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First Confirmed Announcement
Canon will be making an announcement February 9, 2010.
No word yet on what will be announced. Expect two different announcement dates.
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New 5DMk2 firmware for enhanced video feature.
Or maybe a 60D?
It would be great to get a 500D firmware update even if just manual controls and nothing else
maybe some new lenses (crosses fingers for 24-70 2.8 IS)
1D MK5.
I’m bored of the Mark 4 !
60D would make sense.
Ah well, Canon have just lost my EVIL money! Not prepared to wait until February to maybe hear about the possible release of a reluctant first attempt at an EVIL model from Canon.
By the time any Canon offering emerges Olympus will be well advanced towards their third model in that market and Panasonic their fourth. That’s useful experience gained.
I expect Canon to do what they’ve always done. Proceed at at the slowest pace the market will stand and drip feed controlled incremental releases to get the consumer dollars round after round. Good glass though.
Zuiko here I come.
Canon is a huge company and digital imaging is just a small part of it. The announcements can be about a lot of different things not even related to DSLRs.
“Ah well, Canon have just lost my EVIL money”
Canon is terrified by losing 0.0000001% of the 0.01% market.
“I expect Canon to do what they’ve always done. Proceed at at the slowest pace the market will stand and drip feed controlled incremental releases to get the consumer dollars round after round.”
You mean except those times when Canon is THE absolute market leader and makes products that leave everything else in the dust?
One cannot satisfy all people all the time – by being the early adopter Canon would piss off those who want perfection. By waiting Canon annoys those who want quick solutions. Well, life is a terrible experience for those who expect a lot from it.
How about a 550D already?! My source (at the end of my Colon) says it will have a 12.1 MP sensor, 1080P x 25fps video, articulating screen (same resolution as the G11), peripheral illumination correction, in-camera HDR, and a pez dispensing port.
It’s the 1Ds4…
1Ds Mark IV? Well I could wish… XD
Michal, I think you have correctly identified that Canon simply could not care less whether or not I spend my money with them.
I’m in agreement with you.
I’m still waiting for a six color channel camera for realistic flesh tones. I also want a brick camera. Maybe a 5D mark II with an EF-s mount, no mirror, no viewfinder, and an NIC address.
70-200 F2.8L is MKII..may be
It will probably be nothing usefull anyway, all i need is a full frame DSLR with a very good autofocus that doesnt cost the earth, somthing like a D700 for instance but with an EF mount so that i can use my lens collection. Everything Canon relese these days has a compromise so u will always have to buy 2 camera’s to get what you need. Trouble is u can only use one F__King camera at a time.
there’s only one camera due to be anounced: the mythical 3D ;-)
Wasn’t there a rumor in the Fall about a new Speedlite coming this winter? I say it’s that.
Its just a rumor
Well, the 500D is not even a year old, so I think you’ll be waiting a while longer.
I smell a refresh to their internationally popular line of calculators, now with Direct Print buttons.
I agree.
The D700 is looking mighty tempting. This summer when I’m ready to get a new camera I really hope Canon has released something I’m interested in. The 7D is awesome, but 18mp is not. Not for my uses. If they up the mp on the 60D, when and if it’s released, than I think I’m going to buy a Nikon.
Wow, all they do now is make announcements. They don’t actually ship anything. Cool business model.
5DII firmware update is unlikely. This is an *announcement* of a product release (not a product release) . . . . they have already announced that the 5DII firmware will be coming along eventually, they have no need to announce it again !!
No 60D in the making… Sorry
(60D = 7D learn to live with it)
This announcement is for:
1) New entry model
2) New lens line-up
Not so much. The xxxD line has been upgraded at the following intrevals:
300D to 350D = 18 months
350D to 400D = 18 months
400D to 450D = 17 months
450D to 500D = 14 months
Since the 500D sucks, I suspect they’ll replace it sooner rather than later.
Dude.30fps 1080p firmware update on the 500d! 24fps suck..cant even get a decent slow motion on it.i upload videos via youtube on 720p.1080 will be decent..
I’ve been waiting for this one for two years. I would place an order immediately. Would a 24-105L 2.8 IS be possible? Anyone know? what about a price? $2500?
