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Coming Soon
The new firmware for the 5D Mark II will arrive the week of March 17, 2010. This seems to be close to the NAB show.
The information briefly appeared on the Canon UK web site, it's now gone at the URL I was given.
Features
Live Histogram for Video
Sound Level Control
24p/25p
No word on 60fps yet.
I've also heard there may be sound level meters, count this feature as a CR2 rumor.
More info on the subject to come.
cr
thank you CR. :DDDDD
i think my head exploded on the way here, i was so excited.
[sigh]
pleeeeeeease be true.
It’s about time…the marketing strategy of Canon is so obvious!
Great news. I’m sure this will make a lot of people happy.
We told it was imminent, but intentionally delayed since so long…
Hopefully this becomes “official” this time.
^^^ Ditto what Luke said! ^^^
Can I know what which be the updates? 1080p at 60fps?
Ay gracias diosito mio!
Just for clarity, the 2010 NAB show is April 10-15.
I hope the reports are wrong. I want 60fps at 720.
At this stage in the game, I would expect this to be the last major firmware release for the 5D Mark II. Further advancements would likely be saved for its eventual replacement, I think.
I hope its everything I want :)
I’d say that firmware release corresponds to the release of the new 70-200 f/2.8L II IS. I’d imagine they will bring as many as possible of the new Rebel and 7D features to the 5DM2 to drive sales of that new lens. Their margins on a $2500 lens have to be pretty hefty, they’ll want to give us all an incentive to buy an expensive new lens to try out interesting new video features. Just a cynical guess as to why the delay in releasing the firmware.
You’re right CR guy! The following is from the Canon UK website, copied and pasted:
“Announcement regarding movie function enhancements and a fix for the manual sensor cleaning function for the EOS 5D Mark II”
“Announcement regarding movie function enhancements and a fix for the manual sensor cleaning function for the EOS 5D Mark II. Market Support Once the preparations for releasing the new firmware are complete, this announcement will be updated.”
But if you attempt to click on the link you’ll notice that the page at:
http://www.canon.co.uk/support/system/500.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/Support/System/Search.aspx
has been removed.
Gestapo at Canon Japan seems to be particularly efficient in removing whatever they don’t like to be revealed in the times and/or ways they don’t approve, not only videos…
I don’t suppose they bothered to include a decent AF in that firmware update? No? I didn’t think so….
The AF is what it is. I didn’t even know people were looking for this to be “upgraded”
I hope the sensor cleaning and movie functions go together. I have a few hot pixels in movie mode that would be nice to have mapped out during the manual sensor clean.
still no auto iso in manual mode, uh?
lol, do you guys think that their firmware update will be Mark III ?
Can’t wait… those crying out for 720/60p should just be glad that we got our wish of manual control and 24/25p
Very rarely do Canon give out firmware like this.
“Gestapo at Canon Japan seems to be particularly efficient in removing whatever they don’t like to be revealed in the times and/or ways they don’t approve, not only videos…”
You can bet it!
I see no way for the 5D2 AF to be improved via firmware upgrade, unless it is something related to the algorhitms which drive AI Servo. But I’m not a specialist, so take my 2 cent for what it is…
Canon 5D MkIII to be announced March 16th? :D
Sorry, “algorithms”.
How about the ISO limit as the new 550D? Any ideas if this is coming out or not for older bodies?
– Very rarely a HUGE amount of people join forces to request for so long. That, along other factors, was a BIG reason. Any smart company will take seriously what so many customers request, especially when we are talking about a multi-thousand device adopted by amateurs, professionals and even companies.
If any doubt about how important all the requests were and the influence they had, just check our BLOG and read posts since early 2009.
That won’t always happen, but as we said many times, the 5D2 is a unique case, and who does not ask, rarely receive.
– The new firmware DOES have 720p too (unless Canon decides to pull it out on last moment!!)
The new firmware DOES have 720p mode (unless Canon decides to pull it out in last moment!)
Maybe they took the website down because it forgot to mention 720p 50/60fps and auto ISO for video :)
1080p at 60fps is not possible: not enough computing power onboard.
Great news!! I hope it will support 720p too :)
The date seems to coincide with the launching of the FCP plugin Canon has announced. That plugin would allow to annotate video with timecode, etc.
http://www.shortlink.org/fcpplugin
I hope so. Yes, I really hope so!
holy cow – we get it already! you won! Congratulations! now do your blood pressure a favor and give it a rest.
I sent several emails, phone calls and did various petitions…. all i’m saying is that we shouldn’t get too angry is 60p isn’t on the list.
This is beyond awesome! It’s everything I need to use the 5D2 for my video shoots. No more lugging around an EX1.
