50D Rebates come to life
Speculate away as to what this means. The rebate program ends around when we previously posted a 60D could be announced. Sometimes this stuff is coincidence.
Both Adorama and B&H are still closed for the holidays. We should see them correct for the new rebate prices soon.
I’m still shocked Canon sells the 28-135 IS, and I always think its on the way out when it appears in rebates. I haven’t heard anything about a new 70-300 IS. I do think they’re a strange pair to put together. You may not think so. :)
Rebates
- 50D Body Only: $100
- 50D w/28-135 IS: $100
- 50D w/70-300 IS: $250
- 50D w/28-135 IS & 70-300 IS: $250
Thanks deeyas
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the post should say 28-135 not 28-105.
Thanks :)
We are waiting for thr 60D with HD video :)
I could imagine the 70-300IS selling slower then expected. The 55-250IS is almost there but much cheaper and the full frame or high end crowds probably go straight for a 70-200.
new lenses? no ? :(
24-70 IS…
the 28-135 is still very good value for the money !!!
Canon have just started a cashback offer for the 50D in the UK too…
http://www.canon.co.uk/eosspringcashback/
It’s great value now :)
Maybe it is just a coinicidence that the 50D is being offered a rebate at the time when the 60D is rumored to be launched. However, I don’t think that Canon will drop the xxD line just yet, as it is very popular. And it seems the timing is about right for another xxD camera to hit the market.
Why not a slightly watered down 7d?
I’ve owned the 55-250 and 70-300 at the same time. The 70-300 is a far better lens.
I have heard that it greatly depends on the copy you get. I had one with the original rebel and the 1.6x factor made it hard to use as a walk around lens. Also, it requires a LARGE filter.
I much prefer the range of something like 20-100 for an APS-C camera. I’d trade a little of the wide end for a little more on the tele.
Frankly, I’d rather have a 40 than a 50. Sure, the microfocus is nice, but the sensor is noisier. I think Canon might be surprised how many 40D refugees, like me, are out there….. just waiting and hoping.
I am crossing my fingers that something magical will happen with the 60D.. but bracketed by the T2i and 7D, I doubt it. We are sure to have an 18 megapixel sensor….
I am with you. This is not a coincidence. Get ready… a 60D will be announced by September.
Poor you, come and join me in the waiting seat.
Thats it! the 60d is going to be out soon!
no 1ds mark III rabates by any chance ? :p
I totally agree, People don’t buy the 7d and when I usually ask why? price comes as an answer.
I own 55-250 is and 70-300mm Do lens and believe that the 70-300 is better. However, you cannot agnore the 55-250mm value for money.
I have the hood on my70-300 and when it all extends, it is VERY conspicuous. Also, the inertia of the hood when it focuses I suspect (can’t prove) affects AF performance. I really, really dislike the rotating external lens on focus. I won’t buy another lens that does that. Also, it lacks full-time manual focus. It really can’t handle darting subjects like birds very well. But it does ok on kite surfers, race cars, etc. Predictable path objects.
I’d be interested in the 70-300 DO, but I’ve read several reviews and I don’t recall many being gung ho on it especially shooting into the light. At that price, I want them to sing the praises. It sure has the advantage though of being a smaller lens and I really like the 70-300 range.
I’d like to see a 70-300 f4 L IS lens. Anyone else?
I think that an improvement to the 70-300 IS would fit nicely as an upgrade to the 55-250. Give it ring USM, full-time manual focusing, a non-rotating front element, and maybe improve the optics a bit between 200 and 300mm. I’d imagine that many of the same kinds of improvements will be implemented on the rumored 50/1.4. It doesn’t have to be an L, but there should be a worthwhile consumer-level upgrade from the 55-250.
lol…. they’re going need to have a bigger rebate than that to sell anyone a 50D with some mediocre lenses.
I’m amazed they still make/have/bundle the 28-135. IMO it’s an awful pairing for the 1.6 crop sensors.
wanna hug?
28-135 seen craigslist? It’s a popular lens to sell.
Even do the zoom creep and the long wide end of the 28-135 is still a bargain of a good lense, far better than any EF-S kit lense out there, some argue that the new 18-135mm image quality is close, i dont believe so, i was fortunate enough to get a good copy when i bought my 7d and wao, what a difference wheh you have a big barrel to grasp than those of the EF-S kind. i personally dont like wide angle lenses too much do to distortion when tilting or doing close to far perspective shots, i’d rather spend my money on primes or constant aperture lenses. but like neroon said down below is still a very popular lense and it keeps selling very good out there.
