I think it's safe to say there hasn't been a lot of the normal hype around Canon since late last year with the release of the EOS R6 Mark II. We have seen some cool products since, but not really the things that have historically driven Canonites into a frenzy.

It seems Nikon has had the momentum over the last 6 months, which has been great, they definitely needed it. They were a company in financial stress only a few short years ago.

Sony has been relatively quiet as well, though I must admit I really don't pay attention to the brand until it's shoved in my face.

Leica has had their Q series bump, a camera series that I love. I really wish other brands would enter the space of a full-frame sensor body with a high-end lens fixed to it. I wish for lots of things that never transpire (RF 28mm f/1.4L USM?!?!), so here we are.

Is this the calm before the proverbial storm? I think it might be. I do not expect anything to be announced in July. I honestly can't remember a July product announcement of any significance (*update, EOS R5, but probably an anomaly due to world events.). The end of August though? I think we'll see a flurry of product announcements all through Q4 and into Q1 of 2024.

At this point, we know what's coming from Canon. It's been written about here numerous times, and at this point, I think it's safe to say most of it is a “logical” next step. The lens roadmap that was initially published back in 2020 has been pretty bang on. There have been a few surprises, and a few mistakes on aperture and whatnot, but I'm happy with how that has turned out.

One area of the Canon line-up that has been difficult and kind of frustrating (which is rare), is Cinema EOS. We have been waiting a long time for the big move to 8K. Canon was late to the 4K party and admitted as much and said that it wouldn't happen with 8K. Although, I wouldn't say 8K has burst into the mainstream yet, but with that is opportunity.

I have had some hints lately that Canon will have major Cinema EOS announcements ahead of IBC in September. Canon has done major product announcements for that show in the past, so it's not just the spring NAB show that this happens.

As for the other parts of the line-up that will definitely excite people, I don't really want to write about any of it until there is something of real value. I want to tighten that up going forward, which isn't great for the ol' “engagement”, but I think there is enough out there hammering you for it.

The products I'm speaking of are the EOS R1, EOS R5 Mark II, wide RF L prime lenses, the autofocus tilt-shifts, and other things that I have already covered.

I don't know if there are still challenges from the last few years, or if there are new challenges. Maybe product development has changed, maybe resources are going into areas like manufacturing, I don't know. Canon is obviously not going to speak on that. They'll just keep doing Canon things and it'll probably keep the accountants happy. Though past success isn't unlimited currency for future success.

So there you have it, maybe someone out there will hit my inbox with something good if they see this post.

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  1. I agree that not everything has been super-exciting - at least not if you prefer prosumer or pro products. But by numbers, 4 cameras and 4 lenses released this time of year is not so bad.
  2. To me, the biggest news is that Canon has finally come to its senses and has licensed the RF mount to outsiders. I am looking forward to seeing what Sigma will produce in its RF line and hope others will soon follow. I feel that Canon has gotten greedy now that it is King of the Mountain, I'm hopping to see more realistically priced 3rd party lenses.
  3. You're referring to, "Sigma will launch 2 RF mount lenses to start [CR1]," where the [CR1] means plausible information but from an unconfirmed source, i.e. possible but cannot be confirmed. I would certainly not say that means Canon has licensed the mount to Sigma, and there are ample reasons for them not to.
  4. I am still with the Canon EOS 1DxIII, a real good camera. There is of course room to improve, I am waiting for... A silent real working global shutter f.e or the much lighter big whites... So the Nikon Z9 is a good marker to orientate. I will not switch, of course, I am waiting. Canon management is late and not well positioned, bringing a R5 with thermal problem has been stupid, but others have been doing similar things. F.e. Nikon initially delivered a viewfinder which did not show the hold screen so I choose the Canon F1 instead with my glasses 50 years ago. Some years ago Nikon has been in real bad financial condition as cited, so taking time is often a needed personal accessory not only in photography. Similar, look to Phase One, it is a real impressive workhorse I do not see any reason to switch to Fuji or the helicopter driven Hasselblad. There will be good steps in the future I foresee, wait-
  5. "As for the other parts of the line-up that will definitely excite people [...] The products I'm speaking of are the EOS R1, EOS R5 Mark II, wide RF L prime lenses, the autofocus tilt-shifts" - these will not excite me; they are far too expensive for my wallet. Not everyone here is a professional photographer or a prosumer with very deep pockets.
  6. I think it’s safe to say there hasn’t been a lot of the normal hype around Canon since late last year with the release of the EOS R6 Mark II. We have seen some cool products since, but not really the things that have historically driven Canonites into a frenzy. It seems Nikon has had

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    "Leica has had their Q series bump, a camera series that I love" Me too! :love:
    "Sony has been relatively quiet as well, though I must admit I really don't pay attention to the brand until it's shoved in my face." Me too! :ROFLMAO:
  7. "The lens roadmap that was initially published back in 2020 has been pretty bang on" - that lens roadmap is very out-of-date. Looking at the RF-S lenses, it lists three lenses as being on the road map. However, the 11-22mm has not been announced, and the 18-45mm and 18-150mm have not only been announced, but have been available for nearly a year. The 55-210mm has also been available for months and isn't even on that list. So not "pretty much bang on" there, really.
  8. Dear Canon.

    lets do this to the Cine lineup and hit a home run.

