*UPDATE* 5D Mark III [CR1]

that’s always how it goes… me too, jsut got my mk ii in sep

— We want to state that Canon DOES HAVE a Firmware for the 5D Mark II with 720p60 mode.

If they change their mind and don’t release it to the public, that’s another story… As SO MANY features (for Stills & Video) that CAN be added via Firmware Update but they seem not willing to do.

So a new campaign to request them may come soon.

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I´ll buy yours..

No matter if this is CR1, i think we can be sure that the next version will have 7D like AF. No matter if it’s still on a 3yr cycle or not.

Trust me (I’m a doctor), the next “5” will become the “7Ds”, without a doubt, the 5D line is dead in the water……
Canon will release the firmware as promised but the “3 year cycle” will go out the window, as will the never to be released 3D (much flaunted by the so called fan-boy’s) until Canon as a direct opposite from any brand, will it consider such a body.

>>Bigman, So you are saying that the 5D line will simply die? And the 7D will be the new line based on a merge between 5D and 7D?

I’d buy that actually. Sound fair enough. But i am still hacing a hard time with it. There are sooo many 5D’s out there. It’s a killer success for Canon. And the name itself 5D has almost become a brand of it’s own. So killing it and beginning to call it 7D will be a big step. Up or down i dont know…

That camera would be *really* near to the camera of my dreams. I need an upgrade and I can’t wait. So I think I’ll buy an used 50D to save some money, waiting for 5D3. When it will cost about 2500 euros, it will be mine!! :) :)
I need more CR rating PLEASEEEEE!! :)

Dunno about that…the AF on the much older 40d had more cross sensor AF points than the 5d Mk2 and was much more accurate in low light IMHO.

Sorry, but if you have both 7D and 5D2, you can clearly see the 5D2 gives you better stills, especially in low light.

7D has higher pixel density, a stronger noise reduction, but not better image quality than 5D2

Not to mention the crop factor that changes all your focal lengths in practice. Never going to get so wide angles with a 7D.

Those who say “5D line is dead” are completely wrong…

I’d buy a camera that fell between the 5Dmk2 and 7D… Something that was FF, but only say 15mp, and had the features of the 7D… I’d pay like $1999 for the body… I really want to like the 7D, but it’s just noisy… And the 5Dmk2 is a little expensive for a hobbiest… I love the video features and meter/AF of the 7D but the FF/IQ of the 5Dmk2… Why can’t they produce a cheap FF?

***We want to state that Canon DOES HAVE a Firmware for the 5D Mark II with 720p60 mode.***

Are you making this up or do you have some information to back up this claim ?

Manual focus is disastrous on the 7D, and you can’t change the screen. If the 5D3 has a good AF system but no interchangeable focus screens, then Canon will have a perfect record for only ever making cameras where at least one thing is a dealbreaker. The 1 series are too big and heavy. The others are all crops. 5D is Canon’s only small camera big sensor option. If the 5D3 has no interchangeable screen, and therefore no reliable manual focus, and there is no other full-frame light-body Canon, I will finally be forced to dump all my fancy L glass and switch away in disgust.

its simple. because they DON’T WANT. to quote from the movie “The dark knight” “If you’re good at something, never do it for free” If they can sell a fullframe camera for 2600$ why should they sell it for 2000$? And trust me, they know what they are doing.

I’m not saying 5D2 is bad, but it could be even better based on the difference between 50D and 7D.

Particularly in shadow regions at extreme high ISO there’s banding in the 5D2 output, like there is in the 50D output, but gone from 7D. Whatever they did between the 50D and 7D to remove it, I hope they do for the 5D3 too. I know this is an extreme condition, but one I do use now and then…

The only things missing for the D700 is more MP (12MP), little more FPS from 5 FPS to 8 FPS and video….the D700 already has pro AF and proper seals….the rumor for the D800 is a 18MP FF sensor…and if Nikon uses the same technology for the D3S it will have great high ISO….Nikon then needs to step-up and add video the same as the 7D…..and there would be my perfect camera.

Canon finally stepped-up with the 7D AF, let’s hope Canon doesn’t do something stupid on the 5D3 AF.

The 5D2 came out Fall 2008, 3 years cycle would be Fall 2011, if Canon moves that up 6 months it’s Spring 2011….the rumored D800 is for Summer 2010….that would put Nikon out a good 9 months before Canon has a response….I would hope Canon will do better than that, so the earliest is Fall 2010 at the very best.

