^sheez^
haven’t had the chance to try a Sigma ultrawide normal lens.. but I’ve tried the 8mm fisheye on a 40D.. it’s quite nice and fun to use.. of course people would comment on the CA and the black corners, but hey wachu gonna do, it’s a fisheye, it’s supposed to be distorted..
anyway..
that new 8-16 ultrawide Sigma is releasing is quite fascinating.. might try it out and compare it to the Canon 10-22 which I fancy very much..
hoping for fast EF-S Primes …
Those would be awesome choices!! All!
They will never be made. Any.
Isn’t 8mm a strange length? I guess it should be around 9-10mm if rectangular and approx. 4mm if circular on the 1.6x APS-C format? Or can you do a rectangular 8mm on APS-C? I haven’t done any scientific calculations, but Sigma got a 10mm fisheye giving 180 degress angle on a 1.5x APS-C sensor, so I’m gessing 8mm is too short?
There WILL be a 60D. One rumor to the contrary here does not mean Canon is so foolish as to abandon an entire price point that they OWN at the moment.
What’s the point of a fast EF-S prime??? You’re better off with an EF prime on a crop sensor as the sensor takes light from the centre of the lens… which is the sharpest!
If a 50mm prime is too long on a crop body… get a 35mm.
An 8mm APS-C fisheye does make sense, but it is not anywhere on my shopping list.
Update the mid-range FF wideangle primes, please… And a new 500mm f/4, please…
It is 20% shorter than the wide end of the 10-22mm, so that sounds about right. The 15mm FF is 25% shorter than the 20mm wide angle, and 12% shorter than the 17-40mm at the wide end.
If the image field is rectangular or fisheye-distorted depends on the way the lenses are arranged more than the focal length, although I have to admit that I don’t understand the details.
Ditto on getting a new 50mm f/1.4. Now that Sigma has raised the bar, Canon needs to update theirs.
And how about an updated 100-400mm while we’re at it? :)
Canon should only make a 12-24mm if they can match the quality of Nikon’s.
An updated 35mm would also be nice.
The Tokina 10-17 Fisheye works fine. No need for latecoming Canon stuff…
an 8 mm fisheye lens would be a very good seller right now: lots and lots of people buy samyang 8mm (no AF) for HDSLR video shooting, but it’s that great for stills – canon could provide for both I hope.
If non of the above will get made at least the 30mm should. Can’t let sigma have all the fun…
They’d be cheaper, I guess.
Pretty much every pro surf/skate/snow shooter use fisheye lens regularly. At the moment the popular option is the Tokina. A proper Canon would be awesome. Bring us back to the 15mm quality we loved on the film bodies…
Proper 180 coverage not 167 is what we want!
probably around $500-700
14-24
just get a sigma 30mm 1.4 and 85mm 1.4
Canon EF-S 30/1.4 USM would rock my world :) That is, if it’s better on borders and corners than Sigma of course :)
35/2 is old as hell and 35/1.4L is not in the reach of most amateurs. EF-S 30/1.4 USM or EF-S 35/1.8 USM would please many APS-C shooters who now have to look to third parties for such lenses…
You don’t need much AF on this focal lenght anyway. Hyperfocal distance is very short in here, especially with narrower aperture.
*sadpanda*
i’d like to see a new FF fisheye with newest technology
you should work for Canon
Is’t an 8mm fisheye less than full frame natively?
Except that the Nikon is a 14-24mm and not a 12-24mm, gaining only 2mm over the current Canon 16-35IIL but loosing front filter options
You should. Apart from the rather fiddly construction and autofocus it’s a very nice lens.
but i love the 24mm f1.4. I want that compatible lens on crop body. EF-S 15mm f1.4 maybe …
at 35mm you’ll get 50mm compatible … it’s fine
but no fast wide like 24mm f1.4L for EF-S .. just love it …
Not sure if it has been mentioned here yet, but the Canon 15mm Fisheye is the only lens in the current line-up that uses an older non-USM motor. The focusing is audible on this lens.
Even still, the results are outstanding. I have this lens and if you’ve ever used it, you’ll know what I mean. Its not perfect, but I can’t see updating it now unless its simply a side-note tacked on to much larger announcements.
agreed …
If they’re willing to an EF-S fisheye, maybe that improves prospects for an EF-S ~30mm f/1.8, which I imagine would sell much better…alas, I shan’t get my hopes up.
Canon spent 2 years developing this lens?!? Hows about an EF-S prime normal lens, a faster UWA zoom, or a constant f/2 standard zoom? Those who really care about fishies would be using an FF cam by now or the cheapskates would be using any of the gazillion distortion programs readily available.
An 8mm UWA prime would have been more interesting for the great unwashed masses. Canon wake up and build lenses that the greater majority really need more, or at least update the older ones.
The sigma 30mm is a great lens for APS-C cameras.