They could add a 640×480 movie function to the calculator too!
canon 60D….. !!!
i have it from a source i trust.. i have sex with him.
The 7D is not the 60D – Canon has repeatedly stated this….
You are seeing the xxd line downsized in either features or body size to compete directly with the d90 class nikons while the 7D hopefully can stay ahead of the d300 class nikons…
this is possibly the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Canon has consistently been ahead of the curve. Building small cameras that have 2 or three native lenses is not a big tech step forward…
If/when canon comes out with a small camera hopefully it will have an assortment of pancake lenses that you can actually purchase rather than the dribble that Olympus and Panasonic have releases….
you are trying to make it as though he is proving your point when instead he was saying that that market is not profitable right now and Canon can not spend money trying to make you happy when it has a large majority to take care of…
1Ds Mk III and 50D are both ready for replacement, but the 1000D is also fairly old. The 500D is really competitive and I can’t see any reason to replace it now.
wow cool!…
Since there is no CR rating I suppose this is official information. So could someone provide a link to the source, please?
I hope they do something decent soon or I’m jumping ship to MF Back. I don’t even know if I can wait till Feb.
The xxD cameras already compete with the D90 camera and somewhat poorly at that. The D90 offers serious value among cameras.
You’re right. No need to replace 500D now. Can wait awhile, even next year if you ask me.
What sucks about the 500D?
I think you’ll get a 32mp 1Ds4 very soon. February sounds about right for an announcement. If Canon puts in a bigger sensor you’ll be very happy. Even if they don’t a 32mp 36X24 sensor could still be very nice.
I was NOT talking about 500D
450D is EOL (500D will stay current)
I clearly said a entry model….
No need to replace 500D yet
No need to replace 60D yet – might harm 7D sales too much and 500D is marketwise running fine.
All those waiting for a 60D, you can still wait for a long time to come! (expect a 8 to 12 month wait still ahead)
Please, don’t tell us you’re gay
They will need to announce the firmware when it arrives with additional 720p 60fps.
What stopping you from shooting sRAW1 or small Jpeg?
Admit it you are a Nikon fanboy.
Which is why Canon, again, has to step-up their game. The 60D has to be a game changer, just like the 7D was a game changer.
And the 5D3/3D has to be a game changer, as the Nikon D700 replacement is only missing MP and video, it already has pro AF, small weather sealed body with optional grip.
Not to mention Nikon’s 14-24 2.8 and 200-400 f/4.
From Thom’s web site
http://www.bythom.com/
Always a good read, even if I use Canon
“When Does Panic Set In?
Dec 29 (commentary)–The Japanese camera makers see their own camera market (i.e. sales in Japan) very well. Too well. They often over-rely on it to gauge what they should be doing next.
Well, if that’s the case, there must be some panic afoot in Japan. Consider the top 20 selling interchangeable lens cameras in Japan from Jan 1 through Dec 23 (camera models ordered from best selling to worst within brand):
* Canon 37.9% (Kiss2, Kiss3, 50D, 5DII, 7D, 1000D)
* Nikon 28% (D90, D5000, D60, D40, D3000)
* Panasonic 8.5% (G1, GF1, GH1)
* Olympus 4.3% (E-P1, E-520)
* Pentax 4.3% (K-m, K-x)
* Sony 4% (A300, A350)
Those 20 cameras account for 87% of the DSLR sales in Japan. Nikon and Canon do pretty well in the 13% of cameras I haven’t identified so far–add those in and Canon tops 40% and Nikon nears 35%.
Still, we’ve got four m4/3 cameras grabbing 11.5% of the home market. Think that got anyone’s attention? And Pentax’s two low-end models outselling Sony’s. Think that got Sony’s attention? That 5DII being the lone FX body to break the top 20 (at #13 and 2.1%), think that got Nikon’s attention? Or how about the D3000 not living up to its potential (14th and 1.8% for a half year of sales isn’t matching what either the D40 or D60 did)?
Oh, and does video sell DSLRs? #13, #17, and #19 are highly competent HD video cameras (1080i, variable frame rate, etc.). Hard to say, but it doesn’t really look like high end video is truly selling DSLRs en masse yet.