If we apply this firmware update to a 5D mk I, will it get video then ?
So are we to assume that “Sound Level Control” also falls under the ability to disable the auto gain control?
Yeah. Even the dual digic 7D can only do 30fps max on 1080p.
Hi 5d mark II Team!
720p @ 60fps or simply 720p?
How can you be so confident?
Do you have any other confidential information on additional improvement for stills?
Well done Tim, now you hurt the ex1’s feelings, hope your happy with yourself! Its ok ex1 your are not that fat, remember when everyone loved you cause you were small.
Great news! … but is it still just a rumour? Or has CanonRumors actually seen the evidence from the Canon website?
Is March 17th the date? It’s a Wednesday and the week begins on the 15th.
Does your posting reference to ‘Sound level control’ and ‘Sound Level Meters’ suggest that your CR3 source indicated that the AGC can be defeated, but couldn’t confirm if there will be a live audio level display?
Has anyone found a Google ‘cached’ for the page?
Thanks.
Does this mean you’ll give it a rest when it comes out? If so, like you, I’m also grateful to Canon, albeit for a very different reason.
wow, i hope its all true – if so, what a great update from canon!
But the fact is it is.
Guys in New Zealand already have the firmware, so it can’t be long for the general release.
I forgot to ask about the 720P.
I don’t get why Canon is stalling this for so long?
got that one, but well, who knows, maybe we start another campaign for those 500D owners ;)
“How can you be so confident?”:
………. (Can’t answer that question)
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Sorry, no additional info about still features, but would be really easy for Canon to include at least AutoISO limits, like we request since early 2009 (as well as more frames for Bracketing, although this last one is less probable)
AutoISO for video is already included in 1.1.0 (it goes from 100 to 6400)
What is not included is a “working” AutoISO for stills (it only goes to ISO 400 in M, and to 3200 in Av)
And of course, we all need AutoISO LIMITS that makes it more usable.
lol! nice one!
I don’t use the video, not because I’m agaunst it, but I just don’t have the time. However, I am very glad that Canon is stepping up and improving the software.
Given the hardware that is in the camera (2 year old design), there will be a limitation, and probably 60fps is not doable.
However, it certainly makes my camera more valuable when I go to sell it, and thus reduces my net cost. The higher production rates due to the huge sales boost benefits Canon’s bottom line, and improves the chances that some big improvements in autofocus as well as video are going to be in the next version. They can price a new version based on a bigger sales base which will mean lower prices than there would be for a smaller base.
Yes… I am so sad…. :-(
I still cannot believe that Canon does not want to solve the ISO problems of the Canon 5D II, it is unbelievable…
I thought I bought a camera, instead I have an uncomfortable-half-video-recorder for marketing blond people and half-maybeless-camera for joked photographers…
http://www.petitiononline.com/Canon5D/
im not gonna lie, im not a business major… so that confused the **** outta me. lol. jk. but yeaa, word man.
Any word if they are going to change the 30fps to 29.97….. please…..
Thanks 4 the Info!
I’ll hate Canon, if I wont get 720p @60fps!!!
I’m planning something which would look really be cool in slowmo!
And if a cheaper 7D can make it, but my 5D cannot (in the Future) I’ll be really disappointed – and there is no plausible explanation if u ask me…
This firmware was in existence 12 months ago after Mr Lucas and Speilberg used it extensively and made recommendation to Canon. Surely no one would believe Canon can be persuaded by some online pressure group.
Is everybody happy now?
I truly think it is all a little bid very late: nearly 1,5 years now.
I think this is not so much to be pleased with, although never too late to deliver.
But still I think here is some ignorance still present with the Japanese engineers, marketers and other responsible people.
Could not they inform us better? Is it not time to be more open to people? Have as any modern firma normal contact possibilities like telephone and e-mail?
Did they have to do everything in so much secrecy?
Wasn’t this the!! Chance to be for the first time a real modern firm to make firmware as so many asked, shows they really listened? I think yes.
Onno Nugteren, Dutch photographer and filmer with this new technology.
Please. Please. Please be true.
Someone told me they’d put 120FPS at 1080p :( now I’m sad. Oh well, can’t wait till this update comes, its badly needed.
February Fools.2
Still hoping that Auto-ISO limits and in Manual. It would be nice to limit minimum shutter speed in P and A – Canon’s defaults for most lens is too slow by 2-3x for the resolution the sensor is capable of, esp. with L-glass.
Hoping… waiting…
Well if you ask me i’m sure there’s a reason, i don’t think it’s that easy to get high frame rates on a CMOS that large, we’re still talking of a fullframe sensor. Man it gets hot on normal framerates i think it could melt down the sensor, that’s why they still don’t get it.. MAybe on the next generation of sensors it will be possible. Who knows. Obviously i’m not an engineer, but this are my2c.