Ditto
Fisheye lenses are very useful for shooting spherical panoramas.
you’re right, i came back from an exhibition of some really cool surf shots and most were taken with a fish eye lens.
I wish canon would come out with in body IS. it’d be great for video :P
I agree canon really doesn’t listen enough…
nikon have stated they want to focus more on customers and many other companies are doing the same thing.
I feel canon has been number 1 for too long and are way to arrogant!
C’mon, you ignorant fools!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A specialty lens may not make sense for most people to *buy*, but as a rental it can be a godsend. If you don’t have a favorite gear rental shop, find a local one or rent-by-mail before your next vacation, wedding, or big studio shoot. A fisheye for your second body (which for many of us is a crop body, right?) may offer you a way out of an otherwise missed opportunity to get a shot.
I just got in for my 5D2. I was pleasantly surprised at how super sharp it is. Wide open the center is as sharp as any lens I own (including the 135 f/2). And stopped down to 5.6, the corners are very good.
Tokina has done quite well with its 10-17mm EFS-S fisheye. A lot of underwater shooters using Canons, including full frame cameras like the 5D, love that lens and rarely use anything else for wide angle work. It makes sense that Canon wants a piece of the action. If it’s comparably priced ($550) and faster than the Tokina, it could do very well.
Why can’t you get in your head that no one knows? Or do you secretly know but only tell us in forums?
It’d be a little weird if they’d stop the xxD line without saying anything. But if they stop it, it’s up to them. Just please stop saying things you and probably most of us on CR don’t know..
So just because someone states they will focus on customers, they are good? It’s marketing dude..Plus, if Canon or any other company wouldn’t focus on their customers, they’d be gone. So I don’t know how can anyone be ignorant here, if they’d be, their income wouldn’t be that big.
I’m not a fan boy, but I think Canon is doing great. So is Nikon.
EF-S?! I AM NOT WAITING FOR STUPID EF-S LENSES
sigma has the fisheye market in its fishy handy
canon should build a 400 5,6L IS and a 24-70 IS!
Agreed. I was thinking about purchasing the current the 35mm and 50mm, but both of then badly need an upgrade.
The EF 35mm f/2 may be “old as hell”, but it still takes a nice photo and doesn’t cost too much.
I can’t see Canon doing an EF-S 35mm f/1.8 unless it is a real “plastic fantastic” job for the price of the nifty fifty. But the nifty fifty kinda fills the role of the entry-level prime, even if it is a bit long on APS-C.
Which “current line-up” would that be?
I have been waiting to see if a new fisheye lens is coming out. The 8mm isn’t going to help on my 5DII since you can’t use EF-S lenes on it. Looks like I will be purchasing the 15mm 2.8. Thanks for the info since I have been sitting on this purchase for awhile.
Lisa
http://www.cranestudioimaging.com
8mm Fisheye means 180 degree horizontal angle with a 1.6x crop sensor. This is one of the most useful lenses for panorama photography I can think of. Only a small amount of the sensor surface is “wasted”. A fisheye lens is not “distorted”, it just uses a different kind of projection. On the contrary a rectilinear lens of this focal length would lead to high distortions since the horizontal axis is tangent scaled. A rectilinear 8mm lens would have a diagonal angle of 120 degrees which is quite extreme for rectilinear projection. If for some reason you want to change the fisheye perspective you could use appropriate software.
My 15mm is very good. Autofocus is not even needed, its in focus from 3 ft to infinity, so the AF only moves a tiny amount and just for very close distances.
What price point? Its getting to be common with discounts and all for 7D’s to go for $1300-$1350. That was the price for the 50D.
I don’t need a $800 50mm lens. I’d rather have one for $350 with autofocus that works, in fact, I have two.
Every time canon updates a lens, the price doubles. you might get more than you wished for.
You won’t be disappointed. The build quality is so-so. But the optics are excellent.
8mm fisheye would be a fun lens, let’s hope for a fun price
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Badges!! we don’t need no stinking badges
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BTW have you seen this, AF-S NIKKOR 16-35mm f/4G ED VR, awide angle with stabilization. http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Nikon/Product/Camera-Lenses/2182/AF-S-NIKKOR-16-35mm-f%252F4G-ED-VR.html
Nikon sure is turning out some nice lenses.
You would have to fight me for first in line for this lens. :-) :-)
Ain’t gonna happen though.
I’d pay $700.00 – $800.00 for EF-S primes. 22mm 1.8, 30mm 1.8 and 40mm 1.8. Just give me the same quality as a 200 2.8.
More than a few pros shooting crop cameras from Canon, Nikon and even Pentax.
There’s an $800 price difference between a 7D and a T2i (550D). Discounts might close that gap a little, but it’s still quite a gulf.
Sigma’s new 50mm has an MSRP of $500. What makes you think Canon’s would be $800? If I had to buy a 50mm today, I’d probably go with the Sigma over Canon’s current offering.