It’s so painful to wait. 24-70IS, where art thou?
I’m not astonished that the 28-135 is still being sold, but I am surprised (actually, appalled might be more accurate) that it is being sold in a kit with the 7D and 50D. Wouldn’t the 18-135 or even the 15-85 be a better choice?
If the 60D arrives with the video of T2i, improved AF, microfocus, some of the well liked handling features of the 7D, improved vf and the 3:2 LCD screen and priced aggressively at $1150… they should sell quite a few. If it comes with a new and really improved sensor then look out…
I know I am dreaming. They are likely to set body retail at $1299….
I looked at the uk link. Why is the brand new 550 being discounted? That seems crazy….
I not only would rather have the 40D than 50D, but I’m living the dream.
With my 5D Mark Nothing in the shop for repair in January, I was pressed on the need for an additional backup body to go with my 40D. I rented a 50D to test and was not impressed with the improvement in low light performance. In fact, aside from the fact that the larger file gives you slightly more room to work with in noise reduction, the 50D was pretty much no improvement. I’d have taken a 50D if I got a killer deal on a good used one, but no way I’d pay new camera money for one. Bit the bullet and got a 7D instead.
And I just last week replaced the shutter in my 40D, so it’s good to go for another 100K images.
Bookmark this post and come back an say “I told you so” if I’m wrong, but I still say there will never be a 60D.
The 18-135 and 15-85 are the 7D kit lenses in the UK… I wonder why they have different kits in different regions?
why before the 7D was only the rebels and the XXD? i thing there is no need to bring new XXD since 7D (wich has the crown of the crop sensors now) and 550D have a small gap bettwen them. why canon waste money just to make another model?
the consumer can choose like the old days XXXD for 800 and less or 7D for 1k+.
because choice is good? cheaper model than the 7d is good?
newer tech is always good?
there are many reasons why we should want a new 60D.
why should we bother how canon releases these and how much of a gap each has. Canon won’t fold if they release the 60D and I’m pretty sure you’ll be fine if it doesnt meet up to expectations. Newer models usuallly help increase sales esp if a model brings in new sensor model or whatever.
If they bring out a 60D this year, I look forward to seeing what new tech canon puts into their camera. I’d love to see canon improve on the crop sensors and make us believe there is a lot more that can be done with the cramming of pixels, ISO, low noise etc.
I dislike posts like yours and people who can’t seem to see pass this whole nonsense about not having a big enough gap. ALL NONSENSE!!!
Bundling 50D with 28-135 and 70-300 sounds to me like a way to push people into FF. Lure them in with a mid-level body and FF lenses, and many of them will eventually buy a 5D2.
You don’t like these posts because they don’t give you what you want. However the truth is that the gap between 550D and 7D is extremely small in terms of marketing and sales.
Give the 60D too much features and they kill their 7D, Give the 60D a bit too less and people will prefere the 550D for the fewer bucks.
Tell me in honest and feature spec what the 60D should be without borrowing too much out of the 7D line.
We have seen this with the 5D MKII which could be a lot better camera, however Canon decided to cripple it in AF.
If a 60D will appear this is for sure where Canon will cut down in specs as well in weather proof, custom functions and probably even in MP.
The 60D will bring short in a lot of your wishes. I am totally sure about that.. So don’t whine and cry like babies if it falls short of your expectations.
$100 rebate for the 50D As a result, the 50D is listed now, after the rebate, for $999. “Regular Price”: $1,099!
IT was just 925$ all over the places
Adorama increased the price by about $170 and their customers have to pay $70 more now, because there is a rebate!
There is the 17-55 2.8 which is the best general purpose lens on APS-C cameras.
There are lots of people that can’t afford the 7D, but the 550D it too much compromise on the photographic side. Sure they are both great cameras, and virtually identical on the video side. Its the Ergonimics and Stills that the 7D is scoring most points over the 550D.
Between these two Cameras there is a large customer base just waiting for the 6OD to come out. If the price drops on the 7D then these people will be answered, but lets face it’s probably not going to drop much more for a good while yet. Thus people like myself are hoping that the 6OD will come soon.