We don’t “make things up” at all.

It cracks me up that the 5D2 has only 3.9 FPS….well here’s to holing Canon puts in dual Digic 4 processors and see if Canon can’t get the FPS up,

Let’s see the 7D does 8 FPS times 18MP or 144 per second equals 21mp at 6.86 FPS…..so lets hope for 6.5 FPS.

For me….I would like Canon to lower the MP from 21 to 18mp and boost the FPS to 8….but I’m willing to trade MP for FPA and big pixels for great high ISO.

Yeah, I know, the N fanbois just want it to “better” the C model’s specs. IMO, 24MP would be overkill except to say it has more MP than the 5DMkII, and the “more megapixel” mantra is Canon’s MO.

At the end of the day, I just want one camera for all my needs (FF, landscape, low light/available light, sports, portraits, macro). Imagine the 5DMkII sensor in a 7D, maybe with selectable limits on Auto ISO, and possibly EC in M mode? Yeah, I’m dreaming…

Absolutely agree. Still a lot of people out there buying 5D Mk II’s. Would be silly for Canon to not milk their sales a bit longer and offer a solid firmware update, hopefully including 60p..

standard screens don’t show the true DoF of any lens faster than 2.8

that is why there is the option to switch out a focusing screen and drop in the Eg-S, its optimized for lenses f1-f2.8 (and arguably f4)

So, Canon got wind of the upcoming Nikon D700X or D800? ;)

I understand KatzEye is developing focusing screen for the 7D: http://www.katzeyeoptics.com/. So, this should not be an issue.

I also believe D700 (Nikon’s ‘lightweight’ FF body) uses a transmissive screen in the optical viewfinder just like the 7D/D300. So, you may have to go down the Sony route despite their noisy sensors. ;)

Even if the 5DIII release is pushed ahead, it will be nearly impossible to get one for another 1.5 years. That’s too long a wait for most people.

I do not believe this. Will Canon kill the coming 1D24 with this 5D3?

Hopefully the prestige of the 1 series will be enough to make the rich buy it over the 5D III.

OK, seriously… If the 1Ds IV comes out with ridiculously high MP, the 5D III could be something like a 7D with a 21 MP full-frame sensor. Only thing is, that might make the 1D IV less appealing…

1 D IV is for us bird and sport guys or gals.

5DIII with 7D AF…Sounds great. Now all I want to know is how much is it going to cost me?

Finally, seeing some light at the end of the tunnel… =)

Surely Digic V will be ready by 5D3 time.

That may allow radically higher quality video (if rumors are true and it has more video processing and can properly downsample the sensor to video resolutions).

A single Digic V could probably drive 21MP at 6.5fps. However, there is always the chance they will use the 1Ds4 sensor at 32MP and and again be stuck at maybe 4.3fps. Of course even if they did that they could put in dual-digic V, digic don’t cost much anything and a little more buffer and all, it’s not the end of the world, if it ups the price a little bit, whatever, it’s worth it to get at least 6.3fps (although dual-digic V might be able to do as much as 8fps at 32, perhaps). Anyway who knows exactly how fast dual-digic V will be, but surely there is some combo of at least 21MP and Digic V that could easily do 6.3fps. They would probably fear going to 8fps for a non-series because they don’t want to start losing too many crazy priced $5000 1D4 in addition to some 1Ds4.

Of course they also need something better than the 1970’s mirror/shutter that has been in both the 5D and 5D2. But there is no way that it is not possible to get it to at least 6.3fps, for not more than maybe $100-300 extra, I’d think.

I wouldn’t want less than 21MP since you lose too much reach, but I’d rather have 21MP and 6.3fps than 32MP and 3.9fps.

Of course if they don’t reuse the 1ds4 sensor (minus the fancy way they do the filter sealing) and make a new 21MP with the new tech or a new 27-28MP sensor that might add some cost though. If they reuse the 32MP (?) 1Ds4 sensor one would pray they don’t hold back on dual-digic V and even if they don’t push it to the max and give 8fps at least give it 6.3fps.

They have been awfully paranoid about protecting the bulky 1 series though.