Goodbye
60fps is possible with the ‘2 year old design’
The t2i does 60fps with the same processor
Hmmm, ok I’m not an engineer ever, but…
…1080p has 2,25 times more pixels than 720p
So if I cut the processed pixels in half (or 1/2.25) and double the framerate, the load should be more or less equal?
But again: I’m not an Engineer and probably all I”m saying is pure nonsense. At least those are pure speculations (by me).
+1… Although, if you have auto ISO in manual mode, how do you control exposure compensation? One dial controls aperture, one dial controls shutter speed, if the ISO is auto… how do you tweak it’s “automatic interpretation”.
(This isn’t a problem in TV/AV modes because the thumb wheel controls ISO in auto ISO mode).
HD>hdmi output. To me the most important/ thing after 24/25p
Troll much?
I wonder if 1080-24p and 720-60p will actually be 23.997 & 59.994, further I wonder if the current 1080-30p will be modified to 29.997. This would then coincide with the 1D MarkIV and 7D.
I could definately see uses for the sound controls as well. Let’s help this all comes to fruition.
If this is true: HALLLLELLLLUUULJA!
I hope you are right…. but until Canon say it, it is NOT a fact.
The 7D has dual Digic IV.
I think it is likely 720/60p will be available though.
If the info was on the Canon site, then taken down, is there ny reason why it’s not showing up in google’s cache?
yea, i think they will now have standard framerates
I was reading another source that mentioned the New 5D Mark III could be released late 2010 / early 2011, and it is possible the 720-60p feature may not be in the upcoming firmware update for the Mark II. It was further mentioned that this feature would be included on the Mark III. I guess we’ll wait & see.
Officially it isn’t a fact yet, that’s right.
But……
So… Over at NR they are all foaming about a potential March 8th release date for the D700s/x/800/900 camera they have been waiting for. This means that everyone over her at CR is going to use this as a reason to believe that a 1Ds MkIV release is imminent.
The one fact that the NR mob have forgetten to factor in, is that their “Press Morning” is at the Focus on Imaging show in Birmingham (UK). There is F.A. chance of any company lauching anything in Birmingham!
I heard an interesting rumour:
Hudson was part of the firmware development team!
We can expect some new suprising features too!
My source also claimed, that canon is heading for a complete other direction about firmware in the future.
A canon camera OS is planned for their next generation of still and moving cams.
It will not be open source, but very open and flexible for developers.
Scripts and programms from the community and companies for canon cameras are then possible!
It seems they want to copy the app store idea from apple successfully to the camera
segment.
Yes, Canon fix it to 29.97fps.
The Dual digic 4 was not the reason to get 720p60 on the 7D. Those dual CPUs are intended to get faster burst rate and faster noise reduction on the fly, as stated by Canon.
As we posted in 2009 in our Blog, a SINGLE Digic 4 can handle 24p and 60p (Canon press conference report in Japan)
Don’t forget the 550D…
Of course there are other factors, it’s not only about Digic 4. But Canon implemented 720p on the 5D2, so it should be included in the upcoming release.
Or… you could learn how to select your own ISO…
It will even magically change add a Mark II badge to the front and make the LCD bigger/better. TRY IT!
:P
Wow that would be quite a step forward. Looking forward to this being true!
Thanks. I was considering buying a used mkI just for this. Now I am confident I can.
I’ve been saying that adding plugin support in camera could
completely change peoples work flow, and add new features.
I was having a pretty crummy day until I read this ::hears singing coming from the heavens::
Auto iso is a joke. Learn how to use iso; you’ll be glad you did.
ha!
I will be really sad if 720p is not included, but I will take what I get. Perhaps I’ll just hold off on getting another 5DII and wait for the 5DIII. That said, if 720p is included, I will be buying a second mkII.
Here’s hoping!!
We really understand what you say.
Just try to get in contact with any employee at Canon Japan, and you’ll see how hard or impossible it is…
There is not even an open channel for direct feedbacks nor real contact (the online support is really insufficient and many times even not good). That gives you an idea of the huge efforts we all have done.
Despite some people may think “this is” only thanks to Spielberg, Lucas, Tarantino or whoever they want to mention, the REAL thing is that THAT is only 1 variable in the whole equation and NOT the only and big reason of why we are getting firmware updates, with even more than it was announced in October of 2009.
Some people still didn’t understand how important was and is the customers voice when joined in thousands.
Geez, I didn’t realize I’d need to put a /sarcasm tag at the end of it.
“Lighten up, Francis!”