As for what specs a 60D may or may not contain, I’m hoping that Canon has shown the way forward with the S90 and G11, by droping the pixel count and not pushing video features as much. Dont get me wrong video is nice to have but stills is what i want first and foremost.
If the 60D was to concentrate as a still camera more than video features (with perhaps 14Mp sensor?) with improved ISO and AF over the 50D then it would probably sell like the proverbial hot cakes to all those people like myself that can’t afford the 7D, but don’t want the 50D since the 7D was released, and are thus sitting on the fence until either the 7D drops further or the 60D is announced.
I always thought it was really retarded that Canon bundled a 28-135mm with the XXD/7D considering they already make the 17-85mm IS USM. 28mm is way too long on a crop sensor , I’d take the rebel’s 18-55mm IS over the 28-135mm any day. However, I don’t think too many 5Dmk2 users are looking to upgrade so they can use their 28-135mm, at the very least they want a 24-105mm.
I had the impression that the 7D is selling rather well. But obviously it is not the right camera for everybody. Price, weight, size…
There is space for a new xxD series model, and I hope to see it soon.
A 70-300 f/4 L would be nice, maybe even a 100-300 f/4 L. It would be about the same size and weight as the 70-200 f/2.8L and 300 f/4L prime, maybe a tad bigger.
However, I am afraid that we will have to wait for the 100-400L to be updated first.
The improvements on the rumoured 50mm f/1.4 are just that, rumours.
Canon used to have (in the film days) a 70-210mm f/3.5-4.5 and 100-300mm f/4-5.6 USM with ring-USM, FTM and non-rotating front element, decent optical performance, but no IS (did not exist at the time). That line was dropped, however, in favour of the more popular 70-300.
Maybe someone could dig out the plans, add IS, and run the optics through the lens optimiser software…
The new 70-200mm f/4L seems to be a new design, though, not based on the old 70-210 f/3.5-4.5.
Ok. You have a 5d, 4d and now a 7D. What is your opinion about the images you get. Clearly the 7D is going to have better handling, features, etc. But when it comes to images do you find that you have to carefully choose them for the shooting situation? In other words, would you dare to use your 7D in low light? Can it match the 5d? My feeling is that for noise I’d put 5D, then 40D and finally 7D. Is that what you see?
I think he was trying to say that lots of people sell it because they don’t want to keep it – because they are not satisfied with it.
On a 1.6x crop APS-C sensor, the range of focal lengths is a bit odd, because it is missing out completely on the wide angles.
I’ve been unimpressed with the 18-135. That is just too much of a compromise to get that range in the lens. CA looks bad, bad in the sample shots I have seen.
There may not be too much of a gap in a simple list of features such as pixel count, HD video etc.
However, in the build quality, weight, handling and price there is plenty of space for an intermediate model such as a 60D.
You might also say that the 7D is APS-C to lure people with EF-S lenses into the high end market, where they will eventually buy L-series lenses and FF bodies.
Check out the ‘blip’ upward on the end of the chart… looks like some retailers are doing this. Making the rebate their own….
http://www.streetprices.com/x/wrapper.cgi?imgid=26564574&title=StreetPrices+Price+Graph+for+the+Canon+EOS+50D+(body+only)&return=/Cameras/Digital_Cameras/SLR/15_Megapixel/Canon-EOS-50D-2807B006-SP26564574.html
B&H still shows 929.95; however, they do not yet show the new rebate, and they are still closed for the holiday.
What their website has upon opening tomorrow could be interesting…
Your wishes will be answered by price, not by the 60D itself as this camera will not appear on the market until next year, if at all.
There is a huge gap between the 7d and the 550d in both price and specs. Don’t let the same sensor fools you. 35mm SLRs all virtually used the same sensor, film. You could install almost any 35mm film on any 35mm SLR. Yet, there was a huge gap in price and specs between the entry level and the top level and there were many models in between.
Want a more modern day proof? Take a look at Nikon’s D90. It is placed between the D300s (a 7d compotator) and the D5000 (a 550d compotator) and it is still one of Nikon’s Best sellers to this date. If there is a place for the D90 then there should be a place for a 60d. Furthermore, Now that the 7d is released the 60d will be a direct Compotator to the D90 (where in the past it used to be compromise between the D90 and D300). I believe that it is and easy win for Canon and they are not going to miss it.