The 60D is a lie. The 7D is the new 60D, plus boosted price.
I think you would be the last of a thousands I’d have to fight to get it :)
Still, I’d love EF-S 35/1.8 USM at least. I envy my friend who has Nikkor AF-S 35/1.8 DX, he envies me my EF 85/1.8 USM, tough call :)
Just looked it up – you’re right. There are more lenses that use the AFD system, all equally ancient. The 28mm F/2.8, 35mm F/2, 135mm Softfocus and 50mm compact macro.
Lets see updates to all of these :) well, except maybe the softfocus. Not terribly useful these days.
I wonder why so many people are so after fisheye lenses. I find the effect gets old pretty soon, andshouldn’t a rectlinear 8mm lens (the new Sigma 8-16 comes to mind) capture the same angle of view? The rest can be done in PP.
So, if Mr. Canon reads this: Please don’t waste precious R&D resources on a fisheye lens. kTHX. :-)
wow this is a good change for canon user to have EF-S for fisheye. hope this will be more better and nicer. i can’t wait for this lens to come out.
So buy the 24 1.4? It has more uses than an EF-S and thus higher resale value.
You’re not going to keep a crop body forever.
And you know this how? Canon has not announced that they’ve discontinued the line. Don’t you think they would if they had?
Oops, you’re right. I was thinking of Nikon’s excellent 14-24mm. But as the other poster pointed out, they do have a 12-24mm, too. I would like to see Canon make a match for Nikon’s 14-24mm. I think CR posted a patent a while back for one, so it might be in the works.
Isn’t Canon currently in an Odd Model numbering cycle? So, the next xxD might get called a 55D or a 70D. So there might not be a 60D, but there could be an xxD of some sort.
Nikon managed it quite well for a decent price. Canon lenses are usually even cheaper, so why not? :)
That’s what I first thought when the 7D came out. Though there was mention by Canon, if I remember correctly, that it wasn’t a replacement for the 50D. Infact take a look at this link, at about the 0:49minute mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p4DekaFMxI
7D is a new Line and not a direct replacement for any camera designed to sit between the 50D and the 5DmkII
But we’ll not really know until Canon release a new camera.
I think the 7D has the potential to become a full frame camera in the future due to the xD numbering system. At a lower price point than the 5D line. I was actually quite disappointed that the 7D wasn’t released with a SS sensor. And would already be owning one if it was.
What I’d like to see is Canon buying Sigma to gain Foveon’s X3 sensor technology and gain access to their lens patents. But I doubt that would happen. Though I would love to see Canon produce a FF X3 sensor. This is getting off topic though.
sigma 8-16 will have slightly less field of view than the fish eye. It is because fish eye lenses are designed with intentional distortion so to include massive field of view.
Try to compare the canon 14 mm 2.8 with the 15 mm fish eye… the fish eye seems wider. Check out the digital picture. com :p
It is an EF-S lens it will cost much less.
Canon’s 35mm f/2 has two things going for it that the Nikon 35mm f/2 does not: it is considerably cheaper and it can autofocus on any camera body. The Nikon lens price left more room to introduce a DX lens below it. The existing FX lens did not autofocus on the entry-level Nikon camera bodies. There just isn’t the same need for a Canon lens…unless it is spectacularly cheap, in which case it will be welcome.
Couldn’t agree more with the the development of the normal/FF lenses.
400 5.6L IS & 50 1.4 MK2 urgently needed. A normal range zoom f/2.8L with IS would be a huge seller!
i was hoping for a super wide primary lens like 14mmL markIII-so it could stop all the bragging about 14-24 i being hearing…so annoying
Except when the darn thing break when you are on vacation in Greece. Focus ring locked up on me, it was under warranty but still missed out. Lots of CA with the Tokina and it never really gets sharp. Canon can do much better.
rectiliner is “non-fisheye” you tool.
and the dude above wasent talking about EF he was talking about EF-S.
cause there are no ultra wide primes for crop sensor cameras
Mine conked out on me in Bali, about one month out of the box. Sent it back for repair to the aperture, then sold it. It’s a great lens but yeah, lots of QA issues. I think it performs better underwater; I barely used it on land.
The 14mm MarkII is one of Canon’s finest. There is no need for another prime lens in that range.
Was talking to a rep from Lee Filters at the recent Focus show. They have a giant filter unit for the Nikon 14-24mm zoom. An adapter ring fits around the front of the lens, the filter holder fits this and supports 150mm filters. Not completely new but they will have a different adapter ring for the forthcoming Canon equivalent.
i agree it is a very good lens and i want to get one if i could, but there are some(by a not small number) saying 14-24 zoom lens is better than a pro-grade prime lens like 14mmL II…which hearing a pro-grade zoom is better than a pro-grade prime is kind of annoying for me…
also by better i mean better in term of image quality