This is simplifying it way way big time, but if you go 1920x1080x30 it comes out to a little over 62 million pixels to move per second. If you go 1280x720x60, it comes out to a little over 55 million. So the hardware should be able to handle the bandwidth.
Yes I know, thank you for your commend, on the other hand your website thrives thanks to this misery.
The only thing is what bothers me a little bid is that many many people, even and I emphasize even here on this website, the majority of people are more concerned about when the new 2.8 24-70 M 2 comes instead of asking is this really the lens we need now or is it at all such a good or better lens than the existing?
I guess: yes it will be better and this lens is for me the lens to have, yes.
But what about the new direction technology has brought us?
Why don’t I see this new lens also specialized for filming?
Can’t be done so quickly?
Not the right timing, more to earn from this half way new technology than radical bring a new lens technology with quiet image stabilization and made ready for also autofocus while filming?
The Chance again for Canon to be modern and communicate about this issue?
Why again not campaigning in this new direction?
Why again do I hear this question so little times asked?
Can we be happy about this?
Perhaps yes!
Would it not be nice to give chances to Nikon, to Red to….??
Would it not better to have more companies in the running?
Off course! I would say, still I see so much ignorance, sticking to old ways everywhere.
Funny, this appears to be also so much true for the most ‘modern’ company at this moment: Canon.
New Technology comes by coincidence?
Or are there just too many people and money involved?
Thanks for reading, Onno Nugteren Dutch photographer and filmer with this new technology.
About Canon contacting Hudson:
UNFORTUNATELY that’s NOT true.
Nobody at Canon has contacted Trammell Hudson.
He has AMAZING skills and experience in many programming areas.
It’s a pity Canon doesn’t take him seriously into account yet.
He has added a FAQ about it:
http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ#Has_Canon_contacted_you.3F
We hope someone inside Canon contact him.
i too am one of those that has been obsessing over this for a long time, i’ll be pretty unhappy if they dont put the 60p feature in there, its looking more and more like it wont be.. that being said, we are extremely fortunate that we got manual control plus the 24/25p feature… a lot of other companies would have just waited for the next product update.
ah forget it! dam you canon give me my 60p!!!!
;)
I do not want to learn to use autoiso, I spent 2.500 euro to avoid to learn that, I like to take pictures with the less technical effort, but the most emotional pleasure. Someone loves all manual, someone not, at least hundred people who think like me and who are Client of Canon for now.
Corect Autoiso takes 1 second to Canon, unbelievable…
Good piece of work CR guy!
Who made that picture? It was not me…
Buy a P&S noob.
I’m so happy,
All i wanted was 24fps,
Do you guy’s think that the new Sound options disable the ridicules audio Auto gain?
unless they announce a new full frame camera soon i’m buying another one or two 5D body’s,
i like the idea of changing camera’s instead of lenses on a shoot.
anyone wants to buy a Varicam H? :-) i’m done with 2/3 chips.
Maybe foolish question but can this fireware increase the 3.9FPS to 7D 8FPS or anything higher than 3.9FPS?
Erm no it doesnt, in Av and Tv mode the rear thumb wheel controls exposure compensation
maybe they could just have it use whatever EC was set before entering into M mode, granted that makes it more of a pain in the neck to adjust EC but still you have it at east which matters more
yes, of course
why not?
if they had it 12 months ago and it had nothing to do with campaigns why wouldn’t it havebeen out 12 months ago?
it seems it took a major compaign to get a public release
i find it hard to believe that is true since it would be soooo unlike canon, or any of the camera companies, but if so, wow, they are really springing ahead of everyone and getting with the modern age!
no
1. the mirror/shutter are a slow design and would fly apart at 8fps
2. a single digic IV can not do 21MP at 8fps
3. the buffer memory is probably not quite fast enough either, although who knows
Please do join at facebook.
The sooner the better!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/25p-for-Canon-5d/197128735705?v=photos&ref=ts#!/pages/25p-for-Canon-5d/197128735705?v=info&ref=ts
Wonderful blog, some fascinating points. I remember 2 of days ago, I have visited a similar post.
Regrettably the update from 1.1.0 to 1.1.1 cannot install. Tried twice with Kingston 1024MB CF and SanDisk 512MB CF. Both with 5d000111.fir on the root. The camera cannot read the file and aborts before trying to update.
Does anyone know if canon have plans to increase the AEB feature so that it will take 5 shots rather than the 3 ?
For me its still the only reason why I would use magic lantern :(
Mark
So I just stopped at Precision camera in Austin tx, and the sales associate CONFIRMED from his canon representative that the the 72060p function would be available in TWO weeks. Can anyone back up this confirmation? I was aware that they would not be coming out with it.