With Sony putting a gizzlion model in the market with minimum gaps in between, and with Nikon having a modern and a more appealing fleet, Canon cannot afford to leave any gap in the market no matter how small it is. Even though we have the 550d, Canon kept the 500d and the 450d because it didn’t want to take any chances.
Furthermore and thanks to the new parts sharing trend, Cameras are no longer that expensive to design and make. Lots of Cameras now share the same sensor, processor, LCD screen, LED screen, battery, buttons, focus systems, mirror boxes, view finders, software, menu system …etc. The camera manufacturers do not need to design a fully new camera anymore. They will take many of the existing parts and package it differently. I know that this sounds oversimplified and it is. But designing a camera these days have become much easier and less expensive than before. So it is much easier to introduce a new model and it won’t cost much to design and to build.
One final note is that the 50d was released on August 2008. The xxd have a life cycle of 18 months to two years. If there is going to be a new xxd, it’s going to be here soon….
Making the rebate their own and THEN some. Let’s lure people in with our magic rebate offer when really we’re raising our prices.
This is why rebates don’t affect my buying decisions.
yeah, but the 17-55 is many times more expensive than the 28-135. I have the latter, and while it is not a good walkaround lens, I like it very much for portraits in the studio, where I use my apertures between f/6.3 and f/8. At least my copy is very sharp and produces good images. I love the zoom range for this kind of work on my 7D… until I can afford a 24-105L.
yeah.. the 7D is selling like pancakes.. I love mine.. I love the advanced focusing and the fast 8fps.. not to mention the video. I like my 50D too, but the 7D is just awesome and the price isn’t so bad really.
24-105? Excellent lens, but big and heavy, not to mention the filter size.
I’ll be impressed if they reconfigure thehypothetical 60D body and handling. First off: a smaller form factor will be appreciated–somewhere between a T2i and 7D. T2i is fine for travel, but too small and cramped for prolonged shooting, especially when paired with larger lenses.
I’d prefer something a little bigger in form factor and weight than the T2i, but smaller than the xxD and 7D, 5D, 5D2 bodies to retain some of that light travel appeal of the T2i.
The 7D handling is superb, don’t get me wrong. But it would be a neat compromise and experiment if Canon did something in between for a possible 60D model. Think D90 size and ergonomics. I’d probably get one to go with my 5D2. The mid-size idea to me represents the perfect marriage of handling features and travel convenience.
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I don’t get it. I’ve heard every possible reason. My best guess is a cost to quality issue. The lens is cheap for Canon to make and it gives decent optical performance with IS. The 15-85 would be the obvious choice, but it’s expensive to make and sell and pushes the price of the camera too high (apparently) to remain attractive for many new buyers.
Wait, the 24-105L is big and heavy?!?! lol.
And filters, really? People still buy those? Huh.
Maybe because UK’s introductory MSRP is very high to begin with.
Tomorrow may show $999.95 due to higher demand.
That’s exactly my point. The best way to motivate people to continue upgrading is to never give them enough. 28mm is not wide enough for many, and 28-135 is not good enough optically for 5D2. So people just keep buying. One thing is: if the owners of 50D and 28-135 are not happy about the wide end, they won’t downgrade to 17-85 or 15-85(even if they are more expensive), but only move up.
If Canon bundle 50D with 15-85, that’s gonna be satisfiable for many. That’s not a “Starter’s kit”, more like a “Ender’s kit”. So that’s a no-go.
There is a definite price gap open, however you don’t simply set price, you must match features to a price people are willing to bear. So what you are telling us is in your opinion build quality, handling alone are worth another $300-$400?? No, you need to differentiate with hard features, sales are driven by hard features (at least the mass sales that make the camera worth while(think $$$) to produce). So what is the hard feature list that is worth another $300-$400 over the T2i but doesn’t cannabalize 7D?