No, the camera companies are atwitter with nervousness. Which is why they should read the following article.”
I use Canon, but am watching the rumors of a Nikon D800…18mp FF in a D700 body…..that just maybe the ticket for me.
cool man buy the d700 seeing as how its discontinued lol.
lol.. idiot.
That’s the trouble with Canon. Everything it releases these days is a compromise.
500D is clearly entry level even if 1000D is cheaper. It’s 50D that needs replacement in Canon’s large volume lineup.
yeah, and a translation engine and a espresso machine for the guys shooting ski races and hockey matches
Would shooting in sRAW1 change the diffraction limits?
I wouldn’t shoot in jpeg.
I also don’t own any Nikon products, I just like the camera. I don’t however like the idea of buying all new lenses.
Oh really? Nikon has it listed on their site. Plus it was just released in 2008. Why would they discontinue such a new camera?
Where did you see that it was discontinued? Link?
Is this a joke?
The 7D is not a game changer, it is barely a match-up to nikon’s d300 line (d300s at present).
pointless…
the advantage of the 24-105 f/4 is its weight… making it 2.8 will cause it to weight like a small tank.
a ~17-85 f/2.8 on the other hand – very useful for 1.6 crop, but will never happened…
+1
Game changer, LOL
What a joke. Someone criticizes the 18MP (ridiculous on a crop sensor) and is automatically labeled a Nikon fanboy.
nikonrumors buddy… new cam coming feb… thom hogan even said so lol. mmm behind the curve i think you are…..
I expect 1Ds4.
I noticed here locally price decrease of 5DMKII and then being scarce as a stock.
60D coming soon will at least be inexpensive, as Canon needs to keep price attractive so ppl don’t leave ship.
It won’t be 500D replacement as that one is newer. But the 60D body vs lenses…which ones this week and which ones in Feb..????? Guessing lenses in Feb.
wow i’ll buy one!
Personally, I hope for lenses, not another camera (unless it’s a 3D I suppose).
Canon have announced the camera I want (1DIV) so I’ll be getting that sometime this year.
I just want a new (mk II) 70-200 2.8L IS (still waiting). The near mythical 24-70 2.8L II/IS and a better long zoom (100-400 II or 200-500). Wouldn’t mind if they released a 35L II as well, but I’d be happy buying the current 35L.
I can understand others wanting a 60D or 1DsIV if that’s what they want. I’d also consider swapping my desire from the 1DIV to a 3D, if the mythical 3D was FF with 7D style AF.
:)
have we given up on the Red-killer?
What if they’re about to announce a dedicated video camera with a full frame sensor, EF mount, and XLR inputs that avoids the 5d2’s downsampling issues–capable of 120p and maybe even capable of shooting RAW at 24 and 30. Hollywood had better shift everything to stereoscopic, because this machine (when it comes) will democratize the medium as never before . . .
Yes, the diffraction limit changes, even if you shoot in RAW (full) and downsample in photoshop.
The efect of the diffraction limit is only visible when you see at 100%.
The final size of the picture (print or screen) determines the diffraction limit.
The more pixels the better, if not need so many, then decreases the resolution of the photo, also lessen the noise, or anything that bothers you.
The medium has already been democratized– the entire market has been turned upside down. Unless you have names in your pic you have to have something insanely good to get sold…
going to ces to test out tuhe new gears.
I like what you’re saying but I’m not sure how that would work. The flange distance is still 44mm even for EF-S lenses. Also EF-S lenses don’t have the coverage for a full frame sensor.
Spoiler,
I suspect that you’ll be proven wrong come Feb 9th regarding the 60D.
Anyway, I don’t believe in arguing over predictions. Let’s wait and see what happens in Feb.
…and kill the source.
Historically, Canon announces new lenses WITH a new DSLR. So, if we hope to have new lenses we should also hope for a new DSLR to be announced. 60D sounds the most likely to me.
Is that the one http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41KNYDXKGSL._SL500_AA280_.jpg =P
any canonrumors readers going?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2776/4243046627_e2f3510e31_o.jpg
That’s your opinion, but this will not happen yet.
