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Coming February?
Another good source feels that the 1Ds4 will be announced in February.
From what's been heard, the 1Ds4 will contain some 7D design features. There were no specifics given.
Electronic level comes to mind for me.
5D Mark II Price Drop
The 5D2 seems to be dropping in price. It's $200 less at B&H. I'm not at home right now to confirm official price drops or dealer rebates.
The Nikon D900 is coming, perhaps that's the reason.
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Could it be that the claimed 1Ds4 isn’t a 1Ds4 at all but another rumoured camera, the EOS 3D.
Prices of both 7D and 5D are falling quickly here in the Netherlands.
I don’t believe that canon is going to introduce a new lineup.
if there is a new camera it is going to be an update for a current line up & the only camera that needs an update is the 1ds mark III
other design feature… the liveview/video switch?
“From what’s been heard, the 1Ds4 will contain some 7D design features. There were no specifics given.”
Well, duh. By definition newer cameras get some features tried in previous models.
FYI, here in Norway, price for the 5D Mark II has dropped from 20k NOK (=~2500EUR) in May 2009 to 17.5k NOK now Jan 2010, or 12.5%.
For example, some tech in 7D didn’t make it into the 1D Mark IV which was surprising (like the mentioned electronic level, buttons handling video more easily etc)
there will be a 1Ds4; it’s merely a case of when and what
the 3D is wishful thinking by a lot fanboys, most of whom have nothing better to do
A price drop on the 5DII makes sense. The camera has been out for over a year now and actually had a price *increase* before release. Now that the 1D IV is the new top dog in video, the 5DII can be a little more affordable.
Hopefully the 5DII price is elastic enough to get those people currently on the fence about a purchase to make their decision.
I can see Canon making the 1Ds IV announcement in February, but availability will likely come later. I think that the time between the 1D and 1Ds IIIs were about the same as we would be seeing here. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Honestly, the 1D4 is a joke apart from getting the AF fixed.
Lacks the feature set of 7D.
Lacks the image quality of D3s.
Hopefully, the 1Ds4 is MUCH better than that. Come on, Canon, you’ve been trailing Nikon for image quality and Pentax for features (sensible and flexible auto ISO implementation) far too long. Time to buckle up. Don’t just chase those pixels.
1Ds4 is of course going to show up in the next ten years for sure. I find a lot of the speculation about this, and especially about the lenses coming, a wild ramble. It’s like saying everything that anyone else is making will come from Canon. Fat chance.
Canon does need to get their act together on camera bodies – what’s the point of having incredible glass if you don’t have bodies that do them justice?
Canon is doing what they can do put out a “halo” product like the 1DsMarkIV . The buzz for quite a while shows that Nikon has the halo with the D3s – and deservedly so.
Having a halo may help them sell those megapixel laden mid range cameras. I’m very disappointed with canon. I rode the wrong DSLR horse 4 years ago with my 30D which I still have.
Well, Canon was indeed king of the world during the 30D era. Best image quality. Best AF. Best features. So, if it’s any consolation, the decision you made at that time was the right one.
Unfortunately, that time is long gone…
Agreed. I made a reasonable decision right at PMA in Orlando based on a great camera that was just announced (EOS 30D) and the Canon lens line up.
After that, Canon marketers decided to focus on the jellybean colored point and shoot market and to effectively drive off the image quality cliff with megapixels.
+ 1 million – Dead on conclusion
:rolls eyes:
historically the S-version of the 1-series camera has followed a few months after the non-S-version of the 1-series camera.
many working pros don’t need or want the feature set of the 7D, preferring canon to focus its attention and resources on the important features
And how would you know anything?
I am fortunate enough to have bought a 30D in 2007 and yes…it is a great cam.
Oh come on! For someone who just entered the room, so to speak, it seems that there is no way that you can take a halfway decent picture with anything Canon produces! Not to mention the fact that, while everyone agrees that the glass is much more important than the body, people still get mad that Canon does not put up great bodies, while acknowledging the superior lens line up….
The differences between most Canon/Nikon cameras are almost invisible in practice – i.e., in print. I bet that not 1% of the visitors of this site could pick an image shot with a Nikon 3Ds from one shot with Canon 1D IV, in poor but reasonable lighting (ISO 6400-12800), printed at A3 size and all else being equal.
Good friends don’t let their friends pixel peep! :)
Great! Just bought one a week ago :/
The EOS-1 series has always been targeting working pros, not fanboys, filthy rich bas*a**s, pixel peeps.
A new camera cannot please everyone. Even with the D3s, there are still people who can afford it but do not like it.
+1 billion
I want news of that full-frame Rebel some privileged people are talking about in the above thread!
Nikon D900? What happen to D800?
I am quite happy with my 40D, but I do want to go FF, and I want video capability. I’ll wait a few more months and see if anything new comes up with Canon.