    FULL FRAME lineup
    R5c - FF RF only (Should have call it the C5)
    C50 - FF Box - RF only Camera (like Komodo but FF/Fx6)
    C500 - FF 8K - RF with user changamble mount EF/PL (FX9 and V-Raptor)
    C700 - FF 8k Studio - RF with user changeable mount EF/PL(more ports like the V-Raptor XL)

    SUPER 35
    C70 - RF only
    C200 - RF with user changamble mount EF/PL S34 Box type (Komodo)
    C300 - RF with user changamble mount EF/PL (Arri Alexa. It won't touch this but will fill that void)

    100's range
    - all have 12g sdi and built in ND
    - addiotnal modules - production, battery etc


    The lineup above cover all areas of production. Will unify the range and sell so many.

    Oh and BUILD AN APP. one that all canon cameras work with and can connect to the same network.
  9. Something I\'d like that no-one\'s mentioned is a 24-105/4 MkII. The one we have just is a serious notch below the 50/1.8, 100/2.8, and 100-500 (see my SHOOTOUT tests in this site\'s lens forum).

    And of course the 35/1.2.

    If they invited Sigma in with mirrorless-designed 14/1.4, 28/1.4, 50/1.4 and maybe 85/1.4, I don\'t think I\'d really need anything else until I die.

    I think the R5 MkII and R1 are actually going to have features ORTHOGONAL to the usual measures of megapixels and frames per second. Canon patented a new type of sensor about 3-4 years ago (mentioned on this site) that could do global shutter, electronic ND, and nearly double the dynamic range. Having studied the patent I think it might also be able to adjust flash power after the fact.

    Another idea is a sharpness-priority that keeps taking photos (or takes a movie) until the scene at the focus point is totally sharp.

    Another idea is a 42x42mm sensor that captures the full image circle, allowing you to take landscape, portrait, or any angle in between without moving the camera, as well as other ratios besides 3:2 without substantially losing pixels, and be able to fix keystone distortion without significantly losing shot area.

    The current IS is so good that I\'m getting the best photos out of for instance the 50/1.8 at I think 1/2 to 1/15 sec, whereas the 24-105 is best at 1/30-1/60. I\'d like to be able to program a P curve PER LENS.

    Finally the only complaint I have about the R5 as it stands is battery life. I\'m wondering if at least we could have a low-power mode that allows the camera to stay on all the time, if not a double-size battery.

    Those specific ideas might not be at all compelling, but should illustrate that there\'s lots of directions to go besides simply LCD size MP, and FPS.
  10. Something I\'d like that no-one\'s mentioned is a 24-105/4 MkII. The one we have just is a serious notch below the 50/1.8, 100/2.8, and 100-500 (see my SHOOTOUT tests in this site\'s lens forum)...
    The EF 24-105/4 Mk II saw little to no optical improvement over the EF Mk I. The RF version is marginally better than the EF II, but only marginally and that is likely due to it being a mirrorless lens design. I would not expect an RF Mk II to be significantly better optically than the Mk I.

    Why? Diminishing returns.

    There are limits to just how much improvement can be reasonably expected given the wide zoom range of the 24-105. My understanding (I could be wrong) is that going from wide angle to telephoto is a lot more challenging than simply extending the range of a telephoto zoom. Making major improvements in the 24-105 (which is actually a very good lens as is) would probably raise the cost well beyond what the market would bear.
  11. I think it’s safe to say there hasn’t been a lot of the normal hype around Canon since late last year with the release of the EOS R6 Mark II. We have seen some cool products since, but not really the things that have historically driven Canonites into a frenzy. It seems Nikon has had

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    I would like to have a wide zoom lens 10-24L and maybe some long affordable mirrors (CAT) lenses added to the line as well. There were some patents made for those lenses in the past.
  12. I think now would be a good time to address the need for RF-S lenses. Although I shoot FF 5DIV, I recently rented an R7. I was pleased with its performance. I do thothat the body is a but small and probably would have benefited from having an intergrated vertical grip due to its smallish size.

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