The xxD line is a dead horse at this moment. It doesn’t fullfill any role in the current market situation. How would you upgrade the 50D without eating into the 7D?
There is no way to go for the xxD line. The only thing Canon can add to the 60D is video. They can’t upgrade the AF, and adding the megapixels doesn’t make any sense.
I am not so sure. Spoiler could be right though.
How can Canon upgrade their 50D without eating into the 7D?
I don’t see there is a way to go for Canon at this moment.
However Canon can:
First upgrade the 5D2 with better AF and ISO performance
Introduce 60D with low MP Full Frame Sensor. I don’t see Canon doing this the other way round, because you would basically get the old 5D tagged as a 60D.
You’re right, 7D is not a game changer.
However the market sales of 5D2 and 7D easily beat the c**p out of the D700 and D300s in the Japanese market. AND Japanese camera makers pay a LOT of attention to their local market.
We expect a Nikon D900 soon with high MP count. Nikon will not take this lying down. :)
WTH.I need a new cheap 50mm. f1.4 Lens!! Maybe an update!? to 50mm f1.4?(II)?
Yeah.What sucks about 500d?have you done your research darling?the only thing thats not so good in the 500d is 24fps(1080p)
Firmware update on the 500d so it can runs 30fps@1080p!
also a new camera Replacement to the 50d!!
The xxD line is a lame horse. It should be shot.
2010, the year of the EF200-500/f5.6L IS II.
There was version I?
Versus the 450D, please list the improvements to the 500D? And don’t called Crippled HD an improvement.I’d rather have 120fps 640×480 than 20fps 1080.
7D MK2 with these new features:
– Factory calibrated AF
– Proper in-camera algorithm for jpeg generation
– Fixed (less intelligent) Metering System
– Equal or better noise than 300s at ISO400 and up
– Auto ISO in maual mode
LOL, true there are a lot of announcements about anouncements then waits for actual product availability. a FF 60D Feb announcement, maybe product in June?
“Auto ISO in manual mode” – this option sounds like a very good idea.
The 450 is worst than the 500d. because it doesnt have HD Video..dont compare.Crippled HD?Open your eyes darling..who said the 500d cant be updated to run 30fps@1080p?dude..are you day dreaming? Compare HD Video to Nikon..its more vivid and doesnt have that over exposed Look..
add HD Video+12800 ISO to the 450d and its a 500d. for me the 500d is still the best Entry-Level Dslr as of Now..now compare HD with with a crappy video on the d90 and d5000.
i hope for Canon EOS 10000D , with more cheap price .
Fingers crossed. That would be amazing. I think it would be fairly safe to say that they must at least be considering something similar to the Leica S2 (which looks amazing).
It’s not even the more MP I’m after, but the bigger chip and all it’s values. The Phase One camera and Mamiya/Leaf is pretty tempting at the minute…
IMO opinion the only real improvement is the expanded ISO. Everything else seems pretty much the same or similar. And maybe the Digic IV could be considered better as well, I don’t know.
That’s not to say they aren’t nice cameras–I love my 450D.
If that’s true that’s good to know.
A rumor of a replacement camera does not equal a discontinued camera. Either way it’ll be this summer when I’m ready to buy, so this rumored camera may be out by then.
Tell me about it.
Not to mention all I said was 18mp is not appropriate for my needs.
Fanboy’s of any kind are a joke.
If the TV news shows a robber or pedophile in razor sharp focus a little vignetting wont matter. The same would be true for microscopes and Telescopes.
I want a lens to 5DMII with the ability to quickly shift distance and the zoom mode to preset positions. Preferably with the option of remote control. Maybe next year?
They will announce that the firmware will soon be announced so keep buying them 5DMarkII!
7D a game changer? LOL. Maybe great features on a crammed sensor. It was a brilliant marketing move to sell megapixels and at the same time not encroach on the high priced model sales with too good an image quality. They nailed that one.
Glad they added a built in wireless flash – thank Nikon for that.
Completely agree.
Canon is protecting it’s children. A real innovative company will eat their children.
In the PC world, Intel eats their young every 6 months.