I still might get the 7D because I think it’s a great value for a tough, fast, versatile camera. I’ll have a new camera this year, but I’m not in a hurry so I’m hoping something like the rumored 3D, 7Ds(FF version), or 5DmkIII will appear before I pull the trigger.
Is Not That Good And Brake the Papers and start building the D900
I dont Now
More info on the price drop here, tweeted by @canoneurope:
http://community.the-digital-picture.com/blogs/news/archive/2010/01/12/canon-eos-5d-mark-ii-price-drop-deals.aspx
The 7D also doesn’t allow custom focusing screens….
No, the camera that *needs* an update is the 5DMkII, specifically the AF and lower noise at higher ISOs.
“the 1Ds4 will contain some 7D design features”
APS-C sensor!! LOL
I’m thinking it will be one or all of these:
lcd focus screen,
iFCL metering,
Electronic level display.
I’m thinking that the AF sensors will be like the 1DIV,
3D will be this fall at earliest :(
Canon won’t release 2 FF bodies at the same time….
unless they actually listen to their customers.
It will be a long time till there will be a FF Rebel.
And only if Nikon & Sony release a <$2000 FF.
I'm sure we'll see a 3D FF body before a Rebel FF(9D?).
correct me if i’m wrong, Sony has a $2000 FF, the A850.
+1 trillion
You Jewish, Adrian?
Canon U.S.A. has a product tour up for the EOS-1D Mark IV. This is somewhat odd, as it isn’t selling in US stores yet!
http://syndicate.sellpoint.net/Syndicate/AptViewer?play=4I7FG9-246908&1=1&vsr_sku=null&vsr_price=4999.00&vsr_show_srp=true
Hey Guys, All this talk about the 1Ds Mk4…. what about the 1D Mk4??? We don’t even have any here in the states yet, I’ve put money down, waiting and waiting, come on Canon!!, Have I got to order one from Sweden?? And all this talk about features… does anyone actually shoot? I’m a pro shooter and have been amazed how crappy new camera’s are, even the 7d is a silly little toy, Who’s idea was it to put a round knob on the camera… without a lock? and this high asa??? I shot low light action last week, HA!! the grain is unusable above 1200asa, 800asa is almost acceptable for print… and of course low light focusing is just a joke, I don’t know what kind of focus group Canon uses but they must only shoot flowers and pets.
Yes, of course, that makes sense. I would like to see (and would buy unless price is crazy) a 1Ds4 with 32mpx. However, there are some issues with increasing mpx count:
– Resolution: Lenses simply cannot resolve much more than the current max density of 24mpx (D3x). We are reaching a real ‘physical’ limitation. All those point and shoots with 18mpx are a good way to sell hard drives. Junk pixels.
– Noise: Noise level for the sensor size implied by a 32mpx count is very hard to make low. Those people saying you can get the same noise level from a 32mpx density than you can from a 18mpx (and I have not yet seen if that can match D3s’s 12mpx density levels) are on something.
– Color performance: As you reach a 32mpx density on a 24×36 format, I wonder what you can do to the edges to avoid massive color fringes (and the resulting lower effective resolution at the edges). Leica is already doing some intricate microlensing on the M9 to avoid this problem, and that’s with an 18mpx sensor.
Clearly Canon’s engineers have a formidable challenge here. It’s not all that different from the processor speed challenge of Intel et al. It seems to me that after all the only way forward (that is higher resolution if you need it) is the Leica S2 way (or the H3 way).
Also, I wish Canon really got their act together in terms of autofocus and ergonomics. I personally think Nikon has done way better in these two regards.
mig
Agree. They do have to produce an answer to Nikon’s 14-24/2.8. They’ve already addressed the 70-200/2.8 with an update.
Joszke-Pondryk!
Pretty interesting stuff you guys have to say. I own a 1DsMark111. I put my skills a little below pro. This camera is great for my needs, mainly architectural. A lot of my shots are from a tripod, with the 16-35L. I was hoping to see the video capture feature in a IDsMarkIV. Right now I like to shoot some video for my work as well and use a GL2. I’m only after good quality shorts for renovation job site progress clips. It would be very nice to go up to HD, but will the system work? What do you think we can expect? I think if the video capacity is added, and it is good, others might be talked into trading their Mark111 in.
definitely think the glass is more important than the body.
own a 5D. havent seen any new body that makes me want to upgrade. so i always opt for more glass.
mark iv looks like what i want but the. cropped sensor is a tough buy for me. definitely dont want to go back to cropped sensor.
have to admit that nikons bodies are much more enticing than what canon has been putting out. but i have 5L lenses so cant really jump ship.
not sure why they chose to do a usm ii of the 70-200L lens.
cmon canon. what are you thinking?