Indeed the D800 could be a total canon killer, a nice small body, 18-24MP, 6.5fps, top pro AF, perhaps finally solid video. Only the 100% dedicated action shooter who absolutely must have 8+ fps would be upset with that. Maybe a few 100% bird shooters who never have enough reach and could use higher density than that. otherwise….

Because shooting an f/1.4 lens looks like maybe f/5.6, at best, through the viewfinder and it’s totally impossible and it’s pretty unverving when you can’t even get any inkling even for f/2.8 lenses, whether it is nailing the focus on the proper spot of not when using AF.

Almost no SLR has ever been more limited in using the VF to judge things. SOme others have been as bad or worse with the stock screen but you could at least get something at least a little better as a replacement.

Even a 5D2 with a custom screen makes under f/2 or so tough, but that’s still world’s better than the 7D.

but the way nikon does it, it is apparently easy to replace the necessary part, i thought nikon even offered alternate screens themselves

May be they would offer 8fps with grip.

They will sell like hot breads until nikon comes out with a do-it-all 18/20 mp camera. Canon is aware of this and that could be the reason they are bringing the revision quicker.

really looking forward to the Mark 3, current AF is ancient

Already ? lol I was preparing my bank account to get the 5D mark II with a 24-105 :)

In fact, it’s just the innovation of competitors that serves the customers of a given Brand. If there is no competition or barely no serious competition, Canon sense of business is far sharper than Nikon’s or Sony : The target is not to make good camera in a purerely photographic meaning, but optimize an industrial process targeted at making money. So : Acceptability margin in pro Lenses (hence the success of Lens Alignment tools), acceptability margins in pro bodies…and we don’t speak about the entry-level line which are basically made on production lines with similar scale reliability.

Having understood that, it’s easy to understand why the firmware is not issued yet, why no camera is really perfect (at least Canon’s) and why profitable choices are made, instead of photographic, or purely technical improvement – choices. Recycle 5D AF on 5D2 ? Good saving, 5D2 is targetted at portraitist, landscape, and some wedding stuff. No need for a terrific AF that will need resources to be developped…so less profitability. They are not to be blamed, we, customers have access to terrific technologies, huge ISO performances (made from sensors small improvements, but most importantly math algorithms of picture processing and noise detection formulas), and general all-round performances. The price to pay is that such a company, with financial ressources to fuel this R&D, has to be profitable and so accept that 80 / 20 rule = You spend 80 % of your time achieving the final 20% of a camera’s performance. Another comment : Look at Leica, all hand made, very strict reliability and default margins, but the M9 is 2-3 times more expensive than a 5D2, the “math/picture processing/sensors improvement features” are bad in comparison in Leica (look at a M9 1250 iso picture…let’s wait for DxO…). They don’t have the ressource to invest R&D in sensors, image processing improvement and Raw Un-matrixing refinements (look at the differents results from D3X and Alpha 900 with only some small differences in the sensors…).

So this rumors might be launched by someone on purpose…but why ? From who? It’s the interest of Nikon users to see the success of Video in Canon’s cameras, and some very good sales in Lenses such as the F4 line (17-40, 24-105…),these are the really missing features, and Nikon will probably issue these lenses this year. It’s the interest of Canon user to see switching and Nikon getting shares because the business managers will be forced to invest more R&D, and check more boxes for Canon new cameras…Unfortunately, I cannot see any reason why this rumors would have been launched by canon side…make Nikon react? It’s already on the way. But from someone with interest in Nikon gears…yes : Force Nikon to even more buff the cameras to come…

19 AF points like the 7D sounds good, but the actual frame coverage of the 7D AF system doesn’t seem to be any higher than the XXDs (or Rebels, for that matter). Extrapolating on to the 5D series, this would still leave a small cluster of (albeit better) AF points in the centre.

OK. Game over.

RedScarlet FF is coming…. [Summer 2010] .

……CANON and NIKON again be….Photo + plus video “comsumer” “comsumer” “comsumer” “comsumer” “comsumer” “comsumer”

5DM2 , 1DM4….expected decreases sales 50% .

sorry, my English is very bad [google traslator]

Alek

I’m not planning to use the video for professional purposes. So I don’t think 24fps is important to me. However, I think I would have enjoyed 720p/60 for the slow mo effect. Bummer.

I know, I smell sulphur and lava and angels are getting ready to move the righteous to higher ground..

Relax dude..