LOL.
I love it.
I’m hoping Canon just licenses Nikon equipment and sells Nikon bodies with EF mounts. Problem solved.
You can do a simple test, take one picture at high ISO, and print a small one and a big one. A more simple test, open the same photo in photoshop and see at 100%, at 50%, or 25%, and you can see how the noise will fading away.
Moreover, in the case of the 7D, the noise is more like film grain, which is more pleasant for those who are used to work with analog film.
Repeat the test with a photo at f/22, the same will occur with the diffraction limit, and the lack of resolution of the lens.
But when you go to print a copy, do so with the highest resolution that your camera allows, will be more crisp in the same print size.
More pixels allows you to crop the photo, for a better framing. If you don’t use it, throw it.
Canon will announce the 60D – single processor, much lower price point with HD video capabilities. This will drive the race at the entry level again for Canon. Stay tuned…… February is just aorund the corner.
No word yet on what will be announced. Expect two different announcement dates. LOL! Maybe the 1st announcement is about what will be announced…
Big Announcements coming from Canon!!!Wohoo!
A series replacement with return of manual controls-hoping for that
i love how everyone posts what they wish would be announced. If that’s the case:
0.5D MkI
MSRP: 50.00 Dollars
50 MP Full Frame sensor
EF and EF-S compatible (sensor adapts to image circle)
10 fps RAW, 20 fps JPG
Full Weather-proof sealing
ISO up to 25600 with film-like grain
Triple Digic V
Full Titanium Alloy Casing
Wireless triggering up to 100 strobes on 4 different channels
Built in wi-fi (we’ll find uses for it)
I’m pretty sure that’s what they’re announcing on the 9th.
Canon 5D MkIII. 5D MkII is flop!!!
Why wait till Feb? Canon is attending the CES 2010 in Jan.
One of the reason that it will not attend the PMA 2010 in Feb (base on this old link http://www.pdngearguide.com/gearguide/content_display/news/e3ife9d9d88fcefbcdcd5df0dd8f5816c54) is that product life cycles are moving must faster.
Seems like Canon couldn’t wait till Feb 2010 to show off it new productsss… =P
“Product life cycles are moving must faster”, this seems to me like including DSLR too. =P
Next gen 5DII, next gen 5DII, next gen 5DII, next gen 5DII, next gen 5DII, next gen 5DII…. =P
hee, hee, hee… I meant much faster. =P
with a 10-500mm 2.0/L IS USM kit lens.
totally. that’s why they can’t keep them in stock!
Dear Charles Bronson, I found in another post something you can clarify your doubts.
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm
Go to Table “Diffraction Limit Calculator”, enter the parameters of the 7D and play with the aperture values, print size, vision distance, etc., then you can see what is the maximum print size without affecting the diffraction limit.
You can see that the diffraction limit is always present, but only becomes visible in big enlargements.
For example, a photo of a Nikon D700 (12.1MP FF) @ f/2.8, enlarged to 35 “, seen at 10 cm., already are visible the effects of diffraction limit.
I hope that will be useful for you.
Sarcasm is trendy..
500D could use sRAW if that could be added with a firmware update. Shooting at normal RAW makes big files.
I’m guessing that one will be the long overdue EF 50mm F/1.4 USM-II as the logical response to Nikons new 50mm F/1.4 (Nikon recently brought out a killer new 70-200 F/2.8, Canon quickly followed suit).
The other will be a new EOS 1Ds Mk-IV with anywhere from 26.6 Mega-pixels (same density as the ID Mk-IV), to as high as 46.6 mega-pixels – same density as the 7D. I would expect such a camera to pick up the pace on frame rates, possibly including 2K or even 6K video. Red’s full frame digital video/still cameras with full frame 36mm x 24mm 24 mega-pixel sensors (all the way up to 6x17cm 251 mega-pixels!)will soon overwhelm Canon and Nikon in the Professional arena with frame rates as high as 120 FPS! With these babies the pro photographer will never miss the perfect shot because he/she captures everything then picks the frames they want to print! They have adapters for both Canon and Nikon glass too! Canon knows it and will be trying to get out in front of it… I hope…