In Japanese there is a great phrase: dakara nani? So what? You claim there is a wide range of ‘space’ available, you tell us about tangentially related ‘similar situations’ and yet can’t tell us what specific features you are willing to pay $300-$400 more for (over T2i). What feature set will the market(or even just you) pay an extra $300-$400 over a T2i but are such that people will still spring the extra cash for the features a 7D has over the proverbial 60D>
Well maybe they’ll name it the 7DmkII then. Who knows what Canon’s marketing department will do. Perhaps the xxD line will get turned into an EVIL line of bodies using the EF/EF-S mount
If you looked at my previous posts, you would of seen the specs I’m expecting from the 60d. This is what your will be getting for an extra $300 give or take some features:
18MP APS-C CMOS Sensor
New single DIGIC V processor
ISO range 100 – 6400 (expandable to 12800)
63 Zone Dual Layer Metering
Exposure compensation +/-5 stops
19 Focus Points with 9 cross type (f/2.8 at center: Dual Cross Sensor)
6 Frames Per Second
E-TTL II auto flash with EX-series Speedlites
Intelligent Viewfinder with 95% frame coverage
3:2 Clear View LCD screen with 1,040k dot resolution
CF Card Type I and II, UDMA-compliant CF cards
Movie rec size (1080P, 720P, 640×480, VGA crop)
Frame rate (1080: 30, 24 or 24 fps, others 50/60 fps according to PAL/NTSC setting)
New Revised Body
New Battery and Battery Grip
USB, mini HDMI, MIC input
So to sum it up, for the price of a 550d + $300 you will get a better body, better focus, better customization and a faster FPS. A perfect Camera for advanced amatures on a budget.
with the price of the 60D + $300 you will get the 7d. A camera that have a faster FPS, weather sealing, and a better focusing system. A Camera for Advanced Amatures with High Budget or Professionals who need a lower budget camera or need a lower priced second body.
People sell in CL to discount the cost of the camera by $100 or so.
Use a website like http://www.pricegrabber.com
Presently, it shows 42nd street photo (NYC) selling the 50D for $899.
They’re a big brick and mortar store, like B&H in NYC. You might say the two are competitors?
Bigger and heavier than the 17-85 f/3.5-5.6 anyways.
Smaller than a 500mm f/4, but that is not exactly a walk-about lens.
And what is wrong with filters? Polarizers or ND filters give effects that you cannot produce in post processing.
I think it is quite likely that your wish becomes true.
For me build quality and handling are the most important features these days.
I already have more MP than I need,
I don’t care for video,
I don’t want scene modes and direct print button – I’d probably pay $50 more to get rid of them and have direct access to ISO, AF control, WB, …
I am very rarely limited by frame rate – more by buffer size, but even that is rarely critical.
Wireless flash control is a semi-professional feature I do not expect in a prosumer-level camera like the 60D.
The one feature where any improvement is welcome is AF.
In my personal opinion you are aiming a bit high.
I would speculate:
– Exposure compensation +/- 3 stops
– 11 focus points, 3 cross type
– CF card type I only, or SD card
– Smaller and lighter than 50D, but bigger and more robust than T2i.
– Maybe plastic instead of metal body, but still metal lens mount.
But all that is speculation. We will see what the future brings.
As of Wednesday morning the price at B&H is 999.00 still with free shipping — no web mention yet of the instant rebate to bring it to 899, though I imagine that they’d give it to you over the phone.
My guess is Canon pushed out a price increase and a rebate at the same time.
The many camera stores that raised the price of the 50D will only have more of them on their shelves for a longer period of time. It certainly keeps me from buying an additional camer body with the features I want. It may not be the newest and best but the price of $930.00was more in the area I’m willing to pay than $1000.00 after a $100.00 Rebate ! I’ll make due with what I have !!!
42nd street Photo:
http://www.42photo.com/pd-productid-14645-k-canon_eos_50d_151_megapixel_digital_camera_%28body%29.htm
50D for $899 + shipping ($0 for UPS ground.)
So you can get it for $30 less than what you wanted… time to put your money where your mouth is, are you going to buy or are you just going to talk?
btw, Adorama have also dropped the cost down to $929.
What will be your excuse now?
As of now…
42nd Street is $899
Adorama $929
>btw, Adorama have also dropped the cost down to $929.
No, they have not.
You’re right, Adorama are cheating and their minimum price is now $999 (like it was before.)
So the only place selling a 50D for under $900 is 42nd Street.
I find it interesting that Canon came out with this $100 instant rebate and almost immediately all of the authorized retailers raised their price so that the new price after the instant $100 rebate was higher than the price prior to the rebate.
Nice rebate!
I guess I gotta issue an erratum: B&H now has the 50D at 1099 — 999 *after* the rebate.
Ouch!
$849 for body only.
http://www.us1photo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=7459