What do YOU Think is Coming at PMA?

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I want to hear what you folks think is coming for PMA?

Rumors have been few and far between, will that mean PMA won’t bring us too many goodies? I’ll keep trying to find out.

My Predictions based on the best rumors I have will be up shortly.

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  • I want a new 1d4. Would love the 5d2 if it had auto focus that worked when the light levels dropped, I dont understand why you have the best low light camera with an auto focus that cant keep up in those conditions (unless you want to sell more 1 series bodies ;-) )

  • I wish (not predict) there would be a new 100-400 lens, but I have low hopes on it. I have followed the rumors and it looks like some sort of p&s camera will be coming but the general feeling is nothing major for DSLR users. I hope I am wrong ….

  • let’s add some more wishes

    TS-E 24 II with better IQ and tripod mount

    That’s all I am really missing for my 5D II!!

    Other than that I am as happy as can be with the 5D II – maybe in two or three years a 5 D III with even higher resolution – but for this PMA the Tilt & Shift is key to me.

    I 2nd also the 100-400 II wish – would be nice to see the optical quality of the 70-200 f/4.0 L IS and 4stop IS in htis lens

  • All I want is a compact camera (like from the SD line) with true HD video. Been waiting ever since they discontinued the bulkier TX1…

  • I think, a Rebel will come, Canon have to compete with the D90, i’m waiting for the G-MOS (i sold my G9 and i did’nt bought the G10), and perhaps the IXUS/SD xxx with CMOS-Sensor and Full-HD Video …

  • Hej, I hope for surprises in the compact world from canon… was so disappointing from them lately, IXUS 80-85-90 IS are almost the sames, that serie is coming to an end, so needs a change somehow, something new. Same with Powershots A, A480 is boring and A580-590 are not likely to be replaced at all… But is A480 a sign that there could be more old-style PSA ?
    If I was canon, I’d release at least A730 IS, or something merging A6xx with A7xx.

    The underwater model from canon could be a nice surprise, if the picture quality is as good as other canon cams in normal conditions, and can resist sand/water/dust/falling. In fact I was thinking about it for the surprise announce in june last year (which was 1000D SLR). For me, such camera would be a beach/pool cam, doesn’t really matter if it can go 5, 10 or 20 meters. It should anyway do well in low light, so you can get something from under water anyway. As pana released one, canon must answer.

    Also I think another CMOS compact is likely to be released in 2009, but seeing performances of SX1 IS’s, PMA is a bit too early imo.

  • Body: 7D, 16MP FF, cross AF points that cover bigger area, built in GPS, flash commander, SD card

    Lens: new 20mm TS-E, 100-400 replacement (maybe 120-500) sealed and not push-pull zoom

  • I wish a 3D DSLR with Full Manual controls in Movie mode, and improved Movie mode features too, besides improvements in other areas and features (AF, Bracketing, frame rate, etc…)

    But it won’t appear at PMA (who knows even when)

    – My “fast” prediction for PMA:

    1 or 2 lenses

    1 Rebel DSLR

    maybe a flash unit

    maybe some accesories

    (a water proof camera?)

    – Before PMA:

    Printers have been already announced

    It seems that some P&S will be announced

    So, at PMA we could see (“enjoy”) the previous anouncements, plus some few new ones.

    Sad to me… (because I would like much more)

    (I hope I’m wrong, and we can see much more than what I expect)

  • I want:

    1Ds4 (With HDMI for previews and 24FPS video for fun…)

    24-70 f2.8 IS L

    Even better would be a 24-105 f 2.8 IS L

    100-400 f4 IS L (I am dreaming on the aperature…

    Even better, and more possible is a 200-400f4 IS L )

    I would buy these instantly.

    M

  • Maybe with all the other goodies they roll out, perhaps they may release a firmware upgrade to the 5D Mark II to expand the video functions?

  • Now maybe I’m talking out my ass here, but I don’t get all this 24-70 IS talk. First of all, the lens would be even bigger and heavier than it already is. Second, it’s aimed at photo-journalists, i.e. when you need to freeze moderate-speed action without changing lenses all the time. IS won’t help much for that. For low light, you’d use a fast prime.

    Now of course since I’ve posted this, Canon will release one.