You need to focus video?? Seriously, the resolution of video means that accurate focussing of wide aperture lenses is not very critical, and perfectly compatible with the LCD’s resolution.

Liveview is not a solution to the problem of focussing f2 lenses for stills because the screen is too slow to update for a lot of typical fast lens work. It’s way faster than Nikon’s liveview, but still a long way from being instant like the optical finder. The 7D’s mandatory screen shows that Canon is giving up on manual focus, except perhaps for the 1 series. That means I will quit EOS, as manual focus is at least as important as AF for a serious photographer.

Who are you taht you can claim that? I am serious^^.
Are you somehow connected to Canon? A dealer…?
Who or what are you?
You know it is not very believable if a nobody claims that.

Its said to be released march/april timeframe.

That was the mentioned time frame in one of the developers meetings. Heard nothing about it anymore ever since…. (status as of early december).

isnt it clear? there are for sure beta testers out there, testing the II with a firmware which is able to make 720p/60
i read somewhere that 720/60 might have a stronger jello effect. maybe they wont release it because of this.

but still i hope for it…would be really cool

Something that people here have completely forgotten with regards to Nikon D700 superiority over 5D Mark II is Nikon’s fantastic, non-detail-destroying chroma control at ISO 800 and above. From the test samples I have seen on the net, from ISO 3200 to 6400, D700 has virtually no chroma noise while 5D Mark II is bleeding red chroma spots all over shadow area.

If the new 5D3 is to inherit 7D Autofocus system, I’m sure as hell hope they also adopt its color-based metering because I think all other Canon bodies including the 1D series are color blind. LOL !! Shorter shutter lag, shorter blackout, and quieter mirror slap are all welcome. Also, those who buy 5D bodies don’t need higher burst speed: 4fps is enough.

Wireless flash commander is also an area which Canon need to catch up with Nikon. 7D does the right thing in including this feature to the delight of many Canon shooters. But what good a flash commander in a body meant for outdoor sports and wildlife photography? LOL !! Canon 5D, mostly used by portrait photographers, would benefit from using a wireless controller. LOL !!

I see that Canon 7D does a lot of things right, and make a lot of Canon shooters happy. But 5D mark II Full Frame sensor is still better at high ISO, and its classic field-of-view (50mm is 50mm) will still appeal to enthusiasts and pros alike.

if 5D3 is just another marketing-based incremental update, I think I will sell all my Canon stuff and get a Nikon D700.

Please go and sell your Canon cameras…hurry…Canon doesn’t need you.

Wonder what all the Canon apologists say to that?

It has been stated regularly that the lonely Digic4 in the current 5DMII is unable to bring that camera up to snuff with firmware.

The recent price cut was a great move (and I bought one) but Canon finally is starting to get they need to address that segment of the market with a new model – ASAP.

As you correctly state, this has always been the situation in the past; however, that was then and this is now. The situation in the past has always been Canon being at least on-par, if not slightly ahead. Canon seem to be waking up to the fact that Nikon are aggresively trying to re-gain market share by offering the best camera they can at a given price point. Perhaps they will realise that they cannot keep on intentionally crippling cameras in order to position them in their own product range, but need to make them comparable to the competition. If they fail to deliver with their next generation of high-end cameras, Canon risk losing the professional market that they worked so hard in the past to win over.

Will the mk III solve all of my problems?

nice! I would like to see this happen, so I can pick up a Mk II :)

Sir, please do not kid yourself. Get the Powershot A480 before your brain short-circuits from all the thinking.

Wow, this is really weird. After I read the comments here I went and checked my 5Dii and it still works! Then I realized that I would really like to take some 720p footage at 60fps and I felt terribly disappointed that I did not wait!

So, long story short, I time traveled back to 2003 and found myself taking some pictures with a 10D and I told myself to stop because that camera stinks compared to what is coming and I should wait for this really great 5Diii so I can be more awesome as a photographer.

I’ll update you when the time-lines cross.

Your point? did you get it for video? Are you not able to take good pics with it? Are you not going to take many pics in the next YEAR?

UPDATE II: Just had a visit from myself from 2014. He said that the 5D mark IV will be much better than the mark III, so we should all just hold tight for the announcement in early 2014.

