The Canon EOS M5 Mark II and Canon EOS M6 Mark II are on the way [CR1]

Hector1970 · Jul 24, 2019

Hmm Project Nacho. Sounds tasty
Slim maybe.
Well Canon are still investing in the M Series. It’s a series that seemed a dead end to me but must be doing well enough for Canon to give it more support with new cameras.
It’s small and compact and well loved by users.

Canon Rumors Guy · Jul 24, 2019

Hector1970 said:
Hmm Project Nacho. Sounds tasty
Slim maybe.
Well Canon are still investing in the M Series. It’s a series that seemed a dead end to me but must be doing well enough for Canon to give it more support with new cameras.
It’s small and compact and well loved by users.

I think the EOS M lineup could become a regional system. For a while, a few EF-M lenses weren't available in North America.

michi · Jul 24, 2019

I'm currently selling my M6. The one thing that drives me insane is the slow CPU. Switching between some functions, especially between image review and back is painfully slow. As is AF still. I've lost too many images waiting for the camera and it's not like I am a sports or action photographer. I'm over it. Somehow I don't have faith that the Mark II will fix things. I would be happy to be surprised though as I am keeping my lenses for now, just in case.

Mr Majestyk · Jul 24, 2019

The fact Sigma will release lenses in M mount gives you confidence it's not going anywhere soon.

koenkooi · Jul 24, 2019

michi said:
I'm currently selling my M6. The one thing that drives me insane is the slow CPU. Switching between some functions, especially between image review and back is painfully slow. As is AF still. I've lost too many images waiting for the camera and it's not like I am a sports or action photographer. I'm over it. Somehow I don't have faith that the Mark II will fix things. I would be happy to be surprised though as I am keeping my lenses for now, just in case.

What surprised me is that the same internal SoC, Digic 8, the RP feels a lot more responsive in the menus and handling than the m50. I have both in the 'classic' mode without the pretty illustrations and help text.

12Broncos · Jul 24, 2019

Patiently waiting.

privatebydesign · Jul 24, 2019

michi said:
I'm currently selling my M6. The one thing that drives me insane is the slow CPU. Switching between some functions, especially between image review and back is painfully slow. As is AF still. I've lost too many images waiting for the camera and it's not like I am a sports or action photographer. I'm over it. Somehow I don't have faith that the Mark II will fix things. I would be happy to be surprised though as I am keeping my lenses for now, just in case.

I am, and I'm looking forwards to taking a very close look at the M5 II, once the top of the line M gets full EOS firmware it will get much speedier. Once it gets quicker AF and image review it will be an amazing sleeper APS-C camera making a very capable compliment to an EF or RF system.

I recently got the M5 after having the original M since release, the 18-150 is a very high quality general use lens pared with the 22 f2 I am very very happy.

koenkooi · Jul 24, 2019

I really wish Canon would release a new M with the same body as the original M. I have a Richard Franiec grip on mine which makes it near perfect. I'd settle for an M6 style body, but not with an EVF bulge.
The M10/M100 don't work for me since they lack a hot-shoe. The EL-100 or 270EX-II do a great job as fill flash when using the EF-M.

koenkooi · Jul 24, 2019

privatebydesign said:
I am, and I'm looking forwards to taking a very close look at the M5 II, once the top of the line M gets full EOS firmware it will get much speedier. Once it gets quicker AF and image review it will be an amazing sleeper APS-C camera making a very capable compliment to an EF or RF system.
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I also hope they move the trash button away from the d-pad to the bottom right, where it is on the RP. It would make quickly deleting pictures from bursts less tedious.
Another feature from the RP that I'd like to see is that the magnify button in playback can zoom in on the focus point, not zoom out to show 4 pictures like it currently does. It's a great way to verify eye-AF did its thing and check if you didn't make the camera go back to 1/60th.

andrei1989 · Jul 24, 2019

any news on lenses? something similar to what fuji just launched, 16-80 f4, and what sony had for many years, 16-70 f4
the M5 body currently works great for me and i wouldn't upgrade

BillB · Jul 24, 2019

Mr Majestyk said:
The fact Sigma will release lenses in M mount gives you confidence it's not going anywhere soon.

It will be interesting to see how many Sigma EF-M primes get bought. They do complement slow zooms very nicely. Between Canon and Sigma, there will be a fair number of zooms to choose from.

neuroanatomist · Jul 24, 2019

Hector1970 said:
Hmm Project Nacho. Sounds tasty

I wondered about the authenticity of the ‘code name’, but maybe nachos are a thing in Japan. They have nacho-flavored Pringles!

slclick · Jul 24, 2019

Hmm, Canon's E-X3? I'd be fine with that form factor. Just lose the Powershot menus

BillB · Jul 24, 2019

privatebydesign said:
I am, and I'm looking forwards to taking a very close look at the M5 II, once the top of the line M gets full EOS firmware it will get much speedier. Once it gets quicker AF and image review it will be an amazing sleeper APS-C camera making a very capable compliment to an EF or RF system.

I recently got the M5 after having the original M since release, the 18-150 is a very high quality general use lens pared with the 22 f2 I am very very happy.

Hmmm. Full EOS firmware. Might that be part of a rational for an RFmount aps-c camera?

zonoskar · Jul 24, 2019

M6 with pop-up EVF and M5 with fixed EVF and hotshoe. I hope the rest will be identical (so also touch-n-drag focus for M6-II now).

Josh Leavitt · Jul 24, 2019

zonoskar said:
M6 with pop-up EVF and M5 with fixed EVF and hotshoe. I hope the rest will be identical (so also touch-n-drag focus for M6-II now).

My thoughts exactly. I'm really hoping the M6 II will employ the same pop-up EVF that the G5 X II is using. If it was also designed to allow for an attachable magnifier (say a x1.25), then it would be even more useful. But I could make do with just a pop-up EVF.

Stephenmreyes · Jul 24, 2019

Will they remove 24fps?!

privatebydesign · Jul 24, 2019

BillB said:
Hmmm. Full EOS firmware. Might that be part of a rational for an RFmount aps-c camera?

I don't see that as likely. Given the size weight and quality of the RF lenses to date I think Canon's intent is to make the R line a high quality higher cost ff system, I'd expect them to leave APS-C to the M and the generally low cost slower zooms much better suited to a more general audience and market.

The lines between the EF and EF-s market became very grey, at this point the differences between the EF-M and RF are very apparent to even the most basic of consumers. Why muddy the waters with an RF-S series of bodies and lenses when I'd think, in this shrinking camera market, R&D is best focused on the actual RF line and possibly a couple more complimentary EF-M lenses to keep people like me happy with our $1,000 bodies.