  • Well, here is my predictions:

    BODY

    I think a new rebel will come – 500D

    LENS

    TS-E 24mm

    And another one…maybe a tele…

    Flash

    I think its very possible a new flash 2XX EX will come

    P&S

    can’t think of another one that needs a upgrade…

    Good day

    Yitzy

  • A 500D with ACHDC video (albeit 720P) is almost a sure bet. The only reason Canon may not introduce a camera like this would be if they ran into problems in late stages of product development. It would be interesting to see what the Northern America name for this camera would be – XVi?

    A 1D Mk4 is probably necessary due to the pixel density increases we have seen in 50D/5D Mark II. At the same pixel density as 5D Mk II (and therefore at the same high-ISO performance or better), a 1.3 crop 12.5MP 1D Mk4 would be a slam dunk. However, it is also likely that Canon may want to merge the 1D and 1Ds series and offer a full frame solution that can shoot high frame rate in 1.3x crop mode. In this case, we may have to wait until next year. The next gen 1D body may not have video mode due to copyright issues it may create for pro photographers as video rights for pro sports events are typically sold separate from photo rights.

    As for the lenses, it is almost certain that there will be a new wide angle prime. It is hard to predict whether this will be a 35L f/1.4L II or an EF-S 30mm at this time. Many 1.6x crop users are hoping for an EF-S 50-135mm f/2.8, but this may be relatively low priority on Canon’s list. Another upgrade that is likely is a 100-400L IS II with improved IS mechanism. Canon may choose to simply upgrade the IS mechanism and leave the rest of the glass alone for this popular model. With any such upgrade, expect at least a $500 premium over the older model for at least 6-9 months. Many wildlife photographers are drooling over the possibility of a 500mm f/5.6L IS, but knowing Canon, something like this is a very low probability. More likely is a 600mm f/4.0 DO at 2/3 the weight of the existing 600L but >$10K price point.

    For the P&S digicam market, expect to see more models that uses Canon CMOS sensors. The SX-1, which is still not available in the Northern America market is the sole representative digicams with Canon CMOS sensors at this time. Canon invested big $$$$ into a new fab for building small size CMOS sensors for consumer digicams a while back, so we should see the fruits of this investment soon. Note that the only new Canon digicam announced so far this year is the A480 which is a very low end model that uses CCD sensors. Can we expect to see a shift to CMOS sensors for the entire mid-range and high-end range of Canon digicams this year?

    Now lets do the “Dream” part:

    If Canon ever had a historical “one more thing” moment, it would be a new Canon digital rangefinder system (micro-EOS?) with a new 2x crop sensor size (18mm x 12mm) and a new interchangeable lens system (EF-R?). The first body in this system will come with a 10MP 2x crop sensor (about the same pixel pitch as 50D) and will be about the same size and weight as the G10. The first members of the micro-EOS lens family would be the EF-R 25mm f/1.8 prime and the EF-R 12-40mm f/4 IS. Canon would also introduce an adapter that will enable EF telephoto lenses (basically anything that works with Canon teleextenders) to be mounted on micro-EOS bodies.

  • [QUOTE]100-400 f4 IS L (I am dreaming on the aperature…

    Even better, and more possible is a 200-400f4 IS L )

    I would buy these instantly.[/QUOTE]

    Are you sure? A 200-400 f/4L IS would weigh around 7-8lbs and cost more than $6K

  • My WAG’s –

    Lenses:

    100-400 f/4-5.6 L IS II

    17-40 f/4 L II

    300mm f/2.8 II with 4-stop IS, etc.

    24mm TSE

    Some low-grade zoom.

    I actually passed up on buying good used copies this month in faint thoughts of an update for:

    400 f/2.8 II with 4-stop IS, etc.

    I have cash in hand but with that long list above, it doesn’t seem probable. If you are a NDA pro, I’ll buy your test copy…

    If there ever were a 200-400 L, I likely wouldn’t buy it because it would probably be f/4 at widest.

    No 1D body this year.

    Rebel body, yes.

    Little cameras, yes the money-makers…

    I agree with Dorkage on both his points:

    1. regarding 24-70 f/2.8 IS. But I’d buy one. I’d probably even buy a 24-105 f/2.8 if the disortion was less.

    2. Layoffs

    Watch this guy’s words!