I think the point is…the current 5dmk2 is amazing enough for its time and more, I use it on everything and shoot everything with it, video and stills…this camera will be useable for as long as you want it to be, get one now, use it now, then sell it when you need to or use it as an awesome second body or even turn it IR! Imagine 21mp IR video…..yummy!!! its not disappointed me yet….

and why stop dreaming at 60fps?
why cant we have the fuji High Speed Movie 60/120/240/480/1000fps? even a samsung mobile phone has forms of HD with fast and slow speeds.OK and loads of jelly!

I’m just hoping canon give us all the magic lantern toys and canon toys together…Those ML dudes are great!

I bought the 5dmk2 knowing it was going to be my new second body for whatever is to come…but if canon ‘fk’ us over on the firmware, I’m going nikon…UUUUURGH! >SHUDDERS< PLEASE CANON DON'T MAKE ME BUY THAT NOISEY ODD COLOURED JUNK!!!

@Bigman: “What could/would Canon add to a 5diii that the ii hasn’t got?”

A decent autofocus system?

Lower noise at higher ISOs?

If “the high ISO race is at an end” as you claim, it’s because Canon ceded it to Nikon: http://www.neutralday.com/canon-eos-1d-mark-iv-vs-nikon-d3s-iso-comparison/

Exactly, it’s *far* more important to protect short term profitability than to push the high end with R&D spending.

/sarcasm

The D3s distinctly beats the 1DIV for noise, so I submit that for Canon to “keep” the noise low, they’d have to get it there in the first place.

^ increasingly tempted to jump camps

Question answered above… :)

For sure the EOS3D will get better AF and a FF then the 5D.
But if you look back at the past it has been 1 5 7 and then the 3 series within the prosumer range

well… it would be nice if they boosted the FPS, but it doesn’t “sound right” to me when I repeat a speck like that to myself, I think canon would simply be too wary of it affecting the 1 series sales, I mean after all even the 1ds MKIII isn’t 6.5 fps, I could see canon pushing the 5d to maybe 4.5 or even 5 fps… but I’d personally rather see the sync speed go up to 250th instead.

How ever if all they do is add a 7d like AF, keep resolution at 21 mp or greater have high iso improved along with DR and potentially boost the video and handling features like the 7d I’d buy it in a heart beat. On top of that it would be nice to see the same w/sealing as on the 7d and I’d really like them to finally put a slightly better mirror box in too.

That’s a great view….Canon should quit improving cameras needlessly, and photographers with true “vision” should all be using pinhole cameras.

!!!! true but lol!!

anyway, the post was interesting and from a marketing prospective of view, made sense too

but still,
LOL

Well unless you can provide some further information I hope you don’t mind if I place this in the box marked B.S.

: P

Yes, including getting rid of all poverty and ending all wars.

also an improved AF will also be welcomed

But that’s my point…the 3d is really a 5diii…when most people write about what they envision for a 3d, it really matches the wish list for the 5diii.

Let’s also face reality: there has not been one single even half way decent rumor about a 3d; it’s all been speculation on the part of us Canon fans.

The D3 has proved FF can go 9-10 FPS…the 7D has proved that a lot of data can be moved through the camera.

Canon just need to pony-up and do it.

No problem at all, place wherever you want.

We can’t provide proofs nor further information on that (at least not yet).

Sources must remain anonymous.

We can only tell what does not compromise anybody.

It’s really hard to get something tangible, to show to the public, that wouldn’t compromise the source… And we MUST respect the confidentiality of the source and protect him/her from any possible tracking.

lol. i bought the mk ii yesterday.

Thanks for your comments guys. HDR is not the only thing need my camera for (but it is important to me). I currently have a rather dated Rebel XT which is struggling to deal with some things, like low light stuff, I will be upgrading at somepoint in the next couple of months. Probably to a 7d.. although it depends on what the 5d mkii firmware update provides and when/if it comes out…

I see that SWPP (UK based Society for Wedding and Portrait Photographers) have voted the EOS 5D Mk2 as their camera of the year 2009. As semi-professionals, wedding and portrait ‘togs were the main target market for this camera, it seems Canon did their market research quite well. However, there has arisen a sizeable lobby asking for something better – the possibly mythical 3D. “We KEEP telling you there’s no demand for this camera!”

+1

And if the predictions at nikonrumors are right, then in a couple of days we’ll see the beginning of Nikon’s offensive in one fo teh very last fields where Canon is still superior – hi-grade F4 zooms and F1.4 primes. If the rumored new 24mm F1.4 and the 16-35mm F4 are up to par and not way too expensive, this will show Nikon checking the last box which keeps many Canon shooters from switching.

For me, adding to the two lenses above a near-perfect 70-200mm F4VR at a competitive price (on condition that it actually is a 200mm in the long end, and not more like 135mm at short focus distances like the 70-200 F2.8VRII) would be the last drop, since the D700 is already everything that I dream in a camera.

This latest offensive on the lens front is what, to my mind, will have Canon finally move and offer a D700/3D/whatever to compete.

When you say that Canon will release a new 7D with autofocus, I assume you mean the 2nd gen 7D will have autofocus in video mode?

Sony will never offer a good video solution on the DSLR’s as it will cannibalise the sales of both HD video solutions the low end HDV/XDCAM cameras and the very high end Cinealta systems.

This is one of the main reasons everyone doing film has been so excited by the 5DII, Canon ignored product protection and has given people new tools for quality production on a budget.

One of the best moves in mass technology in the last decade for both profit margins and consumers, other corporations would be wise to take note.

guys!! sory this is gonna be out of the topic but i want ur opinions and feed back=[ 70-200mm 2.8 IS mark 1 and 2. the mark to is tooo expensive or i should jsut shut up and get the mark 1.

is mark 1 good enough?

feed backs please TQ =]

PS 5D Mk3 would do goof if it’s real

Hahaha! the more people want something the more gullible they get! Thanks for the confirming this 5D Mark II TEAM.

what we are missing is more competition …someone should enter and produce a type of a FF 7Ds, with extended High ISO’s to usable ISO 51200, at US $ 2.000. Unlikely…I know…

You sound like an idiot who’s never tried to pull focus on one of these cams at f2 or lower. Please, get a clue, focusing off the LCD (unless in 5x or 10x) is not easy at all.

I expected this. I decided a while ago that the 7D was so much in advance of the 5D2 is some areas that a 5D3 couldn’t be far off. Mind you, I think the same is true of the 1D4, and I wouldn’t buy that either – the 1D5 won’t be far off.

I already have a 5D Classic and was going to add a 7D to it; I think maybe I’ll wait for the 5D3 and buy a cheapish Nikon instead.

Totally agree Peter.

Man, do I ever want that firmware update to include 720/60. I will be very disappointed if it does not.

Excellent points and well said, MM. The art of photography is about our talent, not the toys.

And for all those who are having 7D dreams, consider it carefully. I’ve been a Canon shooter for 31 years; loved the equipment, rave about to everyone, and never returned a camera in my life. Until now. The 7D was a huge disappointment — and I had been prepared to really love it. Yes, it’s feature-rich, but can’t shoot a sharp image without a flash or bright, bright sun. Not even on a tripod. And handheld is a joke. Noisy, not sharp, not acceptable. Finally, in frustration, I ran the 7D through a controlled series of tests on a tripod using duplicate lighting conditions and duplicate settings. Used all the same lenses on it and an XTi. The XTi images were tack sharp and the 7D shots were soft, soft, soft. Blew me away — I had heard the rumors and thought those folks got a bad camera or didn’t know what they were doing. Wrong. The proof was in the prints. I shipped it back with a set of my test prints and a letter taking Canon to task for putting out such an inferior product. I got a full refund.

Now happily waiting for Canon to put the 19 focus points of the 7D on the 5D-Mk3. THEN we’ll have something to rave about. And the moral of the story is — it’s not the camera that makes the great shots, it’s the photographer. So enjoy your toys and work at your art.

I have a concern after finding and reading this forum. After waiting many years to get a digital SLR I just ordered a Canon EOS 5D Mark II to replace my 35mm Canon EOS 10s and to take better pictures than the relative cheap Pentax optical zoom camera I have. Although expensive it seemed to finally be what I was looking for and I like to get something good that will last a long time. I have read about the concerns about some of the shortcomings of the Mark II, particularly with video recording. I have taken video with my pentax digital camera and like the way it automatically focuses (which is particularly helpful at times when I include myself in the video). I understand this feature might not be available with the Mark II. Well, since I plan to take a long awaited trip out west where I will be taking a lot of photos starting the second week in June I just ordered the 5D Mark II. I thought this would give me a few months to be familiar with how to use it. It should be on its way now from B&H photo and arrive in a few days. I found this forum and a few others that say the replacement for the Canon 5D Mark II, the 5D Mark III may be out soon. I am a bit nervous and concerned after just spending so much on a camera that may now be shortly replaced with a model which may outdate it and fix many of its shortcomings. This is a major investment for me but would like something where I can take good nature and scenic photography this June. Does anyone have any advice or thoughts?