  • with cameras like the 5D MKII excelling in low light, the IS might be less important… granted its damn nice as I can tell you from my 17-55/2.8 IS =D Im hoping for something nice on the long end… 100-400/5.6 L IS, with 70-200/4 IS-class optics and 4 stop IS… dont care about push/pull except that it would be nice to have it sealed (which negates push/pull?). Id love a 200-500/5,6 IS with similar optics as above but Im affraid Im dreaming on that one (and that it would just be too expensive if it was made). Everyone screams that they want all these different lenses but you have to consider how much some of these would cost IF they came out… I wonder how many of the “Id buy it right away”s would turn into cries of “that’s just too expensive!” :P

  • that’s what im saying… I hear people talking about how nikon has the 200-400/4 …. well canon has the 400/5.6 prime which makes it way more affordable to get a long telephoto that is sharp compared to nikon (which only goes up to 300/4 before it jumps into huge/expensive territory… and from what I hear the 80-400 zoom isn’t even as good as the canon 100-400). Id like to see the a longer 5.6 or the same 100-400/5.6 but with better optics (or at least get their QC under control so you don’t have to have an epic hunt for an ellusive “sharp” copy) and better IS (and a reasonable price tag for us mortals).

  • I think people are forgetting the question is “what do you THINK”, not “what do you WANT” ;)

    Me?

    I think there’s a new Rebel with video using the 50D sensor.
    Maybe one new lens (Tilt Shift)
    Lots of new P&S cameras

    That’s all.

  • I agree with Adam. There’ll be more P&S (they were all over Photokina, they’ll be all over PMA because they’re cheap’n’easy), a Rebel, and probably T&S. Possibly also water-/shockproof random noise generator.

    That’s the “think”. I aim low to avoid disappointment.

    The “wish” is a replacement to the 1D3. Something to get (even marginally) excited about: 12-16MP; high-res LCD; twin CF; and no video (if it must be, at least include 25fps for those of us in PAL-land) would be a bonus. But I don’t aim too high for the same reason that I do aim low.

  • Although I think it’s too soon, I think we’ll probably see a 500D, which will probably be a 450D with video and DIGIC IV.

    I’d like to see a 50mm f/1.4 Mk. 2, preferably with ring USM and a fixed front element, putting it on par with similar primes in its price bracket (28mm f/1.8, 85mm f/1.8, 100mm f/2).

    @macshark the digital rangefinder thing is actually what I’m most excited about for PMA. Panasonic will probably roll out their roadmapped 20mm f/1.7 prime for the Micro Four Thirds mount and Olympus will hopefully have a release date for their compact Micro Four Thirds camera. I’d like to see Panasonic also announce a compact Micro Four Thirds camera with LX3-like noise control and sensitivity (or better). It would make me incredibly happy to see Canon get behind the Micro Four Thirds mount and although it’s wildly improbable, I think it would probably be a good move for them as it will hopefully garner significant market share in the high end compact camera dept. and wouldn’t adversely damage their SLR system as the lenses made for Micro Four Thirds don’t work with Four Thirds cameras (although vice versa is possible). Although I highly suspect that if Canon were to do something like this they’d probably base it on some new proprietary mount, which is better than nothing, but I’d love to be proved wrong.

  • I would love to see an upgraded 50 1.4 with ring USM. I’m in the need of a 50 and may end up going with the new Sigma if Canon doesn’t release one soon.

  • As a result of financial crisis, I think there will be more investment on the entry-level DSLR market. Maybe a new rebel and some EFs lenses.

    All I want is a small, light and cheap EFs 15mm f/2.8.

  • I would find it very usfull as a Wedding Photographer, if Canon would bring out a lens with a focal lenth of 20-80mm with an Image stabilizer for a FF EOS, as my 24-105 isnt wide enough for every situation, but not far off it!. F2.8 would be nice but not essential. It would mean i wouldnt need to use my 17-40, and could put a 70-200 on my other Camera for more candit stuff. (Dont want to carry more than 2 cameras at a wedding, and changing lenses is a pain in the ass, and somtimes impractical)

    This is just my hope, but i think it will be a 500D as well as some not very exciting bits ‘n’ bobs.

  • A crap load of boring P&S that are near identical with their earlier siblings but with +2MP.

    I also (sadly) expect that other companies will announce more interesting stuff. I’m really intrigued by the Olympus rumors from a few weeks ago, and also what Panasonic will do with their G1 “sequel”.

  • I just don’t think Canon will release a Rebel just yet with video. The 5D2 at $3000 is being scooped by a load of people just for the video. While I would love this in a Rebel (why I’m not getting a 5D2 just yet), I don’t think it will happen for a bit. Either that, or the video will be 720p with no sound, or other limitations.