Some of you guys are high if you think the 5D line is dead.

I wouldn’t use a POS 1.6x cropped body if someone gave it to me for free…unless I wanted flat looking photos that appear to be taken with what could have been any other consumer 1.6x digital camera ever made. AF on the 5D line isn’t great, but center point AF works good enough. Buy a 5D II or even the original 5D and go shoot. I guarantee the 5D III isn’t going to make your mediocre photos any better…not even the 5D II will help.

Congrats, you made an excellent purchase. Now, read manual and learn this tool, it is an awsum piece of equip. push it to its limits and you will see what can be done. experiment with it before your trip and you will be amazed. i shoot all canon, 5d MKII, 1ds MKIII, and to many lenses to tell,lol. the 5d M2 can hold its own against the 1ds MIII, hell, i rarely ever use the MIII anymore and that camera is supposed to be better in AF, in my opionon only slightly. again, learn the camera and you will simply be stunned at its IQ. its awsum !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I heard they’re working on Eyenon microchip camera that will be placed inside eyes from in near future. Upgrades will be done surgical way and guaranteed by monthly/yearly subscription. 3D blue-tooth photo/video transfer to social media sites. Eyenon camera will be able to reproduce low light condition in total dark + full night vision.

Motion detection and 3D video recording while eyes are closed.

(sorry I have not more time…)

Bad argument.

The current level of digital cameras allow us to work in conditions that would not have been possible before. What matters is not what we could or couldn’t do 30 years ago, but what is possible today with the equipment available today. And that’s why the inferior (relative to contemporary competition) AF system of the 5D2 is so annoying. Throwing away photos because the outer AF points on this camera are virtually useless in low light – when the conditions make using focus-recompose with the center point unusable – is not something we should have to put up with in a $2500 camera in 2010. The outer points on the 7D are far better, but that camera isn’t as good in low light as the 5D2.

For the poster above, complaining about the 7D: you just proved exactly the opposite point from the one you intended. Even with your talent, the 7D did not give you sharp images. Did you lose all your skill when you switched from the XTi to the 7D? No, of course not. EQUIPMENT MATTERS!!!! A talented photographer will produce better photos with the same camera as someone not as skilled, but the talented photographer may not do as well as an equally talented photographer if his/her camera isn’t as well-designed as the camera of the other skilled photographer. When your camera is properly aimed for example, with the AF sensor over your subject, and the camera does not focus properly, it’s an EQUIPMENT problem! This becomes even more clear if a camera from a different manufacturer produces properly focuses photos under the same conditions. These are tools. Some tools are simply better than other tools. In this case, our 5D2 tool is lacking a current-level AF system. Upgrade the AF on the 5D2, and it’ll be a much more useful piece of equipment.

It’s not all about equipment, I know. But face it, you won’t get Pro-Style wedding shots with a point-and-click.

I’d like to know too as I am ready to move up from 5D and wanted the expanded ISO, greater MP and video capability.

Now after reading all this I wonder if I should cancel my order and wait. I don’t want to be buying a product that will be updated in a few months to 30MP and higher ISO with absolutely no issue of noise at any level.

There are times when I find something interesting in an exposure that was not the main subject and would be nice to blow up. Higher MP would make this better. When will this end and what is the maximum MP possible?

What to do? Yes, I know the 5DM2 is a great camera and will produce tremendous results but I still don’t want to find out my camera has been replaced with a better version for less cost in a month from now. Yes, I should have bought the 5DM2 when it was introduced and I would not be so concerned. I would have had years of usage before being updated.

Love this reply!!!!! Some people take things too seriously.

Yes. The fact that CR has not posted a thing about it means that we know now exactly what we knew in February.

What do you mean Andy, that they are making one or not????

My Canon 5d2 is so good that sometimes I don’t even bother to take off the lens cap, its that awesome!

I’m totally agree with you!!!