    I can see the 1D4 coming out though with the focusing issues hanging over Canon’s head (resolved or not). I would imagine they would provide 24p video support for the 1D4, which again would make people want to upgrade up (and not down) for more serious video features. I think once the whole range of pro cameras have video, they’ll start adding it to the Rebels and X0D range.

  • No, I have the 5d but according to all of the canon literature the auto focus stayed the same from Mk1 – Mk2 and I’m very aware how many shots i lose due to its poor low light focusing.

  • Sometime soon, we’ll see a dedicated video camera with a full-frame sensor and EF lenses. NOT a DSLR with video, but the first in a new line of video cameras. This camera will have a full-frame sensor and accept standard EF lenses as well as a new line of power zoom EF video lenses.

  • I wouldn’t be at all suprised to see a 35 1.4L II.

    What I would like is a different matter though. I still want them to release the 1Di. ;-)

  • I think that the 70-200mm f/2.8 Non IS will be discontinued and there will be a new pricing structure for the 70-200mm lenses (maybe f/4 non IS $500, F/4 IS $850, F/2.8 IS $1200). Also I think that all the DO lenses will be discontinued, as well as the 100mm f/2 and 135mm f/2.8. The current economy is going to cause a big hit for a lot of companies, and I can see Canon discontinuing some of their less popular lenses, and replacing the only the ones that are dying for updates (50mm f/1.4 and 35mm f/2 come to mind). I can also see them adding sure-shot sellers like a 400mm f/5.6 IS and 100-400mm II rather than doing updates of lenses like the 35mm f/1.4 L.

    I would love to see a 200mm f/2.8 IS, but I think that is wishful thinking. I think that Canon will be waiting to release a 1dIV for a while.

  • I think a 1D Mark IV is coming, but it will not be called a 1D Mark IV. It will be about 16 MP, full frame, 10 fps, with a 1.3x crop mode.

  • I was looking at Canon’s website and I see three entry level cameras… the 450D, 400D and 1000D… why should they release the 500D right now? I mean, the 1D is the one with the autofocus “problem” maybe is the 1D IIIn or 1D IV that is going to be announced @ PMA.

  • how old was the canon PowerShot Pro 1? it is under P&S category right? maybe a Pro 2 to compete with fujifilm, not a Rebel. PMA will be P&S day for canon. during this days DSLR will not bring more money in canon, P&S will do.

  • Canon already has the 28mm f/1.8 and 35mm f/2 and these are fully compatible with any cameras in Canon’s lineup. A EFs 35mm f/1.8 would be redundant.

    If they really want to release an EFs prime, I think wide angle is the way to go.

  • Re: the economy– any lens updates would have been started well before the current economic crisis, so might not affect this seasons updates. Hopefully they update the 50 or 35 tho.

  • Its amazing at how non owners of the 5D MK II keep telling those of us who own and use one how poorly it focuses in low light. Then they claim the auto focus did not change and ignore the fact that it did.

    Its 5:30 pm here, I just turned off the light in my room, only the computer monitor is going. With my 24-105mm f:/4 lens, it autofocuses just fine- In the Dark! It also takes a pretty fair picture, again in the dark. Of course, it was a 5 second exposure hand held, so it was blury, but I set the lens to infinity and it focused to 3.5 ft just fine.

    The low light focus is amazing, and it would have been better with a f/2.8 lens.

  • I’d definitely be interested in a body in this range, around the $1800-$2000 body-only price point. It would give a legitimate upgrade over the xxD range, and still leave the 5Dmk2 for those who need the resolution. I also wouldn’t object to a 1.3 crop in this spot.

    I’d also like to see Canon bring an enhanced AF system into the mid-range line. Everybody seems to rave about the Nikon AF system in the D300s and up. That might position a hypothetical 7D for more action, with the 5DmkII for higher-resolution work.

  • You really must not do much low-light, handheld work (such as music performance.) IS is invaluable for this. I’ve gotten great results as slow as 1/20th with the 70-200/2.8L IS; I use the 17-55/2.8 IS on my 40D’s down to 1/15th of a second all the time. Yes, if your subject is moving, the photo will be blurred – but almost every subject hits a spot where their motion is stopped or greatly reduced. What NEVER is reduced is camera shake caused by the photographer, and that’s where IS saves the day. The 24-70/2.8L with IS would be an immediate purchase for me. So would a 135/2L IS, which would make that lens useful in low light conditions without a monopod.

  • Entry level cameras are always huge cash-flow items. I see it every year where Canon or Nikon comes out with the new entry level camera and people are already selling their cameras they bought three months earlier to “upgrade” to the current model. I Personally think that in the Rebel line the only true updates were the 350D and 450D–but apparently others think different.

  • The 70-200 is used at 2-3x the focal length as the 24-70, so IS is more useful there since you’re generally shooting faster shutter speeds. You’re also already carrying around a giant lens so the size isn’t an issue.

  • the new 1D ?? MUST be introduced… it’s got to come out as the best kept secret and the best focusing, full frame (12-18 mgpix), 9+ frame per second equipment to date… Having been one of the biggest Canon biggots on the face of the earth… I’m heading to the Nikon booth to check out the D3 if Canon is sitting on their hands… 6 L lenses might be for sale March 6th… that PAINS me to even say that…

  • I think the EF-R is not too far fetched an idea in the lens line up. But the body size of the G10 doesn’t cut it though. If you measure the mount of the EF mount ( since it should be backward compatible, its probably too big for a G10 body. But it might be plausible that its smaller than the EF mount, but big enough to accomodate all the M mount Leica’s and Minolta’s of old with a suitable adaptor.

    The EF-R mount possibly being a step up adaptor.

    However, there lies in the problem. A 2x crop factor isn’t very attractive to most rangefinder fans. A FF or a 1.3 crop might be acceptable. So to make a lens small enough, the register distance would have to be very close indeed. Possibly under 25mm or even less!

    But if Canon pulls of something like that, it practically kills of the mystique of the Leica M8 altogether!! Something which I think to Canon pursue if the market study works out. It represents a new market for them in this aspect.

    I would be interested in a 1.3 crop or FF rangefinder EF-R camera definitely!!

  • Which is why I’m guessing Nikon, Oly & Panny will offer a better show since they’re all going to try to steal as much Canon users as possible before Canon get’s off it’s lazy arse and give’s people the products/updates they want.

  • I tell you what is amazing, that Canon didn’t sing any changes to the auto focus system, I wanted to but the mk2 but the literature canon supplied to me said it was the same. I dont think you can blame non mk2 owning consumers for saying it has poor auto focus… you can blame canon though

  • I see Canon delivering a 500D with video and Digic IV processor.

    A lot of the DIGIC IV potential will be waisted because the 500D will be a unfinished product done in a hurry.

  • yes they can. simply because the people who can afford a 1ds mkIII know the difference between iq and resolution. i’m pretty sure canon sees at the moment that nikon is having quite some sales with half the resolution. why? because those 13mp produce way better iq than a 21mp chip from canon. besides the difference between a prosumer and a pro body are also the extended functions and no playing around with “almost” usable video gimmicks. Canon should start working on their iq and high iso noise instead.

  • Ok, let’s give it a go (any prizes for best guess?)

    – 1D4 with some 16 MP, full-frame (1.3 is a weird cropfactor imho), no video.

    – 20mm f/2 L (the low-mm primes are neglected too long now)

    – 100-400L II f/4-f/5.6 IS (well, the old one still sells, but it’s getting old. IQ can use a bit of a boost, but might conflict with 400f/5.6 sales)

    – 50L f/1.2 II to compete with the new Sigma and Nikon alternatives. f/1.4 just lacks power.

    – perhaps, just a guess : 500L DO IS f/5.6 (DO has its problems, and lacks IQ, but still helps on long lenses with a higher f-number. Price some >2K or so, but still a useful light-weight birdspotting lens)

    No IS on <100mm primes? Nope. Why would they? Just because it sounds cool? It stabilizes your hand-movements, not the thing in the picture, and you can always rely on a nice n sturdy tripod if you really want to.

  • 500/5.6 DO lens around 2k? everytime they throw DO in they arguably screw up IQ (compared to traditional L) and more importantly skyrocket the price… that lens will be at least mid 4ks…. I hope they stop with the DO stuff already and just make some nice, normal (IS) lenses.

  • NOT a 24-105 f/4 MkII! Why on earth would Canon replace such a superb lens after only three years. I’ve seen this lens, with a older 5D and a 30×40 and it is amazingly sharp! People are getting silly in this technology age thinking everything is junk after a few years!

  • Have you ever used the 400mm f/4 DO IS? It is overpriced, but it is an excellent lens.

    I do agree that if a 500mm f/5.6 DO IS is introduced, the price would be in the $5K range. However, given that the DO lenses appear to be mostly targeted at professionals who are willing to pay $$$$, a 600mm f/4.0 DO IS at $10K price point is the more likely DO lens Canon would introduce.

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